Science ‘Rather Eat My Shoe’: Nutritionist Explains The Issues With Lab-Grown Meat - “I’d rather eat my shoe than lab-grown meat,” Rodgers told the Post. “McDonald’s is still better because the meat is a better option for vitamins,” she added later.

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A nutritionist is warning of the lack of public information available on lab-grown meat, going as far as to say she’d rather eat her shoe than meat grown in a lab.

Last week, the United States Department of Agriculture announced it approved the sale of “lab-grown” meat for commercial sale. In an interview with the New York Post, Diana Rodgers, a registered dietitian and author of “Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat,” warned of the unknowns regarding lab-grown meat and advocated sticking to the natural form of meats and food.

“I’d rather eat my shoe than lab-grown meat,” Rodgers told the Post. “McDonald’s is still better because the meat is a better option for vitamins,” she added later.

Two California companies, Good Meat and Upside Foods, are now approved to sell chicken created from animal cells in the United States. The U.S. is just the second country in the world — after Singapore — to allow the commercial sale of lab-grown meat, which is also referred to as “cultured” and “cell-cultivated” meat.

Rodgers told the Post that she is concerned about a lack of publicly-available nutritional information regarding lab-grown meat. When asked whether lab-grown meat was healthy or not, Rodgers said, “We just don’t know.”

“I have yet to see a life cycle assessment on the production of it,” she said. “We don’t have any public data.”

According to Good Meat, its lab-grown meat is made from the cells of chickens, salt, and a base of soy and wheat. They were reportedly unable to provide the Post with a nutritional label because, as of now, the product will only be served in restaurants, not grocery stores. Nevertheless, the company said its product was protein-rich, had “essential amino acids,” and was antibiotic-free.

“The specific nutrition profile varies for each of our consumer products,” a Good Meat spokesman told the Post. “We use unmodified (non-GMO) chicken cells, which occur naturally in animals.”

Similarly, Upside Foods told the outlet that their product was real meat that could be digested the same way as traditional meat, and sent the outlet a document detailing how the product was made.

Rodgers argued that lab-grown meat is not the same as eating traditional meat. “They’re taking mono-crop plant sources, taking them into a factory and using high-energy processes to convert them into meat,” she said.

The FDA had already given the green light for lab-grown meat for the two companies, and the approval by the USDA means it can now be sold commercially, though the companies will not be bringing it to grocery stores yet due to high production costs. The product will reportedly cost upwards of $20 per pound when it comes to stores.

In March, Italy moved to ban the sale of lab-grown meat to protect its food heritage, according to the BBC. The companies argue that lab-grown meat is a more environmentally sustainable option than animals from farms and ranches, despite a preprint study published in May, which hasn’t been peer-reviewed, that found lab-grown meat may actually be worse for the environment than regular meat.

The product, which is not vegetarian, is cultivated from animal cells, which are incubated and grown into masses of meat in steel tanks, then cut and made to look like traditional meat, Fox Business reports. Lab-grown meat is not the same as plant-based “meat” products, such as Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat.
 
and a base of soy and wheat
Then it's not meat. This is some glorified mash of chicken, soy, and wheat, not actually artificial chicken. This is only slightly more meat than the garbage so-called plant-based "meat" (a term which should be illegal because it's false advertising). This shouldn't even be in the human food chain, at least not without being properly labeled. This is probably good to feed to cats, dogs, pigs, etc. though. Probably. But hey, we live in the post-vaxx world, where it's okay for corporations to rush out dangerous products where the risks are poorly known to the public on pain of banishment from society. What's a bit of artificial meat compared to that?

It's too bad. I like the idea of actual artificial meat which should be totally possible, but it appears we're still far from it. It's going to be necessary to secure the food supplies since we're nearing many bottlenecks in expanding production of meat, yet the population isn't dropping anytime soon.
 
There was a good article in the sub thread about this phenomenon, where everything is Zuckerbergian, rushing and breaking things, as a corporate mantra, rather than slowing down and figuring things out. That shit might work in tech (it doesn't even work there) but is criminally dangerous when applied to this.

We don't know what sort of problems this will cause. Factory-raised meat has a very clear production chain and is very open and heavily regulated, both for animal cruelty and health reasons. This shit is hidden behind 'proprietary' garbage that doesn't see the light of day, so who knows what the fuck they're doing. Everything they say in the article is marketing corpo speak. 'Unmodified (Non-GMO)' like it actually fucking matters when you're obviously genetically modifying them to make them replicate outside of normal conditions. Its like its marketing points were generated by a fucking AI.

Meat and poultry have intense scrutiny, hundreds of years behind them and mountains upon mountains of research papers on them. There's absolutely 0 reason to make this shit at what, $20 a fucking pound? And its got fucking soy and wheat as goddamn filler, clearly. So how much actually lab grown 'meat' is even in this shit is debatable as well. The fucking corpo faggots can't even say and don't say because 'the nutrional profile is different'. Meaning these dumb cunts don't even have a flagship product.

Shocker, retarded tech-bro companies produce nothing, have no flagship and meaningless corporate buzzwords to try and get investors to buy them. Holy god, venture captalists need to fucking lose all their money because they're too fucking retarded to have it.

This has absolutely no purpose. It is a product for rich, wealthy white libs who are too fucking pussy to eat real meat. It has no market. It is not cheaper than real meat, not cheaper than fucking any food. It literally has no point to exist and they're going to rush to market. God, people are stupid.
 
This has absolutely no purpose.
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It is a product for rich, wealthy white libs who are too fucking pussy to eat real meat.
It's a product for the plebs. The rich will eat what they want to eat.
It has no market.
They will make a market.
It is not cheaper than real meat, not cheaper than fucking any food.
It won't be when real meat is banned for not being "environmentally friendly",
It literally has no point to exist and they're going to rush to market.
They're going to rush it to market and demand for it to be a mandated option (then the default, then the only thing available) in schools, hospitals, prisons, government workplaces, etc, force it on private companies with pogroms. They they'll assemble their own private army and march on Washington. Food catering is a ridiculously profitable grift.
God, people are stupid.
God, people are evil.
 
We use unmodified (non-GMO) chicken cells
This is a red flag. Use GMOs if there's a good reason to use GMOs, otherwise its reverse fearmongering.

This has absolutely no purpose. It is a product for rich, wealthy white libs who are too fucking pussy to eat real meat. It has no market. It is not cheaper than real meat, not cheaper than fucking any food. It literally has no point to exist and they're going to rush to market. God, people are stupid.
Can it really be called goyslop as some are quick to do, if it can't even beat the price of high quality meat? It's premium slop.

We won't hear much about these companies for long if they can't eventually produce a product that is cheaper than tradmeat. That or tradmeat prices have to be forced up 300% so that lab-grown meat mixed with fillers can compete with it.
 
The product will reportedly cost upwards of $20 per pound when it comes to stores.
Cost being a major stopping point shouldn't be unexpected when you're competing with an industry that is literally prehistoric and has been evolving for most of that time to create increased efficiency.

The thing that has really bothered me about the lab-grown meat subject has always been the decision to go after specifically meat. Why haven't I heard of lab-grown ivory? Where is the lab-grown rhino horn? Maybe some lab-grown shark fins? For your lubrication needs: Lab-grown whale oil! There are plenty of animal parts other than meat that have high value. For early development of your industry, maybe go after the expensive low quantity stuff before going after the bulk.
 
Cost being a major stopping point shouldn't be unexpected when you're competing with an industry that is literally prehistoric and has been evolving for most of that time to create increased efficiency.

The thing that has really bothered me about the lab-grown meat subject has always been the decision to go after specifically meat. Why haven't I heard of lab-grown ivory? Where is the lab-grown rhino horn? Maybe some lab-grown shark fins? For your lubrication needs: Lab-grown whale oil! There are plenty of animal parts other than meat that have high value. For early development of your industry, maybe go after the expensive low quantity stuff before going after the bulk.
They probably don't want a second "industrial diamond" event again.
 
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It's a product for the plebs. The rich will eat what they want to eat.

They will make a market.

It won't be when real meat is banned for not being "environmentally friendly",

They're going to rush it to market and demand for it to be a mandated option (then the default, then the only thing available) in schools, hospitals, prisons, government workplaces, etc, force it on private companies with pogroms. They they'll assemble their own private army and march on Washington. Food catering is a ridiculously profitable grift.

God, people are evil.
All this is schizophrenia, bat-shit insane ramblings with nothing based in reality.

Red meat and real meat will not be banned without literal guns to people's heads. This is batshit retarded Q-anon bullshit. It is an industry worth $215 billion dollars, with over $40 billion in exports. I guess they'll just accept that, even though the cattle industry has literally killed people for fucking with it before. They'll totally reasonably allow themselves to be banned. Makes sense.

Do you have any idea how tight those things are run? $20 per pound is fucking insane. And that's their cost, not the cost they're selling at. Filet Mignon is $20-25 per pound. Nobody is going to pay for lab grown slop that is barely even lab grown because my bet is its a fucking microscopic particle surrounded by wheat and soy filler because they can't get any product in spec. Its not any different from the impossible burger except with the 'lab grown' gimmick. It is simply not profitable. At all. You have absolutely no concept of how things work. This isn't the fucking defense industry where contractors can get away with $50k toilets because the government is tossing around trillions of dollars. All of those things are run at razor-thin margins to the lowest bidder. The appeal is that its extremely cheap, nutrious and abundant. This is none of those things.

And they are certainly not going for 'slop':

Upside and Good Meat will start small: Upside estimates that in a few weeks, it will begin selling its chicken filet at Bar Crenn, a high-end restaurant in San Francisco run by three-Michelin-star chef Dominique Crenn, where meals run $300 a pop. Good Meat will launch at a restaurant by chef José Andrés in Washington, DC. Like conventional meat producers, both companies will have USDA inspectors oversee their processing before they can start selling to consumers.
Upside, which was founded in 2015 and is valued at $1 billion, has ambitious plans to partner with more restaurants and create more meat products, from hot dogs to hamburgers to dumplings, over the next few years, Chen said. Eat Just, which also makes plant-based eggs, launched Good Meat, its cell-cultivated division, in 2017.

From 2016 to 2022, over 150 companies sprung up to develop cell-cultivated meat — receiving nearly $3 billion in investment — in the hope of displacing the conventional meat industry due to concerns about meat’s contribution to climate change, water and air pollution, and cruelty to animals on factory farms. With USDA approval, Good Meat and Upside now face the real challenge: scaling up.

Like I fucking said, rich white liberals trying to get bought by someone bigger. They're absolutely not interested in doing anything else. This is a tech-bro retard trying to rush the product to market before Bill Gates or to get bought by him. There is no market for this and I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't generate more than a chicken nugget and then pack it with soy and wheat filler to reach a pound. That they don't want to reveal anything and make excuses make me think the 'lab grown' part is very, very small and this is just a gimmick.

Not to mention people are still going on about GMOs, decades on when the real problem of GMOs is the awful seed practices and copyrighting life practices, not the products themselves. You think people are just going to retardedly accept this?
Cost being a major stopping point shouldn't be unexpected when you're competing with an industry that is literally prehistoric and has been evolving for most of that time to create increased efficiency.

The thing that has really bothered me about the lab-grown meat subject has always been the decision to go after specifically meat. Why haven't I heard of lab-grown ivory? Where is the lab-grown rhino horn? Maybe some lab-grown shark fins? For your lubrication needs: Lab-grown whale oil! There are plenty of animal parts other than meat that have high value. For early development of your industry, maybe go after the expensive low quantity stuff before going after the bulk.
I'll tell you why (because you said it):

Cost of production outpaces cost of the good. There's simply no reason to do it because you can't do it on scale. They've even said they're going to be selling this at a loss because they're going to put in more investor money. The whole fucking thing is a gimmick and a consequence of retarded tech-bro culture.

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Also let me tell you a little bit about the feasibility of this. Growing cells is hard. Very hard. Have any of you here worked with cell cultures before? I have. You shake them wrong? They die. You don't feed them well enough? They die. Temperature off? They die. Not a good CO2/O2 balance? They die. You look at them wrong? They die.

Oh, and by the by, they're going to have liter vats of these right? Do any of you know the most common thing cells are grown in? Fetal Bovine Serum. For half an litre of FBS, it is $676 dollars. For 1,000 mL of it, or 1 Liter, it is 1,312 dollars. If you don't know what a litre looks like, its a big bottle of soda. And if you need a translation for like a gallon, one gallon of FBS is about five grand. Believe me, you cannot get bulk discounts as every reasearch lab on Earth needs it, not just some faggot techbros trying to con white liberals. And if a couple of bacteria land in that, you're fucked. Because you have to incubate this at temperatures and levels bacteria love. And that nutrient rich broth is wonderful for bacterial growth. So, right out the gate, without ANYTHING ELSE, the most basic thing to grow it in is going to run you over a grand for a soda bottle's worth. And this is one of the things most suceptible to contamination, that you cannot allow anything to touch it. I've had people be extremely obssessive, and yet they come in the next morning and their cell plates are cloudy, meaning its useless and contaminated. It is extremely delicate, time-consuming work that cannot be shortend by throwing money at it.

So. You're going to need to hire expensive professionals, massive vats of liquid worth $1.32 an mL. This isn't even getting into the cost of the cell-lines, which they're not telling us they're using. Traditionally this is done with stem cells and differentiated into muscle. A stem-cell line like that isn't made much and can run between $700-1,000. Typically, stem cells are only good for a few passages, meaning you can't use them forever as they will eventually turn cancerous (hence useless). Because you need the stem cells to produce muscle tissue. Every time you passage (IE: Make a cell line grow and store it for use), there's more uncontrolled division (Cancer). This increases exponentially with each passage and after a certain point, these lines are no longer useable and you've got to go back to the source.

By the by, its not just cancer cells that grow with passaging. Cells transferred from one vessel to another undergow extremem changes. Cell lines at high passage numbers experience alterations in morphology, response to stimuli, growth rates, protein expression, and all sorts of shit. Which means that while the cell line may be still viable for research, it will taste like utter garbage and make you sick. So we don't even know how many passages are good. And by the by, these faggots don't get this, so they will use them until you are eating a muscle tumor. So-called immortal cell lines are 'immortal' because they can be passaged forever and ever and ever. These are extremely rare and the best known immortal cell line is HeLa, which are the cells from hell, but I digress.

The Upside chicken sold to Bar Crenn will be grown in small, two-liter plastic bottles rather than its large bioreactors. Upside chicken will also be made using some animal components, Chen said, which the company hopes to phase out.

They're growing the fucking chicken in specially made media bottles so the cells stick to the sides. (If cells get dialoged or float around, they die). Not only that, they're using animal components as filler too. This is a fucking joke.

So you need a staff of dedicated scientists, expensive media, expensive cell lines which need to be maintained and for limited use. You also need extreme care, expensive equipment and a lot of monitoring. By comparison, for a chicken breast all you need is a chicken, a cage, food, water, an illegal immigrant and a knife. There's absolutely no comparison in simplicity and expense. Why the fuck do you think they're using filler? Because they can't produce fucking any of this shit in a quantity that's reasonable. Even with packing it with filler, they still can't get it below the price of the most expensive cut of steak. This is a boutique product with absolutely no feasible way to scale up. And this isn't even including taste, texture, feel, smell of the product, which is a whole other animal entirely.

You would have civil war, riots and the collapse of civilization before this method was used in any sort of replacement. The only way you can make this work in the current paradigm is to create insane, outlandish scenarios. None of which I'll entertain, because these people have taken my quota of stupid for this thread.

Them getting us to eat bugs is more efficient and makes more sense, and its still batshit retarded and will never happen.

In late 2021, Upside said it could produce 50,000 pounds of cell-cultivated meat annually at its production facility in Emeryville, California, just outside San Francisco, with plans to increase it to 400,000 pounds in the future (annual global meat production is 350 million metric tons).

So why is it producing it in 2 liter bottles? Its two years later, where's the 50,000 pounds guys? I'll tell you where: they couldn't fucking do it. Because the way cells grow don't lend themselves to mass production techniques like bacteria or yeast. These guys are full of shit.
 
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It is not cheaper than real meat, not cheaper than fucking any food.
Yes but I think you're forgetting "coWs aRE bad FoR tHe EnvIROnmEnt!!!" It doesn't matter how much it costs to make this shit if you're "on the right side of history"

Edit: missed the other posts. But yeah, it's way more likely to force people to eat soy and bugs than pushing this shit.
 
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They will never ban real meat. They will just make it incredibly expensive, beef in particular. We’ve already seen the articles where cattle farms have to cut back their carbon footprint in a way where the only solution is producing less. Chicken is a lot cheaper, I expect as beef becomes unaffordable more people will switch to that. Ever check the price crab legs go for these days?
 
They will never ban real meat. They will just make it incredibly expensive, beef in particular. We’ve already seen the articles where cattle farms have to cut back their carbon footprint in a way where the only solution is producing less. Chicken is a lot cheaper, I expect as beef becomes unaffordable more people will switch to that. Ever check the price crab legs go for these days?
It's not to ban meat, its to make the plebs poorer. Fuck your dollar menu, you only get wheat coated cancer cells for your burger. Man, I miss McDonald's when it was cheap
 
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It's not to ban meat, its to make the plebs poorer. Fuck your dollar menu, you only get wheat coated cancer cells for your burger. Man, I miss McDonald's when it was cheap
Honestly, if it was actually cancer it would be easier to produce. Its not cancer, its just differentiated muscle cells. You can't actually eat a tumor, basicallyh its a bunch of misshapen, malformed cells that are all fucked up and likely spongy and hard. If an animal has cancer, it is marked and destroyed and not allowed to enter any food chain. Tumors are typically undifferentiated cell tissue that are deformed and have flaws. It'd be impossible to create a consistent product. Not to mention tumors generally smell like rot because cells are constantly dying and being created, it'd be like eating a garbage dump. Also why tumors aren't allowed to enter the food supply.

That's why its so difficult. You have to have muscle cells, you can't have tumor cells, because it has to abide by FDA regulation, so if you have a combination of muscle cells and tumor cells, into the trash it goes. Which means these cells cannot be used for that many replications before they need a 'fresh' line. Because cancer cell contamination invalidates the product. Which makes it even more expensive.

Part of the problem of cell-lines is creating consistently similar cells. Remember, you've got cells growing and replicating at rates they never, ever would, which makes them susceptible to cancer. If they found a method that grows cells that is super delicious, but always induced cancer, they'd have to dump it. If the only mass produced method was muscle meat that tasted like shit but only developed cancer after a few passages, completely fucked.

Taste isn't universal. Stress, hormones, what the cows eat all contribute to the taste of the meat. Wagu is so expensive because these cows live like kings. Their lives are virtually stress free (until they're slaughtered). Its why cows are slaughtered quickly, as adrenaline and fear creates terrible tasting meat. Same with feed. The industry has been at this for centuries, and has bred 'tastier' cows (black angus, wagu, etc).

Taking a random stem cell line that grows muscle, chucking it in FBS and then mashing it into a meatball guarantees nothing. The general likelihood is that its tasteless, because it doesn't really have any other systems interconnected with it. There's no hormones, no regulation, no growth. Its just uncontrolled cell differentiation. These stem cell lines, shockingly, are not made to reproduce exact conditions without further experimentation. Also any 'ingredients' needed to be added to the FBS need to be completely sterile as well, and also likely would kill all of the cells in them. Like you can't fuck with the pH balance, add oils or salts and shit. Or even naked hormones either, as there are interplay of systems.

This idea sounds simple, but it is insanely complicated. You're also not going to get the best talent, because the margins on this are non-existent and these tech-bros are going to cut corners to be 'disruptive', so you're pretty much done there. If the meat tastes like decaying, rotting muscle because you can't separate the muscle from the cancer, good luck. This is why so much filler and even animal parts are used, because its clear they're having problems generating anything in a sizeable amount.

The first step would be to develop a muscle stem-cell line exclusively for food production. This, in and of itself, could be tens of millions of dollars. The problem is you'd have to explain this to investors, and investors know less about science than science journalists. But its the smartest way to go about it, because you're developing the tech from the ground up.

Taking existing stem-cell lines used for research and trying to make them for food is insanely stupid and part of that 'disruptive' techbro mentality, which means it will (thankfully) destroy this idea in its fuck-up. Its the same idea as using a carbon fiber shell in a submersible. You're using things for purposes that aren't intended, because its cheap.

All you have to see is who they're marketing it too, what they're doing and the current benefit of lab-grown meat.
> The current benefit of lab grown meat would be a cheap, mass-produced meat alternative.
> They are offering something that costs them $20 a pound, produced in 2-liter bottles.
> It is neither mass produced, or cheap, meaning it has no current benefits. It will be more than $20 a pound to the consumer, making it useless.
> There is no flagship product with clear numbers out. Everything they say is meaningless gibberish. They use filler elements, which includes animal parts from traditional butchery. This excludes pretty much their entire consumer base (Vegans, climate activists, leaving only the retarded rich).
> The above means they're having trouble producing this in any meaningful amount. And its still costing them $20 a pound, which means they're fucking up. A lot.
> Marketing it at a Michelin 3-star restaurant where venture capitalists, celebrities and money goes. No normie approaches places like these, and if they do, they're not eating fake meat garbage at $300 a plate. This is to secure more funding or to get someone to buy it
> No solid plan or direction on how to make it to scale and no mention of that boast of producing tons of meat. Meaning they lied 2 years ago and have not figured it out yet and are trying to go to market.

This is a scam, plain and simple.
 
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Taste isn't universal. Stress, hormones, what the cows eat all contribute to the taste of the meat. Wagu is so expensive because these cows live like kings. Their lives are virtually stress free (until they're slaughtered). Its why cows are slaughtered quickly, as adrenaline and fear creates terrible tasting meat. Same with feed. The industry has been at this for centuries, and has bred 'tastier' cows (black angus, wagu, etc).

Taking a random stem cell line that grows muscle, chucking it in FBS and then mashing it into a meatball guarantees nothing. The general likelihood is that its tasteless, because it doesn't really have any other systems interconnected with it. There's no hormones, no regulation, no growth. Its just uncontrolled cell differentiation. These stem cell lines, shockingly, are not made to reproduce exact conditions without further experimentation. Also any 'ingredients' needed to be added to the FBS need to be completely sterile as well, and also likely would kill all of the cells in them. Like you can't fuck with the pH balance, add oils or salts and shit. Or even naked hormones either, as there are interplay of systems.
I guess your right. That's when you go on a hunt, you want the Deer or whatever it is to go down in one shot, to preserve the taste. Cancer probably wouldn't taste good to start with, and as for the cells as is, they have nothing to influence them without the animal. Which means this is more injected with shit than regular meat at the store. Yuck.
 
Someone posted this on another thread here and I am sharing it everywhere.


The Tl;Dw is that the most efficient way to produce meat in large scale already exists and is raising the animals. Evolution didn't make cows and chickens and pigs the way they are for a laugh, there is a reason for that.

You will need a lab "womb", a lab "growth medium", a lab "liver" and "kidneys" to keep your cells alive and growing, you will need massive fucking amounts of electricity to keep the bio-reactors at the 37c to grow the cell cultures, you will need retardedly good cleaning to stop a speck of dust from making the entire 250k liter of growth medium into a huge soup of rotting meat, you will need a retarded amount of safety checks to stop diseases since there will be no lab "immune system" in your fake cow to keep it healthy, you will still need millions of tons of soy and corn and hay to be processed into the growth medium to grow it.

To make this shit even CLOSE to matching the worst of the worst livestock breeds from 6000 years ago when humans first started raising cattle you are looking at something like 50 Nobel Prizes worth of medicine and biology breakthroughs. And even then all you will have is fucking meat slurry because this shit isn't growing on a cow but suspended in liquid and you will still need to process it further to make it look even close to something like a steak meaning another 40 Nobel Prizes worth of shit.

It is all lies and complete bullshit. Silicon Valley vaporwere and "fake it till you make it" taken to 11.
 
I guess your right. That's when you go on a hunt, you want the Deer or whatever it is to go down in one shot, to preserve the taste. Cancer probably wouldn't taste good to start with, and as for the cells as is, they have nothing to influence them without the animal. Which means this is more injected with shit than regular meat at the store. Yuck.
Yeah, that's why you do it. Oh, you couldn't eat cancer without vomiting. Listen, cancer is uncontrolled cell growth with no respect for waste management, energy managment or anything. Cells are dying on top of one another, pumping out toxic waste into your body, crowding organ systems. Cancer is literally a mound of growing toxic waste in your body. Animals do not eat tumors. They can smell it. Some animal cancers are also transmissible as well, which is why animals don't eat them. They're also not allowed to enter the human food chain.

Someone posted this on another thread here and I am sharing it everywhere.


The Tl;Dw is that the most efficient way to produce meat in large scale already exists and is raising the animals. Evolution didn't make cows and chickens and pigs the way they are for a laugh, there is a reason for that.

You will need a lab "womb", a lab "growth medium", a lab "liver" and "kidneys" to keep your cells alive and growing, you will need massive fucking amounts of electricity to keep the bio-reactors at the 37c to grow the cell cultures, you will need retardedly good cleaning to stop a speck of dust from making the entire 250k liter of growth medium into a huge soup of rotting meat, you will need a retarded amount of safety checks to stop diseases since there will be no lab "immune system" in your fake cow to keep it healthy, you will still need millions of tons of soy and corn and hay to be processed into the growth medium to grow it.

To make this shit even CLOSE to matching the worst of the worst livestock breeds from 6000 years ago when humans first started raising cattle you are looking at something like 50 Nobel Prizes worth of medicine and biology breakthroughs. And even then all you will have is fucking meat slurry because this shit isn't growing on a cow but suspended in liquid and you will still need to process it further to make it look even close to something like a steak meaning another 40 Nobel Prizes worth of shit.

It is all lies and complete bullshit. Silicon Valley vaporwere and "fake it till you make it" taken to 11.
Pretty much this.
 
There was a good article in the sub thread about this phenomenon, where everything is Zuckerbergian, rushing and breaking things, as a corporate mantra, rather than slowing down and figuring things out. That shit might work in tech (it doesn't even work there) but is criminally dangerous when applied to this.
It reminds me of Theranos, honestly.
It's this whole "Apply tech business strategies to biology" mentality and it just doesn't work. Biology isn't software. It's not magic either, but there are limitations of reality and physics that make certain things untenable.
E.g. When making lab "meat", there isn't "economies of scale" like there are in other industries. There is a limit to how large a bioreactor can be due to the laws of life itself.

Someone posted this on another thread here and I am sharing it everywhere.

T'was I! Glad you liked it, it's a really good video.
I'll add this one to the thread as well:
 
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