US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[God of Nothing]

On one hand I feel you, on the other... The CIA literally killed his dad. RFK either is the ultimate fed, or a man that has been planning this for decades, take your pick, because both sound crazy saying it out loud.

The only way he turns out natural or based is he's going along with it planning to Count of Monte Cristo everyone he knows/thinks was involved.

 

[LurkTrawl]

RFK is definitely a plant of some kind. This isn't natural at all. Joe Rogan and co are nothing but controlled opposition. He's being astroturfed as an outsider despite being from one of the most famous political dynasties in the world. What a fucking joke.
yes, i am potentially being a schizo on this subject but can you honestly believe this man gives a shit about politics or the country?

I listen to a number of podcasts including Rogan and a few other leftie types ranging from him being mid-left to that Brett Weinstein guy who's an out and out progressive.

I mention those two in particular because they're not "controlled opposition" so much as they are just people for whom no amount of contradictory evidence of the shit they believe will get them to shake off their mental conditioning.

Reminder, I am someone who identifies at this point absolutely not as pro-Trump but as anti-establishment. I don't necessarily think Trump is a great candidate or whatever the fuck, I just despise the machine that wants to keep him out at all costs. I say this so that I don't get falsely accused for the millionth time of being one of his cultists for what I'm about to say:

They are just flatly put, retards. Retards for whom Blonald Blumph is an unthinkable choice due to the same MSM that sold them a bunch of bullshit on covid having successfully drilled into their heads that El Naranja is just a bad, bad man who is just absolutely unfit for anything. These are the types who %100 either didn't vote at all or voted Biden (and now lie about it) because of their conditioning to be receptive to establishment media narratives even passively.

But, they recognize the fact that what a lot of americans want is an outsider, so they're latching onto this nigger like a liferaft in the hopes that they can peel people off of the Trump support base. Frankly I'm sure the conscious reasoning these people have for wanting Kennedy over Trump varies, and from some of them it's flatly said - Weinstein for instance has openly stated that he wants Kennedy because he delusionally believes that the system isn't broken and we just need an outsider president.

If that sounds like underpants gnome logic, that's because it fucking is, these retards are programmed to believe in the system, and Trump is a legitimate (somehow, apparently) threat to that system in some way that I'm sure is as vague to them as anyone else, and they seriously think all problems will be solved if literally anyone other than Trump who checks the right boxes gets in, instead of him.

TL;DR they're not controlled opposition so much as they're just one step above an NPC. These often are also the types who want "unity" or espouse the retarded "we need to come together on what we agree on!" bullshit unironically not cognizant whatsoever of the fact that such "unity" is and always has been a facade to more easily enable politicians to work together to fuck all of us.

On one hand I feel you, on the other... The CIA literally killed his dad. RFK either is the ultimate fed, or a man that has been planning this for decades, take your pick, because both sound crazy saying it out loud.

He's a Kennedy. He'd videotape himself licking his own mother's asshole to be allowed into the Oval Office.

The Kennedys are not to be trusted. Any of them. I'd trust a fucking Bush family member before I'd trust a fucking Kennedy.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The only way he turns out natural or based is he's going along with it planning to Count of Monte Cristo everyone he knows/thinks was involved.

I mean i've read that book, if he really is planning on revenge and has names and a plan... good lord. Edmond Dantes eat your heart out.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

They are just flatly put, retards. Retards for whom Blonald Blumph is an unthinkable choice due to the same MSM that sold them a bunch of bullshit on covid having successfully drilled into their heads that El Naranja is just a bad, bad man who is just absolutely unfit for anything. These are the types who %100 either didn't vote at all or voted Biden (and now lie about it) because of their conditioning to be receptive to establishment media narratives even passively.

Pretty much. There is no reason not to just vote Trump if you want a outsider. They can try and push RFK to win the D nomination but they know it isn't gonna happen and when Dementia Joe is put forth they can vote Trump with a clean conscience. But that would require they actually be honest about it. Which they aren't.

Reminds me of that one Sam Harris dude who unironically said that "Hunter Biden could have had pictures of dead kids on that laptop it didn't matter we had to take Trump out" and when called out on how fucking insane it was immediately tried to backtrack and whatabout and explain that no dude Blonald Drumpf really is that bad he didn't mean it even if he literally just said it.

These are people who LARP as "critical independent centrist thinkers" who simply just regurgitate pre-approved MSM talking points that fool them into thinking they are in any way different from regular niggercattle. They are EXACTLY the sort of people that fall for fake "dissent" like r/conspiracy I mentioned earlier.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The Kennedys are not to be trusted. Any of them. I'd trust a fucking Bush family member before I'd trust a fucking Kennedy.

Brother, we do not need twenty more years in Afganastan, fuck no. At least old man Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis like a badass WITHOUT starting a war. Jeb would just be RINO biden, completely inept and ready to crater us into the ground at mach 6

 

[God of Nothing]

Brother, we do not need twenty more years in Afganastan, fuck no. At least old man Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis like a badass WITHOUT starting a war. Jeb would just be RINO biden, completely inept and ready to crater us into the ground at mach 6

you give kennedy too much credit for a situation he was actually responsible for

 

[WelperHelper99]

you give kennedy too much credit for a situation he was actually responsible for

We started that shit AND made the soviets blink first. Motherfucker was ready to press the big red button unlike that pussy Truman should have done in Korea. That's a absolute win. Total commie humiliation.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Brother, we do not need twenty more years in Afganastan, fuck no. At least old man Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis like a badass WITHOUT starting a war. Jeb would just be RINO biden, completely inept and ready to crater us into the ground at mach 6

We started that shit AND made the soviets blink first. Motherfucker was ready to press the big red button unlike that pussy Truman should have done in Korea. That's a absolute win. Total commie humiliation.

People like you are the reason I wouldn't be sad to have Kennedy somehow get the presidency.

The spiteful glee I would take in seeing the fleece being ripped off of your eyes like stapled duct-tape as he just continues doing what Biden is doing right now would be worth it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

RFK is definitely a plant of some kind. This isn't natural at all. Joe Rogan and co are nothing but controlled opposition. He's being astroturfed as an outsider despite being from one of the most famous political dynasties in the world. What a fucking joke.
yes, i am potentially being a schizo on this subject but can you honestly believe this man gives a shit about politics or the country?

This plant shit is brought up for everyone not named Donald Trump. We could have a whole garden at this point.

 

[WelperHelper99]

People like you are the reason I wouldn't be sad to have Kennedy somehow get the presidency.

The spiteful glee I would take in seeing the fleece being ripped off of your eyes like stapled duct-tape as he just continues doing what Biden is doing right now would be worth it.

You are a cynic that would rather see it all burn down. I'm weighing my options. Give me Trump, if not, i'd take Kennedy as a spare if nothing else. What else is there to be done? Biden is sending us to hell already, and the media is turning on him, so if i HAD to choose a dem, it'd be Kennedy. Would he be the same shit? Possibly, but maybe not.

Let me make my politics clear: I am a American. I want to return to the one world superpower where the rest bowed down to us. Trump gave us that for a brief moment. I remember 2019, best damn year of my fucking life. Economy roaring, North Korea and little Kimmy learning their place on the totem pole, graduated high school, Jontron was making flex seal memes, life was fucking great. And I will do what it takes to get back to that. That is how life SHOULD BE. I can either be bitter and spiteful about everything like you, or actually try to make something with the two cards in my hand.

 

[Ass Gazer]

We started that shit AND made the soviets blink first. Motherfucker was ready to press the big red button unlike that pussy Truman should have done in Korea. That's a absolute win. Total commie humiliation.

USA puts nukes in Turkey aimed at USSR.
In retaliation USSR puts nukes in Cuba aimed at USA.
USA secretly agrees to remove nukes from Turkey.
USSR removes nukes from Cuba.

Seems like more of a win for the USSR to me. But maybe I just don't have the whole story.

 

[WelperHelper99]

USA puts nukes in Turkey aimed at USSR.
In retaliation USSR puts nukes in Cuba aimed at USA.
USA secretly agrees to remove nukes from Turkey.
USSR removes nukes from Cuba.

Seems like more of a win for the USSR to me. But maybe I just don't have the whole story.

You missed the part in the middle where we were about to nuke their ass BEFORE they came groveling, begging not to get blasted off the earth. We won.

 

[God of Nothing]

This plant shit is brought up for everyone not named Donald Trump. We could have a whole garden at this point.

right
this is totally natural
he's only from a political dynasty

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

This plant shit is brought up for everyone not named Donald Trump. We could have a whole garden at this point.

We wouldn't be rallying around Trump if he weren't still, to this day, making the establishment piss its pants just for the mere fact that he exists.

 

[LurkTrawl]

You are a cynic that would rather see it all burn down.

I can either be bitter and spiteful about everything like you, or actually try to make something with the two cards in my hand.

Uh-huh.

Not for nothing as I'll cop to being a cynic, and I'm definitely a spiteful asshole, but I don't fall into the category of someone who "wants to burn it all down". Recognizing the state of the system we live in, the various actors in it, and the likely outcomes is not some form of nihilism wherein I yearn to see everything fall apart in some post-apocalyptic manner.

When I say I would be happy if Kennedy, or DeSantis, were to win to disabuse the gullible american public at large who fall for these establishmentarian charlatans of their doe-eyed notions that we can somehow "restore america" or whatever the fuck, it's because through that I see a hope that with such an outcome, folks like you would maybe finally learn that the assholes you're being told to pick from aren't ever going to magically turn back the clock and reset america to a status that never existed, and that voting for such assholes time and again is a part of how we got here.

Let me make my politics clear: I am a American. I want to return to the one world superpower where the rest bowed down to us. Trump gave us that for a brief moment. I remember 2019, best damn year of my fucking life. Economy roaring, North Korea and little Kimmy learning their place on the totem pole, graduated high school, Jontron was making flex seal memes, life was fucking great. And I will do what it takes to get back to that.

Nobody, and nothing, at this point will do that for you or anyone else. Trump got into office in 2016 and wasn't able to do it for the same reason that a single presidential election now wouldn't be capable of doing that. Fixing this shit needed to happen decades before you or even I were born, what we're living through right now is a situation in which the only possible outcomes were set in stone before the turn of the millenium.

I want Trump to get into office for the simple fact that it would piss off royally all of the right people. He can't fix shit any more than you or I can, and frankly Kennedy would accomplish about as much as I want Trump to even if it'd be in an alternative manner.

If you want to call all of that an attitude of "burning it to the ground", or "cynicism", "spite", whatever, cool. But to be clear I'd love if tomorrow shit dialed back to the same hazy, halcyon america you profess to want as well. I just recognize that it's an impossibility and that the people propped up right now are no fucking different than their predecessors. With Kennedy in particular I just find it outlandish, and would find it funny if it weren't so mind-bogglingly idiotic, that anyone would think a man from the OG corrupt political dynasty is going to somehow be as much of a productive force as someone like Trump.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I want Trump to get into office for the simple fact that it would piss off royally all of the right people. He can't fix shit any more than you or I can, and frankly Kennedy would accomplish about as much as I want Trump to even if it'd be in an alternative manner.

in other words:

"Voting for Donald Trump will be the biggest fuck you in American history. And it will feel good." - Michael Moore, 2016

 

[WelperHelper99]

Nobody, and nothing, at this point will do that for you or anyone else. Trump got into office in 2016 and wasn't able to do it for the same reason that a single presidential election now wouldn't be capable of doing that. Fixing this shit needed to happen decades before you or even I were born, what we're living through right now is a situation in which the only possible outcomes were set in stone before the turn of the millenium.

I want Trump to get into office for the simple fact that it would piss off royally all of the right people. He can't fix shit any more than you or I can, and frankly Kennedy would accomplish about as much as I want Trump to even if it'd be in an alternative manner.

If you want to call all of that an attitude of "burning it to the ground", or "cynicism", "spite", whatever, cool. But to be clear I'd love if tomorrow shit dialed back to the same hazy, halcyon america you profess to want as well. I just recognize that it's an impossibility and that the people propped up right now are no fucking different than their predecessors. With Kennedy in particular I just find it outlandish, and would find it funny if it weren't so mind-bogglingly idiotic, that anyone would think a man from the OG corrupt political dynasty is going to somehow be as much of a productive force as someone like Trump.

But Trump did. Who the hell is seriously still talking about the Bush family other than making fun of Jeb? I fucking would love trump back. He was severely hampered by the establishment, but cultrually, he had a massive impact. The democrats fear his very name. The change is happening. We can't go back decades but we can start now. You want everything to change instantly. Not happening. Whoever put that into your head was a liar. Change takes generations, water flowing over rocks, turning a trickle into a river. I see a future for my home. And that is what this land is, my home. And I will not watch it burn. You have the bum mindset where you'll just run when the going gets tough. Run where? Europe? Those bastards go to war every 20 years or so, good luck.

As for Kennedy, he's a wild card in my eyes. I don't want him to win. I'd take him over biden because at least the man can hold a press conference. And while he could, COULD, be a plant... there is a chance, however slight, this is some grand chessmaster revenge plot on the people that got his father killed. Now that I can sympathise with.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

USA puts nukes in Turkey aimed at USSR.
In retaliation USSR puts nukes in Cuba aimed at USA.
USA secretly agrees to remove nukes from Turkey.
USSR removes nukes from Cuba.

Seems like more of a win for the USSR to me. But maybe I just don't have the whole story.

We didn't remove the nukes from Turkey.

We removed the (then) obsolete Jupiter system. We still have nukes in Turkey.

Source: US Air Force and US Army, Turkey.

 

[Kiwi Farms Lurker]

Yeah I just checked it and anything that isn't "he was joking calm down guys" is being downvoted to hell lmao

A bunch of subs have locked posts about the topic and deleted every comment that isn't worshipfully pro-Biden.

Imagine r*ddit still being a thing, sad!

 

[God of Nothing]

in other words:

"Voting for Donald Trump will be the biggest fuck you in American history. And it will feel good." - Michael Moore, 2016

I actually wonder how things are going to go after he serves his second term. He's the symptom of everyone's building resentment towards the Uniparty. One hell of an outlet too as everything around us turns to shit. The bread and circuses are going away. I know there'll be a few faggots going "You won't do anything" but you know some people will. What do you think all the school shootings are a result of? They just happen? It's from resentment and instability from shitty modern life on an underdeveloped brain. It just hasn't reached a point where it affects developed ones trained not to do that shit.