Suicide Squad Salt

[Overcast]

When women were cosplaying as Harley Quinn a year before the movie even came out, I knew it was going to suck.
Generally I've found overexposure and media saturation to mean that the movie has very little to actually offer anyone.

I don't know, Zootopia and Finding Dory were both marketed like crazy (at least where I lived) and both were generally well received.

Anyway, I'm seeing this with my bro this weekend, so hopefully it's at least okay. Don't have high hopes though.

 

[StarvingAutist]

My main problem with the DC movies is that they understand that "audiences like The Avengers, ergo Justice League movies = profit", but they don't realize the reason why audiences like the Marvel movies.

It's not because of the big crossover events, it's because of how it builds up to the crossovers. The way the drop hints to the next movie, the little easter eggs they leave for devoted fanboys, the way that the movies were structured. It's the way that they buildup the characters - in some ways, they do it better than the actual comics (Civil War the comic was awful, but Civil War the movie was great). It's the way that they put lesser-known properties on equal footing with the big names.

But DC just thinks "okay, we made the Superman movie, now let's have him fight Batman!" But the Nolan movies ended on a pretty conclusive note, how can we get out of that? "Let's just reboot Batman again!" But we already know his origin story. "He's been fighting crime for a long time! In fact, he's coming out of retirement!" Do we see any of this in the movie? "Nah, but let's pretend we already shown it!" Okay, what else? "Let's start forming the Justice League!" Do we know anything about the other people in the Justice League? "No, but let's have a montage where they show off their powers!" Okay, you also said that Wonder Woman's going to be in it. Any idea what she'll do? "Just show up near the end". That's fucking stupid. So, what else is there? "Well, Doomsday's in it, and we'll also have Superman's death and resurrection, and also Darkseid, and a time-traveling Flash, and -"

Okay, you just burned through about six movies worth of good material. What the fuck are you going to do now? "Uh...count my money?"

Yeah, good luck with that, strawman DC executive. The 69% box office drop-off says otherwise

(Oh, and on another note: The superhero-crazy Chinese market hated Batman v Superman. The second-week box office drop-off was 82%. One Chinese viewer described the film as being "true abuse from beginning to end...bloated, sluggish, and clumsy, like a stroke victim")

 

[Quijibo69]

I don't think any Superhero movie could be worse than Batman vs Superman or any Fantastic Four movie. We will soon see.

 

[The Lawgiver]

From the first trailer everyone knew it was going to be bad. Wigger Joker with silver grills and "damaged"'tatooed on his forehead sealed the deal. Taking a character that's supposed to be based on dark humor and making him Vanilla Ice's illegitimate son was never going to end well. No real reason to get salty over it.



I kinda wanna buy a dead shot figure just to have a tiny will smith.

 

[Pikimon]

From the first trailer everyone knew it was going to be bad. Wigger Joker with silver grills and "damaged"'tatooed on his forehead sealed the deal. Taking a character that's supposed to be based on dark humor and making him Vanilla Ice's illegitimate son was never going to end well. No real reason to get salty over it.



I kinda wanna buy a dead shot figure just to have a tiny will smith.

Joker wasn't a huge thing in the Suicide Squad movie, he was a wild card kind of thing. The movie is mostly about Enchantress.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

From the first trailer everyone knew it was going to be bad. Wigger Joker with silver grills and "damaged"'tatooed on his forehead sealed the deal. Taking a character that's supposed to be based on dark humor and making him Vanilla Ice's illegitimate son was never going to end well. No real reason to get salty over it.



I kinda wanna buy a dead shot figure just to have a tiny will smith.

 

[Broseph Stalin]

Same. Will Smith refuses to play anything but Sad Will Smith and Cool Will Smith. Deadshot, a suicidal marksman with no empathy after he accidentally killed his brother and purposely cripples his mother after her plot which resulted in his son being raped and murdered by a pedo is neither Sad Will Smith or Cool Will Smith. Will Smith was chosen because Will Smith, and for some reason they couldn't be fucked to cast him as Rick Flag or Bronze Tiger or something.

Well, he is kinda trying desperately to win back the hearts and minds of his kids who have grown up to become two of the shittiest people on earth ever since he and his wife decided that letting them grow up "free range" would be a good idea. At least he's admitting it was a terrible mistake and trying to atone for it.

 

[YI 457]

Huh, I might be in the minority but I thought the Watchmen film adaption was decent enough - kinda missed the plant monster though, that shit was so fucking whack in the book the nuclear blasting it was replaced by pales in comparison.

But I digress, he should have been let go after Superman Returns. And then again after BvS.

You need to watch more and better movies.

Also, could you imagine this in a movie?

 

[Ntwadumela]

If these fans end up killing themselves, they'll be the new Suicide Squad

 

[GV 998]

I think the real reason DC makes such shitty movies is they don't get good enough writers to translate those characters onto the screen.

I mean, let's compare:

Captain America= Cheesy Cornball Superhero

Movies= Three solo films which all did very well in the box office, and were well received by audiences. Not to mention has appeared in two team up films which also did phenomenally. Reintroduces the brand to a fresh new audience

Superman= Cheesy Cornball Superhero

Movies= Underwhelming, barely eking out a profit, disliked by many fans. Only really liked by hardcore fans who believe DC can do no wrong

 

[Bork Laser]

was any need Ayer to said 'FUCK MARVEL' in

I don't know why DC directors and some actors feel the need to do this. the guy playing aquaman also said this shit. Why are you making fun of Marvel when your movies contiue to be polarizing and making nowhere near where they should.

 

[YI 457]

With DC’s “Suicide Squad” about to release, everyone’s eyes are on the world’s favorite villain, Harley Quinn. Unlike other supervillains, she has a bright, outgoing personality and isn't too shy to start casual conversation in the midst of a fight. However, there is one thing everyone needs to learn from our light-hearted bad girl: no one should ever strive to have a relationship even remotely like that of the Joker and Harley Quinn.

Source.

 

[Cybermorph]

I can't believe people actually need to be told this. It's mind-blowing how easily dullards are influenced by movies and TV shows. Someone pointed out that Harley cosplays were happening a year ago. Ostensibly because people liked the aesthetic and pretty colors. What if the movie came out and it was just 90 minutes of Harley kicking puppies? Fans were invested in liking the movie before it even came out.

 

[fcgh vgcf]

k anyways let's get back on topic

 

[deeman]

I don't think any Superhero movie could be worse than Batman vs Superman or any Fantastic Four movie. We will soon see.

 

[ccoinhoarder]

I think the real reason DC makes such shitty movies is they don't get good enough writers to translate those characters onto the screen.

I mean, let's compare:

Captain America= Cheesy Cornball Superhero

Movies= Three solo films which all did very well in the box office, and were well received by audiences. Not to mention has appeared in two team up films which also did phenomenally. Reintroduces the brand to a fresh new audience

Superman= Cheesy Cornball Superhero

Movies= Underwhelming, barely eking out a profit, disliked by many fans. Only really liked by hardcore fans who believe DC can do no wrong

Superman autist reporting in, Snyder's got some issues with Superman. Namely, he has the idea of Superman ass-backwards. All the ham-fisted Jesus and savior imagery doesn't really work, when you realize that Superman's characterization for fuckin' years has been focused on him being a man who happens to have godly powers, not some alien in human skin trying to figure out how human stuff works. I dunno if it's the actor, or the lack of direction, but, Superman in the DCEU has always come across as cold and unfeeling to me. He's not really a character, he's more of a 'force' that you fuck with at your own risk, and there absolutely needs to be a human element to him, as that's what separates him from the absolutely crazy shit that he fights, like Darkseid or even Apocalypse.

You're supposed to like Superman, it's... Not a very difficult concept to understand, I guess. It's not like there's no good Superman comics to work with.

But, hey, this is about Suicide Squad, so sorry for sperging. I feel like putting Harley on Suicide Squad was a mistake, both for the movie and the comics, because SS is supposed to be a way to give C-list villains a chance at having cool moments before they bite the dust, and they're obviously not going to kill her off in any meaningful fashion. I mean, for fucks sakes, the face of Suicide Squad for a while was Captain Boomerang.

 

[Staffy]

Harley Quinn's "randumb" attitude is just off-putting to me. I'd feel I'd just be watching Deadpool if she's around.

 

[Sc4rface]

I don't really care about the movie, in general the overuse of shake cameras, CGI and superfast cuts has turned me off modern action movies. But some of the rants movie reviewers have pushed out have been quite sublime reads. When someone who is a good writer to begin with gets really angry and then starts writing the result tends to be awesome.

Also fat chicks in bad Harlequin cosplay

 

[smellymarine]

Why does everything you like have to have a good review?

Because now we've managed to eliminate patriotism from the young, they need something to attach themselves to, and mass-produced pop culture is right here to save the day!

Seriously, though, it's impressive how much DC/WB have managed to make a pig's ear out of their films. How hard can it be to make a Superman film? Between "It's a bird! It's a plane!", "Truth, justice and the American Way" and the other requisites, all you need is a problem for Superman to punch until it goes away and the thing writes itself. If Skyfall taught us anything, it's that people enjoy a film that has fun with formula. Honestly, I think their best bet would be to sit a scriptwriter down with Grant Morrison for a month or two.

 

[QB 290]

Have DC even made a good movie or comic in the last 10 years anyway? Why is this flop a surprise after Batman VS Superman?