US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

If they think they can deal with chinks and not get burned they're delusional.

The difference there is in how dipolmacy is handled. With America the said nation is forced to be a vassal state and adopt the wests incompataible culture. With China it is far more like a normal partnership where China doesn't force its politics on you. The Middle East would have a good reason to get its act together too and that's a hatred for America. America spent all those years meddling in the Middle Easts affairs which is sure to have created bitterness.

Trump proved that some level of peace could be achieved he set up a peace treaty after all.

 

[northstar747]

The difference there is in how dipolmacy is handled. With America the said nation is forced to be a vassal state and adopt the wests incompataible culture. With China it is far more like a normal partnership where China doesn't force its politics on you.

my brother in christ. this is totally wrong. America didnt put a gun to the house of saud's head instead the US gave the saudi's a security guarantee to keep the oil flowing to US allies. Hell the US provide military Aid to the Saudi army with their retarded war in Yemen.

The house of Saudi is in a tot

Finally SA and surrounding nations view themselves as Arab while IRAN views its self as Persian, Those groups have had a rivalry only going a 1000 plus years.

China a fair and honest partner? dude who are you talking to? China will whine its ass off at best and cut you out at worst. It totally forces it politics on others I remember josh talking about how a fucking hotel chain regarded tebiet as seperate region (because of visa issues) someone tweeted at the hotel chain "thanks for saying tebeit is seperate" and the fucking hotel chain inside of china was dissolved AKA china will totally shove it politics on you hard core. Hell they fucking banned winny the poo because of a fucking meme

 

[Sicko Hunter]

The next time some smug Eurofag tries to call you an Amerilard remember this is their reality.

 

[Shidoen]

Happy 4th brothers and sisters who are probably brothers.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

my brother in christ. this is totally wrong. America didnt put a gun to the house of saud's head instead the US gave the saudi's a security guarantee to keep the oil flowing to US allies. Hell the US provide military Aid to the Saudi army with their retarded war in Yemen.

The house of Saudi is in a tot

Finally SA and surrounding nations view themselves as Arab while IRAN views its self as Persian, Those groups have had a rivalry only going a 1000 plus years.

China a fair and honest partner? dude who are you talking to? China will whine its ass off at best and cut you out at worst. It totally forces it politics on others I remember josh talking about how a fucking hotel chain regarded tebiet as seperate region (because of visa issues) someone tweeted at the hotel chain "thanks for saying tebeit is seperate" and the fucking hotel chain inside of china was dissolved AKA china will totally shove it politics on you hard core. Hell they fucking banned winny the poo because of a fucking meme

The US instigated color revolutions and occupied parts of the Middle East like the Mafia bombing the shit outta them granted not to them directly but clearly a bid to intimidate them. Then recently you had the white house threatening to cut military funding from Saudi for cutting oil production. China treats its own people like shit sure. But they don't force "democracy" on their trade partners, we as Americans may view China like a bunch of snakes but doesn't mean every other country does. Just look and compare the meeting Biden had with the Saudi prince with the one Xi had.

Did you know the Saudis were directly responsible for Credt Sussie failing since they withdrew their money from them. Evidently they must not care for the West that much. They also had frontrow seats to the Afghanistan shitshow which wouldnt instil much confidence. Believe it or not Geo-poltical situatios can change, especially if you have leadership fucking it up all the time.

 

[northstar747]

. Then recently you had the white house threatening to cut military funding from Saudi for cutting oil production. China treats its own people like shit sure. But they don't force "democracy" on their trade partners,

Did you know the Saudis were directly responsible for Credt Sussie failing since they withdrew their money from them. Evidently they must not care for the West that much.

Okay on point one.

During the cold war there was CIA fuckery a plenty in the middle east, but we started out talking about the saudi's and the petro dollar. again the middle east exist the same way Europe exists its simplfied abstraction of a much more complexe sytem.

Also after the cold war the US fucking destabilized Iraq, lbyia and Syria. The great war on terror and its failure is what lead to the sweeping election of obama, and people who fucking lead us to that point have never been taken to task.

Back to the saudi's they are of a fucking mid evil mind set they will never have a competent military because that would be a threat to the royal family. So they are willingly a client state looking for a security patreon which historically has been the US. Now maybe they are trying to be friendly with the chinese.

Credit sussie was a thoroughly corrupt institution that did business with drug cartels and the like and could never clean up its act. The saudi's flat out said on the record that "They would not increase their stake in the bank (AKA BAIL THEM OUT) because if they own more than 10% it would trigger greater scrutiny from regulators on both sides" They did not engineer the failure of a shitty ran bank.

But re really get back on my original point regarding the EuroDollar system. China makes loans to it trading partners in dollars....it doesnt have to. China makes these loans to its trading partners who talk big about how they are considering the idea of exploring the option to do buisness in not dollars

Just like how ralph is totally gonna stop drinking and run that marathon he's been talking about for the last decade.

Also The Saudi's did 9/11 and I m sure if they got too out of line, we could use 9/11 as a cause bella to do a "regime change."

Let me give you an example of this weird mentality A&N have.

I used to live in California, I lived in both the north and south of the state.

People in the north say "hella" people in the south dont.

People in the north have this "rivalry" with the south and use the term norcal.

people in the south dont say socal or norcal.

because people in the south are soooo far up their own asses they dont know their is rivalry and honestly think SF and Yosemite are cool

No really mention your from sacramento and they will say oh is that near lake tahoe the skiing there is really cool. then they go get their asshole waxed and head to their hot yoga session before picking their trans kid up from daycare.

The US lead order is breaking down slowly because the US just doesnt care anymore to keep it going, the groups who you think challenge the us in a game the us isnt really playing arent up to taking the us's place.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Okay on point one.

During the cold war there was CIA fuckery a plenty in the middle east, but we started out talking about the saudi's and the petro dollar. again the middle east exist the same way Europe exists its simplfied abstraction of a much more complexe sytem.

Also after the cold war the US fucking destabilized Iraq, lbyia and Syria. The great war on terror and its failure is what lead to the sweeping election of obama, and people who fucking lead us to that point have never been taken to task.

Back to the saudi's they are of a fucking mid evil mind set they will never have a competent military because that would be a threat to the royal family. So they are willingly a client state looking for a security patreon which historically has been the US. Now maybe they are trying to be friendly with the chinese.

Credit sussie was a thoroughly corrupt institution that did business with drug cartels and the like and could never clean up its act. The saudi's flat out said on the record that "They would not increase their stake in the bank (AKA BAIL THEM OUT) because if they own more than 10% it would trigger greater scrutiny from regulators on both sides" They did not engineer the failure of a shitty ran bank.

But re really get back on my original point regarding the EuroDollar system. China makes loans to it trading partners in dollars....it doesnt have to. China makes these loans to its trading partners who talk big about how they are considering the idea of exploring the option to do buisness in not dollars

Just like how ralph is totally gonna stop drinking and run that marathon he's been talking about for the last decade.

Also The Saudi's did 9/11 and I m sure if they got too out of line, we could use 9/11 as a cause bella to do a "regime change."

Let me give you an example of this weird mentality A&N have.

I used to live in California, I lived in both the north and south of the state.

People in the north say "hella" people in the south dont.

People in the north have this "rivalry" with the south and use the term norcal.

people in the south dont say socal or norcal.

because people in the south are soooo far up their own asses they dont know their is rivalry and honestly think SF and Yosemite are cool

No really mention your from sacramento and they will say oh is that near lake tahoe the skiing there is really cool. then they go get their asshole waxed and head to their hot yoga session before picking their trans kid up from daycare.

The US lead order is breaking down slowly because the US just doesnt care anymore to keep it going, the groups who you think challenge the us in a game the us isnt really playing arent up to taking the us's place.

I don't want to derail this thread too much so this'll be my last post on the subject.

The US does function like the Mafia and that has built up resentment for the US. Look at what the US does to its own citizens or that the US blew up that German pipeline the US does infact hold a gun to other countries heads, hell the US was caught spying on that German leader awhile ago.

Bossing people around through fear works great except when the boss loses the ability to push people around and the US is losing that ability rapidly. The US is spread too thin and the army is in the weakest state its ever been Afghanistan and the army drag queen shows have shown that. I seriously doubt the Feds could ever succesfully pull off any sort of Cia operation given their current state, the US is viewed far differently then it was 20 years ago.

My point with the bank still stands, yes it was corrupt which is why US officials loved it for laundering and were terrified seeing it fail and "ahem" persuaded the Swiss government into bailing out. There was also a huge risk of contagion to the US that the Saudis would almost certainly have known about. Just the fact that the Feds are talking about de-dollarization would have been unthinkable just a few years ago yet here we are.

I don't even think anyone wants to take the USA's place as world police, they just want the US to fuck off and to stop pushing its ideologies on everyone else. The goal is probably just to go back to a multi-polar world without some huge global power ruling over everyone.

 

[Sithis]

The US does function like the Mafia and that has built up resentment for the US. Look at what the US does to its own citizens or that the US blew up that German pipeline the US does infact hold a gun to other countries heads, hell the US was caught spying on that German leader awhile ago.

See, for a long time, the US population believed the mythos. Sometime after WW1 our country really took a nasty turn in terms of our government. I think FDR was the true tipping point - WW2 conveniently made people forget about the time he robbed the country of its gold or his other antics involving the monetary system.

We had started to awaken in the 90s and realize that things weren't all kosher but then 9/11 provided a convenient rallying point and everyone went back to blissful ignorance. The right was slower to realize the true nature of things than the left, and the left seized upon that lapse to take control of our institutions one after the other, using them as a blunt force instrument against any and all ideological opponents.

Now more people know the system is busted but those who know either can't get the motivation to change it or, again, use it opportunistically to bludgeon their foes.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

See, for a long time, the US population believed the mythos. Sometime after WW1 our country really took a nasty turn in terms of our government. I think FDR was the true tipping point - WW2 conveniently made people forget about the time he robbed the country of its gold or his other antics involving the monetary system.

We had started to awaken in the 90s and realize that things weren't all kosher but then 9/11 provided a convenient rallying point and everyone went back to blissful ignorance. The right was slower to realize the true nature of things than the left, and the left seized upon that lapse to take control of our institutions one after the other, using them as a blunt force instrument against any and all ideological opponents.

Now more people know the system is busted but those who know either can't get the motivation to change it or, again, use it opportunistically to bludgeon their foes.

The primary reason why people went to sleep was liberalism and materialism. People were still getting fucked but look at all the cheap Chink-made shit you can buy! Think about all these new “rights” you get to have to shove things up your ass or being able to walk away from your marriage because of muh tingles!

The problem now is that we’re at the endgame of liberalism now that they want to sexualize children, that there’s a big chunk of society that has not had sex in years, and that cheap garbage at Walmart or Dollar General doesn’t work anymore. All the system knows how to do is make things increasingly more depraved and tries to find an even cheaper way to make garbage.

Now that those don’t work, people are starting to stir. That explains the zerg rush of millions more immigrants: if people no longer buy into the system, they’ll import millions more who will.

 

[draggs]

That's the thing though there doesn't have to be some huge new currency to take the dollars place. What can happen is the world splintering and returning to a multi-polar system where different currencies are backed by commodities instead of dollars that would be traded amongst allied nations, each currency that makes gains and is used more is a hit to the dollar and a reduction in the need for a dollar or a "death by a thousand cuts". It's like I said the dollar will still be around and used by whoever wants to side with the US but it will lose it's spending power.

I mentioned Saudi Arabia because they are so vital to the Petro-dollar system and granted yes they are merely playing with the idea. What should be worrying is how much Saudi Arabia is cozying up with China to the point that the Middle East is seeming to unify against the US.

You have other countries making very real efforts to step away from the dollar like Japan recently dumped a ton of bonds and China buying significantly less bonds because they no longer trust the dollar will hold value. The more people that shy away from the dollar is less people purchasing bonds. This wouldn't be as big of a deal but the US debt is already at an absurd level to the point that the deficit is at 1 trillion dollars a year. The bank failures have made it less likely that the banks will want to purchase bonds so that means we'll need more foreign bond purchasers than ever. Places like China or Russia see this and are attacking while the US is vunerable.

Still sperging these fantasies? smdh

Japan recently dumped a lot of US treasuries? wow this must be a sign!

Japan has done what it has always done, buy more when buying more is profitable, and selling more when selling more is profitable. It is a sign of Japan taking a step back on buying foreign government treasuries in general because of current central bank policies globally raising interest rates. This has nothing to do with whatever dipshit political wishcasting. It has everything to do with the natural ebb and flow of treasuries investing thanks to interest rates affecting the cost of hedging

https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

https://ticdata.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/slt_table5.html

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/RS22331.pdf

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/japanese-investors-poised-to-back-further-away-from-us-treasury-market-74097916

https://www.ft.com/content/7adb8061-e15a-481f-a593-3bae69c0d28d

Japan is making no "very real efforts" to step away from the dollar. Japan also sold a record amount of French government treasuries recently. Is Japan making "very real efforts" to move away from the euro? No. Japan is trying to limit its exposure to higher costs caused by current interest rates everywhere

The failure of two large regional and one small regional bank don't mean jack shit to purchases of US government treasuries. The truth is that bank holdings of US government treasuries peaked in February 2022, and have fallen about $550 billion dollars since then. Now the question would be why, and the answer is obvious. The Federal Reserve started raising interest rates in March 2022. Same reason Japan is selling more and buying less. Higher interest rates make the most-used ways to make money off such treasuries less profitable, thus less attractive

The renminbi is 2.76% of global foreign currency reserves

The dollar is 59.79%

The euro is 19.66%

The yen 5.26%

The pound 4.62%

Canadian dollar 2.45%

Australian dollar 1.91%

Swiss franc 0.23%

Other currencies 3.31%

Yes that's right, less than a 1% difference in the share of global foreign currency reserves between Australia (26 million people, 1.7 trillion GDP) and China (1.4 billion, 19.3 trillion GDP)

The currencies of the American bloc of countries comprise 94% of global foreign currency reserves

It's fucking ogre, America should shut down right now tbh

Did you know that just 30 years ago, the dollar share of global foreign currency reserves was 50%? Now it's 60%. Ten years ago it was 70%. The dollar is fucking donezo boys

People should stop giving political reasons and wishes for alleged economic habbenings and predookshuns. People don't give a shit about your multipolar sperging. They are in the game to make money

I don't want to derail this thread too much so this'll be my last post on the subject.

The US does function like the Mafia and that has built up resentment for the US. Look at what the US does to its own citizens or that the US blew up that German pipeline the US does infact hold a gun to other countries heads, hell the US was caught spying on that German leader awhile ago.

Bossing people around through fear works great except when the boss loses the ability to push people around and the US is losing that ability rapidly. The US is spread too thin and the army is in the weakest state its ever been Afghanistan and the army drag queen shows have shown that. I seriously doubt the Feds could ever succesfully pull off any sort of Cia operation given their current state, the US is viewed far differently then it was 20 years ago.

My point with the bank still stands, yes it was corrupt which is why US officials loved it for laundering and were terrified seeing it fail and "ahem" persuaded the Swiss government into bailing out. There was also a huge risk of contagion to the US that the Saudis would almost certainly have known about. Just the fact that the Feds are talking about de-dollarization would have been unthinkable just a few years ago yet here we are.

I don't even think anyone wants to take the USA's place as world police, they just want the US to fuck off and to stop pushing its ideologies on everyone else. The goal is probably just to go back to a multi-polar world without some huge global power ruling over everyone.

No please don't stop

Nobody cares. You keep saying things and making claims and they're just silly nonsense. This "resentment for the US" was even higher in the Cold War in Western Europe. Look at all of them sucking our dicks now because they're afraid of Russia. Except the list has grown because now nearly every single one of the former Warsaw Pact countries want to blow us too. Look at the Philippines government getting on its knees begging us to come back militarily now that they've realized China is going to show them what exploitation really is if they don't have a big strong friend around

The US is losing that ability so rapidly that every country save one or two in Europe and every country save one or two in Southeast Asia is begging us to get closer with them militarily. Because they're afraid of Russia and/or China

The US is indeed viewed far differently than it was in 2003, today the US is recognized as the bulwark between these countries and taking unlubed Chinese and Russian cock up the ass

Nobody in Beijing or Moscow thinks the US is weak because of Afghanistan or even drag shows. Your meme arguments show a very real lack of seriousness

The Fed talked about de-dollarization because midwit congresspeople and midwit journalists suddenly got very concerned about it and had to be talked to like children to lol calm them down

Who are these people that want the US to fuck off? They don't exist in Europe and southeast Asia, outside of Burma and Thailand. They don't exist in India. Pajeets want China to fuck off, not America. They don't exist in Japan or the Philippines or Vietnam. South Africa? They wanted their electricity to fuck off and it did, so America should definitely watch out. The rest of Africa? The Arabs? Brazil? The rest of South America? oh, you mean Russia and China. So fucking what?

I don't think you think at all. You repeat what you've read elsewhere and don't take a second to ponder if it is the full picture or even an incomplete but accurate one so far as it goes

 

[Canned Ham]

 

[HackerX]

I think bot of you have decent points made.

The thing is that BRICS doesn't need to actually succeed at replacing the USD for the USD to collapse, they just need to cause enough of a shitshow to make the USD unstable.

I'll always go with the idea that the global currency is always by the threat of violence. Assuming that's true, were definitely living in interesting times.

Did you know the Saudis were directly responsible for Credt Sussie failing since they withdrew their money from them. Evidently they must not care for the West that much.

Wasn't that situation more of a symptom of Credit Suisse being a shitshow more than the Saudis being nefarious?

 

[Omen_Sulk]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1676292291663634442

 

[God of Nothing]

The next time some smug Eurofag tries to call you an Amerilard remember this is there reality.
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b-but america is bad too
instead of the government sending you to jail, you get cancelled on twitter

 

[MrJokerRager]

The next time some smug Eurofag tries to call you an Amerilard remember this is there reality.
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b-but america is bad too
instead of the government sending you to jail, you get cancelled on twitter

That guy who got sent to prison for a meme from 2016, is still in prison lol for insulting her holiness Hillary Clinton (PBUH).

 

[God of Nothing]

That guy who got sent to prison for a meme from 2016, is still in prison lol for insulting her holiness Hillary Clinton (PBUH).

He tricked niggers into thinking texting Hillary was a vote for her.
epic fucking troll but the dumbass didn't realize that was fed-approved behavior

 

[draggs]

I'll always go with the idea that the global currency is always by the threat of violence. Assuming that's true, were definitely living in interesting times.

There have been two global currencies, neither one was by the threat of violence, so try again

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

No please don't stop

Nobody cares. You keep saying things and making claims and they're just silly nonsense. This "resentment for the US" was even higher in the Cold War in Western Europe. Look at all of them sucking our dicks now because they're afraid of Russia. Except the list has grown because now nearly every single one of the former Warsaw Pact countries want to blow us too. Look at the Philippines government getting on its knees begging us to come back militarily now that they've realized China is going to show them what exploitation really is if they don't have a big strong friend around

The US is losing that ability so rapidly that every country save one or two in Europe and every country save one or two in Southeast Asia is begging us to get closer with them militarily. Because they're afraid of Russia and/or China

The US is indeed viewed far differently than it was in 2003, today the US is recognized as the bulwark between these countries and taking unlubed Chinese and Russian cock up the ass

Nobody in Beijing or Moscow thinks the US is weak because of Afghanistan or even drag shows. Your meme arguments show a very real lack of seriousness

The Fed talked about de-dollarization because midwit congresspeople and midwit journalists suddenly got very concerned about it and had to be talked to like children to lol calm them down

Who are these people that want the US to fuck off? They don't exist in Europe and southeast Asia, outside of Burma and Thailand. They don't exist in India. Pajeets want China to fuck off, not America. They don't exist in Japan or the Philippines or Vietnam. South Africa? They wanted their electricity to fuck off and it did, so America should definitely watch out. The rest of Africa? The Arabs? Brazil? The rest of South America? oh, you mean Russia and China. So fucking what?

I don't think you think at all. You repeat what you've read elsewhere and don't take a second to ponder if it is the full picture or even an incomplete but accurate one so far as it goes

That is a whole lot of text to spew absolutely nothing but cope. On what fucking planet is this ok you absolute fucking denthead? This is the money velocity since 2008 notice something?

You're being cooked alive like a frog with inflation into serfdom.

What kinda fucking moron defends the Federal Government and its shit policies?

 

[ditto]

I just hope BRICs Bucks are John Wick-style gold coins.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

That is a whole lot of text to spew absolutely nothing but cope. On what fucking planet is this ok you absolute fucking denthead? This is the money velocity since 2008 notice something?

The realities are all out there. If there are people who ignore them theres nothing you can do at this point. 7 more countries have pledged interest in BRICS. More countries are now shifting resources in Yuan. Obviously they can't simply dump all their US treasury bonds in a single shot, that would be world economic suicide. But we in the West will gradually see ourselves fall into Brazil or even Venezuela like living conditions.

You already see the tents forming on the sidewalks, in the parks. Even as far away as Australia.