𝕏 / Twitter / X, the Social Media Platform Formerly Known as Twitter / "MUSK OWNS TWITTER"

[General Emílio Médici]

I am somewhat surprised, but maybe this was mentioned before and I haven't seen it, that no one is bringing up the obvious reason this Meta backed Twitter 2 is getting made.

The powers that be want their control over the mainstream internet back, and since Elon isn't playing ball they will just make a new Twitter to push their shit.

Twitter was too valuable, they are hurting from the lack of it. It used to be the glowniggers and D.C. agenda pushers could just go and directly tell Twitter to SHUT IT DOWN, or boost a hashtag, or tell the searches to be tweaked, and more. But now the Mad Boer won't do it, and worse he has revealed their tools. They really want this back, so they are making a new "official" Twitter replacement with the backing of a more reliable ally to try and take it over.

Of course, it's not so simple and you can't just force it like this, but we all know the people in charge are midwits high on their own farts.

I for one hope Musk and Zucc self destruct each other.

 

[Calandrino]

I don't think I'll ever hear "Threads" and not think of the nuclear apocalypse movie first. "Meta" sounds a bit sinister too. High time this dystopia stopped being so cutesy.

 

[FarmVille]

You may be right, but I’ve heard the same sentiments about YouTube for years. It’s broken, I’m being demonitized, I’m being blacklisted, I’m being auto-unsubscribed, my comments are being botted, Susan Wojcicki bathes in orphan blood, yada, yada, yada. Oh, this and that platform will be what finally acts as a competitor to YouTube. If you listen to half these ‘creators’ they sound like they’re practically being held hostage. Almost nothing that YouTube has done in the past decade has been well received or popular, and yet that’s where people are. That’s where the eyes are established, and people will go to extraordinary degrees of inconvenience to justify a sunk-cost investment.

Ive never heard of any massive YouTube outages affecting its performance, but it’s weird that you use YoutTube as an example of people refusing to switch to new platforms when they’ve been losing considerable ground to TikTok over the past few years.

According to research from the market analysts data.ai (formerly AppAnnie), TikTok is number one worldwide for consumer spend, with YouTube in second place as of September 2022. But the discrepancy is far larger when it comes to active users. TikTok is in fifth place but YouTube does not make the top 10. YouTube still has the lead on consumer spending in the US, its largest market, but even there TikTok is hot on its heels.

TikTok was downloaded 74.5m times around the world in September 2022, while YouTube trailed it with 19.7m downloads, data.ai’s analysis shows. In the UK, the figures are equally stark: 1.96m downloads in the last three months for TikTok, and 838,000 for YouTube.

The conflict is about more than the bottom line. YouTube’s format, with longer videos, more ad breaks and an older audience, is easier to monetise than TikTok’s short-form infinite scroll. But TikTok is the star of the zeitgeist, forcing YouTube to play catchup.

The platform has responded by launching TikTok-style formats such as YouTube Shorts, a service offering vertical video, limited to 60 seconds, in an infinite scroll. It was initially launched in India only after rapid development to exploit the country’s short-lived ban on TikTok, and then rolled out globally in July 2021. Despite YouTube claiming success, reporting 5tn cumulative views on Shorts in January 2022, the service has failed to scale TikTok’s heights.

Users have no loyalty to platforms. If something comes along that better fits their need, they will go. There’s no reason to believe Twitter is somehow immune to this for [reasons].

 

[RVNX]

I am somewhat surprised, but maybe this was mentioned before and I haven't seen it, that no one is bringing up the obvious reason this Meta backed Twitter 2 is getting made.

The powers that be want their control over the mainstream internet back, and since Elon isn't playing ball they will just make a new Twitter to push their shit.

Twitter was too valuable, they are hurting from the lack of it. It used to be the glowniggers and D.C. agenda pushers could just go and directly tell Twitter to SHUT IT DOWN, or boost a hashtag, or tell the searches to be tweaked, and more. But now the Mad Boer won't do it, and worse he has revealed their tools. They really want this back, so they are making a new "official" Twitter replacement with the backing of a more reliable ally to try and take it over.

Of course, it's not so simple and you can't just force it like this, but we all know the people in charge are midwits high on their own farts.

I for one hope Musk and Zucc self destruct each other.

Bold of you to assume Twitter isn't the same media-controlled conglomerate it has been before. All it needs is enough money for Elon to bend over and spread his cheeks. He's proven it multiple times in the past. It boosts the same retarded garbage it used to before, and apart from labeling a few news outlets as "Government-Affiliated Media" absolutely nothing has changed.

 

[FarmVille]

Bold of you to assume Twitter isn't the same media-controlled conglomerate it has been before. All it needs is enough money for Elon to bend over and spread his cheeks. He's proven it multiple times in the past. It boosts the same retarded garbage it used to before, and apart from labeling a few news outlets as "Government-Affiliated Media" absolutely nothing has changed.

amazing all he had to do was label NPR ”state sponsored” and people believe this guy—a billionaire whose entire net worth sits on the US stock exchange—is their anti-DC crusader. Elon needs easy access to US banking more than oxygen, he will never take on the “deep state” or whatever and no instiutions are scared of his tired memes.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I should clarify: I am not saying Elon is some anti-establishment hero or that he has been that amazing on fighting globohomo, but he has severely toned down the control The Powers That Be had and isn't playing ball as much as they want. We already know TPTB are mostly midwit morons who think that are geniuses because of brownosers and their money piles, so it makes sense they are doing something like this to remake their old Twitter to control directly like pre-Elon Twitter instead of something new.

 

[FarmVille]

He is literally acting as agent of the government in India, Turkey, and Israel at the behest of personal requests from their leadership. They don’t even need to go to the courts to try and intervene anymore, they just ask him as a favor and he complies.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

But he isn't doing that for the US government. Or most of the EU. Where Zucc's friends are. That is the point I am making.

 

[FarmVille]

You don’t seem to realize he hasn’t actually done anything to piss off the US government. Twitter still complies with all legally required take down requests, as per the words of Elon himself.

Theres no conspiracy, Threads exists because Meta believes they can make more in ad spend than it costs to develop a Twitter clone. That’s it.

People are complaining that Threads is shit. I don’t know because I’m not making an Instagram account for it.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Theres no conspiracy

Where do you think you are?

 

[ForTheHoard]

You don’t seem to realize he hasn’t actually done anything to piss off the US government. Twitter still complies with all legally required take down requests, as per the words of Elon himself.

Theres no conspiracy, Threads exists because Meta believes they can make more in ad spend than it costs to develop a Twitter clone. That’s it.

People are complaining that Threads is shit. I don’t know because I’m not making an Instagram account for it.

Legal takedown requests weren't the problem. Political based censorship at the behest of a few powerful people was.

 

[FarmVille]

Legal takedown requests weren't the problem. Political based censorship at the behest of a few powerful people was.

Were you not on Twitter when he removed every mention of a BBC documentary that was critical of Indias president?

According to Rest of World, which accessed the company’s self-reported data, Twitter received 971 government and court requests from October 27, 2022 to April 27, 2023. Requests ranged from demands to remove contentious posts and furnish private data to identify anonymous accounts. Twitter reported that it fully complied with 808 of these requests and partially complied in 154 other instances. Regarding nine requests, Twitter did not report any specific response.

“Most alarmingly, Twitter’s self-reports do not show a single request in which the company refused to comply, as it had done several times before the Musk takeover. Twitter rejected three such requests in the six months before Musk’s takeover, and five in the six months prior to that,” Rest of World said….
The data also reveals that there has been a significant increase in the percentage of requests that Twitter fully complies with. In the year before Musk’s acquisition, the rate was around 50% but has since shot up to 83% – 808 requests out of 971.

Any country where a Tesla can be sold has an open line to the Twitter report button. Yes, that includes the US and the EU.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

You don’t seem to realize he hasn’t actually done anything to piss off the US government. Twitter still complies with all legally required take down requests, as per the words of Elon himself.

This is not only false, you seem to have missed the drama of the whole Twitter Files shitshow that is currently the center of a huge lawsuit that the US Government is losing.

Twitter was quite literally taking orders from the US Government, from agencies like NSA and FBI, under the table via e-mails and temporary messages directly between glowniggers and Jannies. They were bypassing the need to justify takedowns and actually follow the law by using a shadow hand to control people's speech on the platform.

Were you not on Twitter when he removed every mention of a BBC documentary that was critical of Indias president?

A Request the Indian Government made openly and with legal backing, not under the table by having a top curry glownigger message Elon and ask him to do the needful please sir on the side without anyone knowing and telling anyone who asked it was just "ToS".

You are deliberatly missing the point and ignoring the issue.

 

[ScatmansWorld]

I hope he makes something harmless and commercial that your boomer aunt could enjoy, no porn or pervs allowed

Well, Threads is a sub-service of Instagram, whose TOS forbids NSFW, so it looks like that's exactly what you're getting.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

A Request the Indian Government made openly and with legal backing, not under the table by having a top curry glownigger message Elon and ask him to do the needful please sir on the side without anyone knowing and telling anyone who asked it was just "ToS".

You are deliberatly missing the point and ignoring the issue.

Elon Musk said himself, we have to abide by foreign goverments takedown requests, or we gets fines and they block us at the state level. What can Musk do realistically?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I am not saying that he should have ignored it, I am pointing out the massive difference between something done in the open and the sort of behind the scenes shit that went on.

I mean, I would have liked it if Musk actually put his money where his mouth is and started refusing to take down anything unless it is actually illegal according to US law but I digress.

 

[AnOminous]

The powers that be want their control over the mainstream internet back, and since Elon isn't playing ball they will just make a new Twitter to push their shit.

Cuckerberg isn't that much into that either. They're constantly dragging him in front of hearings bitching about what he does. Not that he's benevolent, but he's in it for his own interests, not theirs. He'll play along to the extent it's profitable but he's hardly more of a useful pawn than Elon.

I mean, I would have liked it if Musk actually put his money where his mouth is and started refusing to take down anything unless it is actually illegal according to US law but I digress.

He'd really have to remove all personnel and assets from anywhere that is messing with him and shut down all physical operations there, then rely on the SPEECH Act to prevent any collection efforts on foreign judgments in U.S. courts. So any time some country pulled this bullshit, they'd immediately lose a bunch of jobs, which would be very popular.

Genuine shithole regimes wouldn't care but anywhere remotely democratic would have some serious explaining to do.

 

[Mothra1988]

You don’t seem to realize he hasn’t actually done anything to piss off the US government. Twitter still complies with all legally required take down requests, as per the words of Elon himself.

Theres no conspiracy, Threads exists because Meta believes they can make more in ad spend than it costs to develop a Twitter clone. That’s it.

People are complaining that Threads is shit. I don’t know because I’m not making an Instagram account for it.

The Twitter Files proved there was a conspiracy. Whether or not Elon is "based and redpilled" is irrelavant to that fact. Facebook was defintiely in on the same kind of bullshit. The Biden regime just got their asses kicked in court over trying to control social media through back channels. These are facts.

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

I am somewhat surprised, but maybe this was mentioned before and I haven't seen it, that no one is bringing up the obvious reason this Meta backed Twitter 2 is getting made.

The powers that be want their control over the mainstream internet back, and since Elon isn't playing ball they will just make a new Twitter to push their shit.

Twitter was too valuable, they are hurting from the lack of it. It used to be the glowniggers and D.C. agenda pushers could just go and directly tell Twitter to SHUT IT DOWN, or boost a hashtag, or tell the searches to be tweaked, and more. But now the Mad Boer won't do it, and worse he has revealed their tools. They really want this back, so they are making a new "official" Twitter replacement with the backing of a more reliable ally to try and take it over.

Of course, it's not so simple and you can't just force it like this, but we all know the people in charge are midwits high on their own farts.

I for one hope Musk and Zucc self destruct each other.

Something to remember about facebook and meta as a company, they have been coasting off of sheer inertia for years now, even pre pandemic. The heavyhanded bigtech censorship, zuck's poisoned reputation, boomerfication, and total decay of any content quality along with a dozen minor issues would have been the deathknell of faceberg had the last decade not been the golden age of big tech and the era of easy money. The over the top push for the metaverse and its subsequent and spectacular failure I thought showed facebook wouldn't survive when a major shock or user exodus occurred next. However the ground was fertile for a recreation something in the same image as pre musk twitter for leftists and the like to flock to, and the timing of which threads was launched could not possibly have been better with the retarded rate limits musk instituted. Simply put meta/facebook has to adapt to the now changing world or it will perish like the sites before it. Whether it does make the cut is a good question, its explosive growth immediately after it released shows it has a good chance despite zuck.

Like you said though, id be shocked if threads doesnt recieve extreme support from big tech and other associated institutions, even if musk twitter is still a niggercattle plantation losing total control over a valuable conduit of information is unacceptable to them.

 

[D_Tractor]