Why are women always liberal?

[frozen_runner]

Which raises the question of is letting women vote a good thing?

As someone earlier in the thread said, women on average are less concerned with freedom and justice than fairness and equity. So you tell me: will women, in aggregate, vote for bigger or smaller government (and thus less freedom) over time?

But I'm starting to think it's not that women shouldn't be able to vote but that people with no stake in the future shouldn't have the vote. No kids, no business or land ownership? No voting.

 

[Antenna7]

As someone earlier in the thread said, women on average are less concerned with freedom and justice than fairness and equity. So you tell me: will women, in aggregate, vote for bigger or smaller government (and thus less freedom) over time?

But I'm starting to think it's not that women shouldn't be able to vote but that people with no stake in the future shouldn't have the vote. No kids, no business or land ownership? No voting.

I suppose you could make the argument that traditionally Men's vote wasn't their personal vote in the past. It was his families vote. He had a responsibility to take on board what was happening in his family and vote accordingly.

Now that Women vote, and the Government largely supplanted the Male position as taking responsibility for them. Women will forever vote for more and more powerful government.

At least thats the theory I just came up with.

 

[frozen_runner]

I suppose you could make the argument that traditionally Men's vote wasn't their personal vote in the past. It was his families vote. He had a responsibility to take on board what was happening in his family and vote accordingly.

Now that Women vote, and the Government largely supplanted the Male position as taking responsibility for them. Women will forever vote for more and more powerful government.

At least thats the theory I just came up with.

The birth control pill has been unbelievably destructive to human society despite its good points and usefulness. What you're talking about is one of the many negative effects downstream of the invention of that technology.

 

[Antenna7]

The birth control pill has been unbelievably destructive to human society despite its good points and usefulness. What you're talking about is one of the many negative effects downstream of the invention of that technology.

 

[Spunt]

My wife is even more racist than me. She called our cat a nigger earlier today.

 

[Space________0101]

Conservative men treat women like second class citizens that's why women are more drawn to liberal politics is a nonsense point, women are more drawn to liberal politics for a multitude of reasons the biggest reason in my opinion are because of abortion rights.

LGBTQ+ rights, minority rights, come second to liberal women no matter how much they virtue signal about it, humans by nature care more about their own self interest and implemented abortion rights benefit women who don't want babies for whatever reason they have for not wanting them.

It has nothing to do with which side is more welcoming to women because liberal men don't treat women any better.

If you speak up about men in dresses going to the same bathroom as you and your daughter, sister or mother you will be insulted and have your life ruined, Liberal men believe women who prostitute themselves are strong and empowered and how more women should sell themselves to own the patriarchy, if you a women don't believe this or disagree with a liberal man you get berated, the city bike karen is also another example, not a single liberal man stood up for her because she is a white karen weaponizing her white tears in order to get the poor black youth killed.

What if you got raped by a black man, what if your children got decapited by an Allah lover? Will he be there for you or call you a racist for calling the cops? What if you go to the bathroom and a strong beautiful trans women flashed their feminine penis to you and you come home to tell your horrible experience to him? Will he defend your honor by beating the shit out of the troon or call you a terf?

Liberal men will never protect you, defend you, or side with you ever because liberal men are like women, they would rather destroy you then side and fight along with you.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

But I'm starting to think it's not that women shouldn't be able to vote but that people with no stake in the future shouldn't have the vote. No kids, no business or land ownership? No voting.

Agreed. If you served in the armed forces, even so much as guarding an ammo depot in the desert for a year, you automatically get to vote unless you're dishonorably discharged.

Own land? Own a business? Have or adopt kids? Voting booth this way, sir or ma'am.

But the fact that some drugged out homeless bum - who the Democrats have been caught on camera herding to vote in buses on multiple occasions - is allowed to decide the fate of anything with the same power of a CEO is batshit insane.

Likewise for some snot-nosed 18 year old with no job, car, or apartment and a Reddit addiction who speedread Das Kapital and thinks he knows better than his parents. Why the FUCK are we allowing you to vote, you little brat?!

 

[Nemui]

It has nothing to do with which side is more welcoming to women because liberal men don't treat women any better.

If you speak up about men in dresses going to the same bathroom as you and your daughter, sister or mother you will be insulted and have your life ruined, Liberal men believe women who prostitute themselves are strong and empowered and how more women should sell themselves to own the patriarchy, if you a women don't believe this or disagree with a liberal man you get berated, the city bike karen is also another example, not a single liberal man stood up for her because she is a white karen weaponizing her white tears in order to get the poor black youth killed.

What if you got raped by a black man, what if your children got decapited by an Allah lover? Will he be there for you or call you a racist for calling the cops? What if you go to the bathroom and a strong beautiful trans women flashed their feminine penis to you and you come home to tell your horrible experience to him? Will he defend your honor by beating the shit out of the troon or call you a terf?

Liberal men will never protect you, defend you, or side with you ever because liberal men are like women, they would rather destroy you then side and fight along with you.

This is just liberal ideology in it's essence. It has nothing to do with males particularly because liberal women defend all this too. If a woman gets raped by nigger she would rather stand on knee and apologize for possible racist comments than think about the damage that has been done to her and punishment for the rapist (or absence of it). Literal cuckoldry.

Why are all the supposed right wing male groups filled with closeted homos then? Like I've seen /pol/ threads where the males there talk about how based Hadrian was for loving boipussy. The Fuentes stuff is like what I would expect out of right wing male zoomers since they drape themselves in homoeroticism despite the "based opinions." Complete cognitive dissonance.

For the same reason so many nerds troon-out these days. Right-wing circles are 99% male and knowing that they will never have a woman without cucking to liberalism they start seeking affection among those close to them. Also, that's incorrect to assume anyone who posts on /pol/ is a right-winger, this place is a cesspitl for trolls and larpers.

 

[Otterly]

Not all of us are.
But the reason is because:
Women are physically weaker than men. We cannot exert power physically. But we also have a drive to power and so we use psychological means to achieve it. Cf: every legend ever of the female persuading the male to do something from Adam and Eve to Delilah. The traits are probably also reinforced by the need to not be killed of the men of the tribe are beaten in skirmishing or war. If you want you and your kids to live you better be pretty, agreeable and compliant or you’ll be joining the men in the pile of bodies and so will your children.
There is little physical threat to women now in the west (with the exception of the usual wife beaters and insane troons) and so women’s worst tendencies (and we have them just like men do) are unchecked by physical strength of men. Fewer women are having children but that need to have a baby remains and so it’s displaced onto ‘poor….’ Whether that minorities or the homeless or trannies. It’s women wanting to be agreeable
Women also benefit temporarily from weaker men. But not long term. So women who do t see long term adopt those policies. It goes;
1. Women are chattel and treated terribly
2. Were are wards and treated variably
3. Women gain rights and are treated well
4 women push for more and emasculate the men
5. The men become useless söy gremlins
6. Women vote in liberal governments to reinforce their wish not to be chattel
7. Mass invasions by immigrants or warfare
8. Women enslaved or killed and back to step one.
Up to pint three and a bit it’s all getting better for women. I don’t want to be chattel. I want rights to property and autonomy of movement, thought and body. Right now we are about point 7. Most women are still cheering it on, and they won’t be when we are all in burkas or invaded by low IQ high violence cultures. Sensible women see the long term and know that strong men working with women, neither as chattel nor emasculated, is strong communities.
We had that in the west, and then it all went to hell, in a move that was deliberately engineered.

 

[God of Nothing]

Sensible women see the long term and know that strong men working with women, neither as chattel nor emasculated, is strong communities.

When did we have this? It was just a nosedive after.

 

[Otterly]

When did we have this? It was just a nosedive after.

I’d say seventies to nineties. It’s gone off the cliff really the last 15y or so

 

[God of Nothing]

I’d say seventies to nineties. It’s gone off the cliff really the last 15y or so

Can you really call it a strong community if it barely lasted 20-30 years? The 1970s are when the divorce rate turned to the coin flip we know it to be today, at least in the States. This means the first generation to have equality among the sexes, the baby boomers, split right when they could. And your statements indicate that most women aren't sensible since we're on point 7.
Does your solution truly exist?

 

[Otterly]

Does your solution truly exist?

It’s an ideal. Maybe it doesn’t. Which is an uncomfortable thought. It felt OK for a while.

This means the first generation to have equality among the sexes, the baby boomers, split right when they could.

So here’s another uncomfortable thought; what’s best for society as a whole is unbearable for a lot of individuals. Those boomers divorced. Some will have been in miserable unions. Some will have been beaten up and desperate to get out or emotionally abused. Some will have just wanted to shag around and now could.
How do we cope with that? The last twenty years have shown me why societies kept gays in the closet. Is that bad for decent individual gays? Yeah it is, at the same time society now is falling into a pit of degeneracy that’s damaging us. I’m a woman - do I want to be chattel? No I certainly don’t. Can I see why societies kept women on a tight rein? Yeah I can. Could we fix a lot of the issues we have in society if we made individuals lose rights ? Probably yes.
I dont know what the answers are. What’s good for individuals isn’t always good for society. When was the real stable sweet spot? Pre Edwardian England? Then we had WW1 and that was the start of the death of europe. Perhaps human society doesn’t do steady state ‘great’ but cycles through periods of ups and downs.

 

[God of Nothing]

It’s an ideal. Maybe it doesn’t. Which is an uncomfortable thought. It felt OK for a while.

So here’s another uncomfortable thought; what’s best for society as a whole is unbearable for a lot of individuals. Those boomers divorced. Some will have been in miserable unions. Some will have been beaten up and desperate to get out or emotionally abused. Some will have just wanted to shag around and now could.
How do we cope with that? The last twenty years have shown me why societies kept gays in the closet. Is that bad for decent individual gays? Yeah it is, at the same time society now is falling into a pit of degeneracy that’s damaging us. I’m a woman - do I want to be chattel? No I certainly don’t. Can I see why societies kept women on a tight rein? Yeah I can. Could we fix a lot of the issues we have in society if we made individuals lose rights ? Probably yes.
I dont know what the answers are. What’s good for individuals isn’t always good for society. When was the real stable sweet spot? Pre Edwardian England? Then we had WW1 and that was the start of the death of europe. Perhaps human society doesn’t do steady state ‘great’ but cycles through periods of ups and downs.

A problem lies in the assumption people are miserable when they have less rights. If anything, recent years have proven people are far more miserable and unproductive when given options. We allow the mentally ill, uninformed, and non-participants a voice in society. People are the society, not the other way around. It's this presumption that we are free that chains us to the decline. All we did was tie a noose around our neck for the worst in society to tighten and loosen. Unironically, we should've never given everyone the right to vote. It was tied to property for a reason.

 

[The Ugly One]

I suppose you could make the argument that traditionally Men's vote wasn't their personal vote in the past. It was his families vote. He had a responsibility to take on board what was happening in his family and vote accordingly.

Now that Women vote, and the Government largely supplanted the Male position as taking responsibility for them. Women will forever vote for more and more powerful government.

At least thats the theory I just came up with.

Women also vote for greater and greater sexual liberation because they instinctively recoil at the idea that men should judge women's behavior in any way whatsoever.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

We had that in the west, and then it all went to hell, in a move that was deliberately engineered.

The first step was giving Women rights. The next step is to give Children rights. Then the destruction of the family model is complete.

 

[Male Idiot]

You all never had to face a fearsome and respectworthy wrath of a soviet made babushka.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

Women were created by Nature/God with the sole purpose of spreading their legs, submitting and getting fucked, which coincidentally is what the jews expect from the entire human species

 

[StayMad]

A lot of virgin neckbeard rage in here. lol

 

[God of Nothing]

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The first step was giving Women rights. The next step is to give Children rights. Then the destruction of the family model is complete.

They have been pushing for pedophilia super fucking hard lately.
hilariously, this was brought up over a century back