Homebrew HRT Community - From mixing estradiol with bioadhesives to cooking plastic bags.

[WonderWino]

I swear theres money to be made exploiting these dumb sick AGP freaks.
As long as you straight up dont poison them and whatever you sell the marks isn't toxic you're morally in the clear too, its far less harmful than actual foreign hormones would be, really you're helping them to avoid negative effects, everyone wins.
Plus they can't even report you without getting in shit themselves - them trying to buy it is already illegal so they have no leg to stand on, it'd be like calling the cops to complain your crack dealer just sold you bicarbonate of soda.

At this rate i'd laugh my ass off if somebody sold them literal magic beans in the form of jelly beans marketed to troons as HRT beans - no injection needed, just eat a handful a day for a month and you'll grow a natural set of DD's and shrink your dick to the size of a pea. 100% natural ingredients and comes in 50 flavors. Completely coincidental that they match the flavors jelly belly puts out of course

The troons who posted to twitter and reddit screeching about how they got sold jellybeans thinking they were a new HRT treatment invented in some random african country nobody ever heart of would be priceless

Let's see the glaring reviews of his troon jelly.

Said jelly should be referred to as royal jelly, to reflect the insane amount of raging narcissism troons are filled with

Time to examine some... estradiol rectal injections.

That deserves a random.txt entry

 

[AltisticRight]

looks like an appalachian meth lab setup

That's an unfair comparison because Cletus' SneedLabs Refinery has higher standards than this botched troonshine distillery.

That explains why the CCP banned.

To be fair, the ban could just be lip service as being the biggest exporter of shoddy fentanyl products is extremely bad optics. The Sackler Family (okay, yes, they are Jewish, move on) is known to get vulnerable people hooked on their opioids. I doubt the CPC wants this kind of attention.

From what I can see and from the people I've spoken to in China, it doesn't seem to be enforced beyond the select few large online retail sites. This sucks, I hope they seriously crack down on illegal substance trafficking before something truly nasty happens.

 

[A Grey Cat]

i think i miss when scum sold meth and crack to as opposed to homebrewed tranny juice. cause meth and crack did less damage than the troonshine ever did.

 

[oramge cat]

The thought of some trooned out Walter White making bathtub HRT for cheap and desperate troons will never not be funny to me. Nature really does have a way of killing off the most compulsive and retarded of the species.

I would love to see a Breaking Bad parody centered around this premise.
Mrs. White, I think I fucked up the batch!
What the hell are you doing, Jessica?

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

(okay, yes, they are Jewish, move on)

Why is that the funniest thing I have read all year?

 

[Pizdec]

The thought of some trooned out Walter White making bathtub HRT for cheap and desperate troons will never not be funny to me. Nature really does have a way of killing off the most compulsive and retarded of the species.

I'm not sorry.

 

[Otterly]

No one tell them how oestrogenic organo chlorine and organophosphate based pesticides are, they’ll be bathing in malathion and using roundup as shampoo…

 

[AMHOLIO]

I would love to see a Breaking Bad parody centered around this premise.
Mrs. White, I think I fucked up the batch!
What the hell are you doing, Jessica?

"Jessie, we need to dilate!"

 

[Fornicario]

"You WILL inject your own piss"

Time to reboot the Bear Grylls meme. An example:
"China won't ship HRT. Time to inject your own piss"

 

[Dr. Funk]

All the min-maxing, fixation on numbers (hormone levels, dosages, progress tracking), and sharing elaborate opinionated instructions reeks of hobby autism. Trooning out is a deranged self-harm rpg for these people.

It's also malebrained as fuck, and it's hilarious that even after all this attempting to optimize the perfect Woman Juice to inject, they will still remain males for the rest of their lives.

Meanwhile the pooners don't even bother with measurements or precautions, just inject as much T as you want doooood, the more the better, the more it suppresses your estrogen! Moar genderfeels dood! Heckin Valid!

 

[Temperance]

More from r/TransDIY.

My eyes glazed over at this display of autism. Also, is it any wonder why Big Pharma loves troons? Even if the troons refuse to go to ~evil~ gatekeeping doctors, they still consoom a crazy amount & variety of drugs.
Btw, he says he's currently taking Qlaira sublingually (under the tongue) as his DIY HRT. Qlaira is a birth control pill... Apparently this isn't even uncommon; troons will just take birth control pills or anything else with estrogen and call it HRT.

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Hello everyone. I hope you’re having a great day, I just wanted to share with you some of my doubts and concerns related to my feminisation hormone therapy since I’m doing DIY due to medical gatekeeping !

I started HRT on September 2021 and so far so good ! I’m pretty happy with the changes I’ve experienced since then. Back in the past, I used to take spironolactone (75mg/day), bicalutamide (10mg/day), finasteride (2.5mg/day) and 3 Lenzetto puffs daily on the inner side of my right arm. In October 2022, I changed my estradiol medication due to constant shortages of Lenzetto in my country to Topasel/Perludil/Perlutan (algestone acetophenide and estradiol enantate 150mg/10mg in oil solution every 21 days), my antiandrogen meds remain the same… a few months later, on January 2023, I added Climodien from Bayer (dienogest and estradiol valerate 2mg/2mg) sublingually while sleeping to my hormonal regimen and reduced my antiandrogen meds intake because dienogest is an antiandrogen on its own, however, since the beginning, I had a hard time supplying the Climodien pills necessary for my regimen, so, in April 2023 I dropped Climodien and got instead the quadriphasic contraceptive Qlaira which ingredients are pretty similar to Climodien pills (it’s the same, the only difference is 2 inactive pills and 17 pills containing 3mg dienogest instead of 2mg). It’s important to stress that I take Qlaira pills sublingually (they melt really quickly since they don’t have the enteric sugar coat Climodien and Progynova have, so, that’s a plus), however, because of quickly melting taking them sublingually gives me an unbearable bitter scent that penetrates my mouth !

I know I ideally should take estradiol hemihydrate pills without a progestogen, but this is not possible because there are no estradiol hemihydrate preparations as a pill in my country. I read on transfemscience estradiol valerate (specifically Progynova from Bayer) may be suitable for sublingual administration, but I can’t afford it (it’s absurdly expensive) and, as long as I know, there are constant Progynova shortages too !

So my question is… if Qlaira pills taste bitter… does this mean my body is not absorbing my EV sublingually ? Is EV from Qlaira micronised and suitable for sublingual intake ?

I’d like to add something: there’re 4 Qlaira pills containing EV alone (2 pills containing 3mg EV, and the last ones containing 1mg EV) and these ones don’t taste bitter… so, I suppose the bitter scent comes from dienogest that sheds on my mouth and I finally end swallowing… is this O.K. ?

Is it worth continuing taking Qlaira pills sublingually ? Should I take them orally ? If yes, is it worth taking Qlaira orally ? Should I drop Qlaira and upped my injectable estradiol dosage ? What should I do, I think I’m lost and I don’t want to detransition or halt my body changes due to imbalanced hormone levels .

Oh ! Another thing ! In case you suggest I should continue taking Qlaira… do you think if placing my Qlaira pills between my gingiva and upper lip may help to reduce that bitter scent (I think doing so, dienogest that sheds to my mouth shouldn’t reach my tongue, or it could but to a lesser extent making it bearable)? I’ve heard about that méthode but I don’t know if EV from Bayer’s Qlaira can be absorbed that way…

I know they are a lot of doubts, but please, if you can contribute to answering and helping me anything, please, do it! Thank you all for reading my post and have a nice day !

And I’d like to say sorry in advanced because of my poor English skills, it’s not my native language so, if I have a lot of grammatical mistakes and misspellings, please, sorry and don’t be rude !

XOXO

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This kid is panicking after reading troon FOMO/fearmongering elsewhere on Reddit. He wonders if he needs to get on HRT immediately, since otherwise he might never "pass" if he waits too long. Very insidious.

He says he's 18 years old, but take note of the bit below ("Edited the post slightly because of rules").

https://archive.ph/CnY2a
The comments section is kind of entertaining since some troons are encouraging him to start it ASAP, while others (the mid-life crisis types) are offended at the idea that they transitioned "too late". You can smell the narc injury.
A commenter tells the OP that he needs to start NOW. Also promises that HRT will widen his pelvis and feminize his bones. This has been upvoted to +17...

This kid only decided to troon out in the past week.

Turns out the kid was lying. He's actually 16 years old. He just wrote 18 to abide by the subreddit rules. But as you can see, this rule is just a fig leaf that none of the troons actually care about.

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Side-note, but I'm frequently seeing this "Transfeminine Science" website linked in r/TransDIY threads. Appears to be their go-to to add a seemingly scientific/academic veneer to their DIY HRT experimenting. Also commonly used to guide newcomers down the path of DIY HRT (see this example).
Anyway, I clicked on the TransFem Science article about puberty blockers, and I didn't even make it through the Abstract before giving up. Check out this nonsense:

Puberty blockers are medications used to pause puberty in both cisgender and transgender youth. For the latter, significant evidence suggests that they improve well-being, psychological functioning, and risk of suicidality, both during puberty and in later life. Their effects are reversible upon discontinuation. Current evidence does not suggest any negative impact on cognitive development, IQ, or fertility. A minor impact on bone density may exist, affecting primarily transgender girls, but little high quality data is available. Based on limited data, prescribers may wish to consider calcium supplementation in transgender teens receiving puberty blockers, and may wish to prefer transdermal delivery over oral estrogens in transgender girls starting hormone therapy in order to optimise bone density outcomes. There is a lack of evidence supporting the common belief that most children grow out of gender dysphoria (“desistance”), as widely cited data describing the rate at which this happens appears highly unreliable.

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This person wants to know the cheapest and easiest way to start DIY HRT. I thought this thread was informative.

Apparently estradiol injections are the cheapest? I wonder if this will change if China really does start cracking down on selling estradiol.


I suspect this is what a lot of young and/or lazy troons actually do. Just take birth control pills and hope for the best.

Cooking plastic bags for xenoestrogens will remain an unrealistic meme, I guess.

Here's something interesting, though. This guy recommends making "stickies".

https://stickies.neocities.org/stickies [Archive]
You basically get your hands on some pills for menopause, grind them up, mix them with guar gum & water, and then stick a bit of it up in your gums all day.


Homemade estrogel (topical estrogen gel) is another cheap option. https://old.reddit.com/r/estrogel

Apparently the most basic estrogel recipe is just to blend together "plain estradiol" and hand sanitizer, lol. And then the troons rub some of it on their genitals...

 

[Positron]

Someone should start selling estrogen chewing gum (or bubble gum, with pictures os anime girls blowing huge bubbles)

 

[ChromaQuack]

No one tell them how oestrogenic organo chlorine and organophosphate based pesticides are, they’ll be bathing in malathion and using roundup as shampoo…

Too late, already added it to the DYI directory alongside the entry on "how to give yourself SRS with black salve, a butcher's knife and a power drill".

 

[AltisticRight]

Time to reboot the Bear Grylls meme. An example:
"China won't ship HRT. Time to inject your own piss"

>Things have escalated, now I am forced to inject my own piss.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

it'd be like calling the cops to complain your crack dealer just sold you bicarbonate of soda.

 

[Temperance]

Interesting news:

The successor of hrt.cafe is diyhrt.cafe (see: this Reddit thread). This is a major site where troons go to find "reputable" suppliers for DIY troonshine and raw ingredients.

Anyway, the owner of diyhrt.cafe just announced yesterday that he's stepping back into a more limited role due to poor mental health. He's looking for someone to run the site for him, although he'll still be around to pay the bills.

On Reddit, the owner is u/tpyourself. [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/14v686r/looking_for_new_administrator_for_diyhrtcafe/ [Archive]

Hello everyone~

Recently my mental health has truly taken a turn for the worst. I've spent the majority of the past couple months in secure psych wards under certification. As such, I have decided that it is in the best interests of the community for me to transfer the responsibilities for operating diyhrt.cafe to another individual or organization.

Therefore, we are looking to add someone new to the team who can take care of the day-to-day operations of the client-facing sides of the project, including providing assistance over email for non-administrative matters and updating the site to stay up-to-date with the current position. I am still able to take care of the legal, financial, and technical side of the project at this point in time. This means the project's lawyers will still be available for consult, I will take care of the tax returns at the end of the year, and I will maintain the technical infrastructure to operate the website. You will be authorized to use the project's funds to purchase services and articles necessary to maintain the project. Our research team will be eligible for consults with you as needed.

This position is offered both as a paid and unpaid basis. As a paid position, this is a part-time position, and you will need to meet certain legal requirements in order to be paid in accordance with Canadian law. Regardless of financial compensation, you will be eligible to join the board of directors as you wish.

Edit: You don't have to live in Canada!

Please let me know if you are interested in the comments, and I will DM you to talk more about the specifics.

Diyhrt.cafe supposedly has a board of directors, lawyers on retainer, and a "research team". I wonder if this is just a gross exaggeration, or maybe they're being bankrolled by wealthy tech troons (or other mysterious patrons ). Sounds like a pretty serious operation, regardless... All to get sketchy Chinese chemicals and DIY troonshine into the hands of desperate & stupid troons, some of whom are underage.


Oh, and of course this website has no trouble using Cloudflare and Stripe.

More info on the website owner's mental health problems:

This guy has access to all the DIY HRT he could want, but he still keeps trying to kill himself. Who could have imagined that trooning out doesn't actually fix your problems? wow

 

[Positron]

This guy has access to all the DIY HRT he could want, but he still keeps trying to kill himself.

Even more ironic is that, with access to all chemicals, he can't make himself a nice cocktail to painlessly finish the job.

 

[WonderWino]

So this got recommended to me on youtube for some reason. The entire time watching this it was blatantly obvious it was a case of 'how to tell me this guy is a wannabe troon without actually saying he's a wannabe troon.' I find it very hard to believe anybody who wasn't a troon would do something like this. Ticks off way too many boxes

So that said how long before this gets marketed as the new bathtub HRT?

 

[Aunt Carol]

So this got recommended to me on youtube for some reason. The entire time watching this it was blatantly obvious it was a case of 'how to tell me this guy is a wannabe troon without actually saying he's a wannabe troon.' I find it very hard to believe anybody who wasn't a troon would do something like this. Ticks off way too many boxes

So that said how long before this gets marketed as the new bathtub HRT?

I don't think that was a troon. There have always been psychotics and compulsives who have looked at the testicles and decided they had to go, the latter with more planning and ruminating than the former.

Really, it highlights an interesting phenomenon. There are lots of little eunuch communities, on Reddit even, and bodymodder tales from long before the popularity of transgenderism. However, these modern MtFs seem to be taking a strictly additive tack in their hormone management.

To be clear: I am not advocating for troons to take some PTO and castrate themselves. It's just weird that they're going to all these lengths to source testosterone blockers, when there's some low-hanging fruit right there. Or like that teenage MtF Alcorn: hated masculinizing so much that he decided to kill himself in a foolproof way. If you're already planning to die because you're angry at having endogenous testosterone, why not try to remove the bulk of your testosterone production first? Worst case scenario is you bleed out and die, but that was your plan already, so, like, what gives? They don't even have to go to the farm store and get an elastrator; there are plenty of guides on alcohol injections and "stirring."

Maybe I am being autistic but it seems like these troons are not running a proper cost-benefit analysis before they put their plans into action.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Nature really does have a way of killing off the most compulsive and retarded of the species.

Compulsively retarded is actually a good way of putting it. No matter what society or the world does to try and stop them from being retarded, they will continue to fight against all odds to accomplish it.