Community Quiverfull Movement Lolcows - Starring the Duggars

[Agent Abe Caprine]

The Abortion Song is slightly better than this pro-life song Underoath made.

Highlights include the guy shrieking "I LOVE YOU!" multiple times.

 

[ANNE ARCKY]

Bobye Holt Granted 10 Year Order of Protection from Jim Holt

How bad does it have to be for a 10 year restraining order to be granted? Shit.

 

[Android raptor]

She was only 14 when he started dating her (he waa 19), can't say I'm surprised he was abusive enough to get a 10 year restraining order. Fundie men not be massive pieces of shit challenge(IMPOSSIBLE).

Paul and Morgan sound like a disaster waiting to happen. Hope the kid make it out relatively unscathed.

 

[Android raptor]

Some good news, at least according to FJ, Maranatha Chapman has followed her daughter and divorced her nonce husband. Reminder that she was married at 15 to a 27 year-old, and her equally creepy dad promised her to the nonce at only 13.

Wonder if her daughter divorcing the pedo she got married to as a child made her realize it was an option for her as well?

 

[mold]

I remember the original blogposts about Marantha's courtship. This is such good news.

 

[LonesomeDud]

Some good news, at least according to FJ, Maranatha Chapman has followed her daughter and divorced her nonce husband. Reminder that she was married at 15 to a 27 year-old, and her equally creepy dad promised her to the nonce at only 13.

Wonder if her daughter divorcing the pedo she got married to as a child made her realize it was an option for her as well?

I am unsurprisingly not a fan of divorce and do not think teenagers marrying is "the worst thing ever," but yes. She absolutely had no choice in the matter given the nature of the marriage. I hope the future brings her peace, and she can find companionship with someone who loves her, and that her faith isn't totally eroded.

 

[Android raptor]

Lord only knows what trauma she has and has been repressing for decades as well since she's a victim of grooming and CSA. I hope she is able to become worldly enough to get therapy like Jill Duggar.

 

[LonesomeDud]

Lord only knows what trauma she has and has been repressing for decades as well since she's a victim of grooming and CSA. I hope she is able to become worldly enough to get therapy like Jill Duggar.

I don't think you meant to offend anyone, but calling therapy "worldly" is extremely condescending and wrong. You know some of those fundamentalist women read here. Don't be that way. Not about something this important.

If I didn't love you as a friend on this weird platform, you know I wouldn't say it. I know you care about people and their mental health more than to comply turn someone away from help.

 

[sorrycharlie]

I am unsurprisingly not a fan of divorce and do not think teenagers marrying is "the worst thing ever," but yes.

As someone who was married off as a teenager to a grown man, maybe it wasn't "the worst thing ever," (as in, it was only life-ruining, not life-ending) but I am unsurprisingly a massive fan of divorce. I fucking love divorce. Anyone who wants to get divorced should get divorced. Divorce rules.

So happy for Maranatha and Bobye.

 

[LonesomeDud]

As someone who was married off as a teenager to a grown man, maybe it wasn't "the worst thing ever," (as in, it was only life-ruining, not life-ending) but I am unsurprisingly a massive fan of divorce. I fucking love divorce. Anyone who wants to get divorced should get divorced. Divorce rules.

So happy for Maranatha and Bobye.

I'm sorry you were in a marriage like that. Divorce is a necessary evil because of the evil of people, but I can't say I would ever describe it as positive.

 

[Android raptor]

I don't think you meant to offend anyone, but calling therapy "worldly" is extremely condescending and wrong. You know some of those fundamentalist women read here. Don't be that way. Not about something this important.

If I didn't love you as a friend on this weird platform, you know I wouldn't say it. I know you care about people and their mental health more than to comply turn someone away from help.

yeah I know therapy is for everyone and doesn't go against any religious beliefs on paper, but I guess I mean "worldly" in the sense that many Fundamentalist cults would consider it worldly and shun it. Shunning psychiatry/mental health help is still a big problem in more conservative communities in general, especially poorer communities with low access to education.

Cult leaders like Gothard I'm sure know how vulnerable people in poor areas with few educational opportunities are, and take advantage of it.

 

[LonesomeDud]

yeah I know therapy is for everyone and doesn't go against any religious beliefs on paper, but I guess I mean "worldly" in the sense that many Fundamentalist cults would consider it worldly and shun it. Shunning psychiatry/mental health help is still a big problem in more conservative communities in general, especially poorer communities with low access to education.

Cult leaders like Gothard I'm sure know how vulnerable people in poor areas with few educational opportunities are, and take advantage of it.

True, conservative religious communities often do, in my experience.


However, people leaving those communities expect scorn and abuse, and mocking them (or the appearance of doing so) is the opposite of helping.

 

[Dr. Butt]

True, conservative religious communities often do, in my experience.


However, people leaving those communities expect scorn and abuse, and mocking them (or the appearance of doing so) is the opposite of helping.

Are you this accommodating to the non-religious women you treat at work? Would you let a woman who is an adult, who knows she does not want and cannot care for a baby, live her life, or would you argue with her the way users here argue with your retarded beliefs? You spend all day telling people on this website to stop being mean to you yet admit to doing the opposite in your professional capacity.

Edit: I really get the feeling that your "one of the good ones" pseudo-fundie schtick is just a cope for the fact that you're not the guy with eight wives and twenty daughters to rape. You absolutely believe in all of this crap and whatever idea you have that a "gentle approach" or whatnot is going to convert internet heathens and make you an all-new kind of pRoPhEt, let me tell you it's complete lunacy.

 

[Android raptor]

True, conservative religious communities often do, in my experience.


However, people leaving those communities expect scorn and abuse, and mocking them (or the appearance of doing so) is the opposite of helping.

Oh I'm not trying to mock them, I fully support people recovering from cults and religious abuse. I guess I mean I hope she and other IBLP/etc survivors are able to get deprogrammed enough to seek therapy, since I'm sure psychiatry was shunned and mental illness not understood in the belief system they were raised in.

Slight powerlevel, but I've been in group therapy with a lot of people who grew up in conservative commumities who had to overcome lots of stigma and misconceptions about mental illness and treatment. Some who still dealt with that shit from their families. It's a widespread problem.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

Are you this accommodating to the non-religious women you treat at work? Would you let a woman who is an adult, who knows she does not want and cannot care for a baby, live her life, or would you argue with her the way users here argue with your retarded beliefs? You spend all day telling people on this website to stop being mean to you yet admit to doing the opposite in your professional capacity. Edit: I really get the feeling that your "one of the good ones" pseudo-fundie schtick is just a cope for the fact that you're not the guy with eight wives and twenty daughters to rape. You absolutely believe in all of this crap and whatever idea you have that a "gentle approach" or whatnot is going to convert internet heathens and make you an all-new kind of pRoPhEt, let me tell you it's complete lunacy.

Not on anyones side here, it genuinely feels like dud is just saying his opinions a bit more blunt and without being asked, as many of us do. I've gone against some of his core principals before, and if I remember right, he just said "I don't agree with it and find it wrong, but thats my stance and you have every right to do it". : Optimistic: maybe, forgive me for butting in.

 

[glass_houses]

Therapy has a lot of stigma even amongst people who didn't grow up in conservative communities and cultures. People often think that you go there to be coddled and enabled and given an excuse to not 'get better'. It's not an entirely unreasonable opinion, as some therapists can be genuinely dangerous when they are incapable of seeing anything besides their own prejudices. One example of this is the current wave of, 'gender affirmation' therapy. Another is that many therapists will always take sides with women and minorities no matter the circumstances, significantly escalating situations that could have been fixed with a swift boot up the arse.

Even if the therapist or mental healthcare professional is objectively a good one, they might not be good for you. I've given recommendations and have received recommendations many times, and whilst many have been met with approval, many have not. There's one particular specialist clinic in my city, for example, that's been recommended to me multiple people, and that I utterly refuse to attend because the long time patients always give me the creeping sensation that I'm talking to a cult member.

However, even if there was no such thing as bad therapists and bad therapy techniques, ultra conservative communities and cult leaders will still rail against therapy because it could inadvertently deprogram a follower and that's the last thing they want.

YMV

 

[Android raptor]

One of the IBLP survivors featured on SHP has accused Priscilla Keller's closeted husband of helping Gothard groom/abuse her and defending Josh Duggar

Are there any IBLP men that aren't sex pests?

 

[The former Jack Donaghy]

One of the IBLP survivors featured on SHP has accused Priscilla Keller's closeted husband of helping Gothard groom/abuse her and defending Josh Duggar
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Are there any IBLP men that aren't sex pests?

Sex pestery is built into the very foundation of IBLP

 

[Android raptor]

Sex pestery is built into the very foundation of IBLP

Considering it was created by a sex pest and all, it really is.

David Waller is apparently also a pecan thief

Also there's rumors that Anna was kicked out of Duggar HQ for arguing with Boob about no longer trying to free her pedo husband, but the source of that info is unreliable so it's to be taken with a grain of salt.

EDIT: fundies are unsurprisingly big mad about SHP, like this one blaming it on The Gays!!!1!!!1

Can't wait til the Netflix Gothard documentary drops and even more normies become aware that IBLP is a pedo cult. Seriously if you think IBLP is the "creational norm of the family", your hard drive needs to be checked.

 

[mold]

Are you this accommodating to the non-religious women you treat at work? Would you let a woman who is an adult, who knows she does not want and cannot care for a baby, live her life, or would you argue with her the way users here argue with your retarded beliefs? You spend all day telling people on this website to stop being mean to you yet admit to doing the opposite in your professional capacity.

Edit: I really get the feeling that your "one of the good ones" pseudo-fundie schtick is just a cope for the fact that you're not the guy with eight wives and twenty daughters to rape. You absolutely believe in all of this crap and whatever idea you have that a "gentle approach" or whatnot is going to convert internet heathens and make you an all-new kind of pRoPhEt, let me tell you it's complete lunacy.

it is a LARP. this is a very online person who is pretending to have a mennonite/anabaptist background.