Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Putin is doubling down, I was so sure he was going to deliver the MOD in silver platter to the Wagner, but no, war will it be. He doesn't look well, it seems the only thing left is how will he die or by which hand. During this war I have found myself firmly on the Ukrainian side but seeing this man I once admired brought so low by his own blindness and greed doesn't feel nice.

He was never anything other than an opportunistic glowie little fuck motivated by greed. But I'm glad you can finally see him for what he is.

 

[Corette]

Phew.
For a second I was worried that cooler heads would prevail and Wagner might get change to reorganize Russian army.

 

[NSJAP]

Cope thread status?

 

[In the Dollhouse]

He was never anything other than an opportunistic glowie little fuck motivated by greed. But I'm glad you can finally see him for what he is.

Yes, his personal image propaganda worked on me, sorry to say.

 

[RodgerDodger]

This is one dude

could you post some source on that?
Would be nice to look over.

Here's one I've been following. He's a pretty good vlogger about what is going on in Russia itself for the past year+. Neither Vatnick nor hardcore Holhol. He's talking about how much Russia's Transportation Network is now fucked with Wagner sitting on one of the main Highways to the Caucasus and the Baltic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIn41Gl6pVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbyY2zSsDI&t=391s

 

[draggs]

Wagner now claims it has control of Voronezh. 24 hours and Wagner controls two large cities on the main highway from the south to Moscow, and is halfway to the Kremlin looks like 3 days is back on the menu boys

With Chimputin's speech, civil war it is. Should've known with the way vatniggers and other faggots talk about muh civil war in Murica so much that Russia would have one first

That retarded monke in the Kremlin better hope Chef's claims of lots of regular army taking his side isn't true. He can't do anything but lose in Ukraine if Wagner isn't taken out quick

That little speech was also low energy af despite his looking visibly pissed. Monke looks tired and you can see the skull through his face now. Tired old monke, how sad

 

[World in Scarlet]

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Don't worry, it's just a feint and Ukraine will fall for it and do something foolish. (rybar posted that mental gymnastics when it was just telegram voice clips).

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

 

[RodgerDodger]

People think that the MoD was serious about merging Wagner into the regular army and Prigozhin saw an open window of opportunity in his future, so he went all in. If he expected to be killed he might as well stage a false flag attack and go for the throat of his enemies.

Do not think for a minute that Prigozhin does not have some escape plan that ends with him sitting atop his African Gold and Diamond mines. It's just he feels (possibly not wrongly) that he is the one in the position of strength in this confrontation. As someone pointed out Peiroghi has been the Russian Media equivalent to Zelinsky. On the front lines. always being seen. Whereas Count Vlad de Puttie looks unhealthy and is rarely seen *except when he is seen in two places at the same time because Russian Magic!

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Now's the time for the MoD to blow a nuclear plant if he's going to head toward Moscow.

Someone(Perun?) mentioned there is a military group that defends Moscow that is much better armed and trained. Wouldn't Prigozhin have difficulty fighting them?

 

[Night Crawler]

So I have heard talk that the Russians are engaged in some kind of civil war over there with the Wagner forces are now attacking Russians. Is this shit true? If it I am sure the Ukrainians are happy as pigs in shit. lol

This could be the break they were looking for. Depends on how chaotic it is though. I will have to watch more about this. I haven't been paying attention much because there wasn't a whole lot going on. Guess I will have to start paying attention again.

I did watch an interesting video about the many ways Crimea has been captured in the past and how Ukraine could do it the same way. It would be a total embarrassment for Russia to have to fight Wagner parts of it's own military and have Ukraine taking Crimea back as well. Putin would have a really bad day.

This is what happened with Russia in WW1. They got involved in a war. They lost and the pissed of soldiers went back to Russia and joined in with the Communists. I said this could possibly happen early on. I said it was one of the way this could play out. It did happen in the past.

Regardless of whatever the Wagner PMC does, Ukraine has lost a lot of territory and the billions it's getting in weapons and aid are straining everyone. The US no longer has the manufacturing power to give them the ammunition they need, and if word on the street is true, Europe is effectively without an arsenal if it keeps up with this.

The Twittersphere is loaded with Ukraine supporters desperate for a break, and they're agitating at this. Ukraine itself wants to launch a counteroffensive because of the internal Russian division, so we'll see how that works out like the first one.

This Vatnigger cope has been posted before. The Americans are no where near running out of anything. If anyone is running out it has to be the Russians. They are the ones shipping T-62's and T-55's to a warzone in 2023 while LARPing as a capable world power. Notice I said LARPing. I know vatniggers don't like the state of the West but the US doesn't spend $800 billion dollars a year on it's military for nothing. We don't have a universal healthcare for a reason. You can thing what you want about US ZOG but it does keep it's military up and running. I can't say the same thing for the Russian ZOG.

I can't make too many comments about Europe either because I don't know the exact situation there. But I do know the Western European militaries have been in decline for a while. Especially the UK and Germany. I don't think the others have much. During the cold war the European nations in NATO were only a speedbump. They were supposed to slow the Soviets down long enough for the US to get there in bigger numbers than they already were. But even then I doubt Europe is running out. Not at the levels vatniggers claim.

 

[WhiteNight]

Cynical though it may be, I see this as the best possible outcome. Putin could have tried to appease or compromise with Chef, but he went straight to calling it treason.

Now there's no turning back for Prigozhin, it's win or die for him, so this is outright civil war, which means tying up Russia's combat power.

Putin and Prigozhin:

 

[Something Awful]

What I have heard swirling, and from his own account, is the wagner position he was staying at got hit by some missiles and then strafed by a gunship. That's pretty hand forcing.

I'm not sure if it was posted before, but this is the video of the aftermath of the supposed missile strike:

(Telegram link if Tor is too slow)

And skeptical commentary from Meduza:

The video footage posted by Prigozhin earlier on June 23 that reportedly shows the aftermath of a Russian rocket strike on a Wagner rear camp is almost certainly staged. Here’s why:

• Whoever is filming doesn’t run away from the explosion, as you would expect if they feared more artillery or rocket strikes, but moves toward it.
• The people speaking off camera, before they could have gotten any real details about the incident, come to the conclusion that the Ukrainian military “can’t get at us” and that only their own “allies” could have carried out the strike.
• There’s no visible crater in any of the posted footage, or any dirt that a normal explosion would gave scattered. The surrounding vegetation and trees appear essentially unharmed, which rules out a rocket that exploded in the air. Most likely, the explosion was caused by a hand grenade going off under a tent or in one of the camp’s numerous structures.
• One part of the footage shows two fires burning in a dugout, but the fresh cover of leaves in the dugout is undamaged, and there are no visible artillery casings around.
• Prigozhin reported that the strike left a large number of victims, but the footage doesn’t show any of them. One clip shows part of a human body, but the color of the dried blood on it suggests that the person died much earlier than when the alleged strike took place.

 

[draggs]

Holy shit there's so many videos on telegram and Twitter of convoys going north up the highways in broad daylight, Grad launchers, tonks, APCs, military trucks, civilian vehicles, Wagner infantry strolling around Voronezh, not a concern in the world, no one trying to stop them at all. Huge juicy targets that would get utterly annihilated from the air the way they are taking absolutely zero precautions and they're getting away with it

Can't even call it a thunder run, there's no opposition for them to rush past guns blazing. More like a nice morning commute

Chimputin what doing?

 

[WhiteNight]

Wagner now claims it has control of Voronezh. 24 hours and Wagner controls two large cities on the main highway from the south to Moscow,

I have seen reports of Wagner taking parts of Voronezh oblast, but do we know they have taken Voronezh city (which is in the northern part of the oblast)?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Word has it that after Putin sided with his generals and called Prikolzhin a rebel scum, locals of everywhere came out against Wagner, telling them to idi nahui.
I'd post vids, but I'm too stupid to use Tor properly.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Tuvinian degenerate and Pupa could not even cope with the [Ukrainians]. How can they compete with the Wagner PMC. When the Tuvinian will be taken out of his office in handcuffs, he will probably say that up to 200 musicians were destroyed.

source: Wagner

The trigger of the Civil War was pulled by Pupa. Instead of sending one or two degenerates to retirement, he gave the order to neutralize Russia's most combat-ready unit. The life of one or two traitors was put above 25,000 heroes. Who is the evil in this conflict is already obvious. The victory will be for the Wagner PMC.

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[Chandelier]

This Vatnigger cope has been posted before. The Americans are no where near running out of anything. If anyone is running out it has to be the Russians. They are the ones shipping T-62's and T-55's to a warzone in 2023 while LARPing as a capable world power. Notice I said LARPing. I know vatniggers don't like the state of the West but the US doesn't spend $800 billion dollars a year on it's military for nothing. We don't have a universal healthcare for a reason. You can thing what you want about US ZOG but it does keep it's military up and running. I can't say the same thing for the Russian ZOG.

It's been posted before and has been a matter of contention that the manufacturing power of the US is nowhere near what it once was. The shit they produced is wasted in a week; compared that to Vietnam, where just as much could be used in a week and the ammo kept coming. Nowadays it's bitching about recruitment and lowering standards to let fatties in because there aren't enough white males. But hey, pregnant flight suits! Send 'em more money. Hell, the MIC is going to rake in billions from this civil war if it ends up becoming one.

Maybe this time it'll be a fight between toilet plungers and shovels.

EDIT: lmao holy shit Wagner is now saying on its telegram it's going after Putler

Here we go, boys.

 

[Pork Packer]

Hey guys I'm back! been stuck at work last couple of week so haven't been able to report in

What did I miss?

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Saw some vid of a grandad vatnik in Rostov confronting wagnerites and telling them that they should be ashamed, asking what they're doing there and telling them that they're supposed to protect the motherland
It probably took all their discipline not to shoot this old fuck in the face, knowing they've likely been in some deep shit in Ukraine

Man, this is all kinds of fun