US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

My belief is, the only people doing anything in the GOP are the Freedom Caucus, but I'm sure if they started getting too uppity, one of their children would turn up dead. They don't have what Trump has, which is a private security firm on top of the Presidential secret service.

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The realest nigga in Congress the last several years was Steve King, who got censured, with the Freedom Cuckus there to stick their knives in too. Then the supposedly baste Iowa GOP openly sabotaged his re-election campaign. All because he kept prioritizing immigration reform while everyone else was crowing about how much Democrats were the real racists. That’s how I know what’s real and what’s bullshit.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

The realest nigga in Congress the last several years was Steve King, who got censured, with the Freedom Cuckus there to stick their knives in too. Then the supposedly baste Iowa GOP openly sabotaged his re-election campaign. All because he kept prioritizing immigration reform while everyone else was crowing about how much Democrats were the real racists. That’s how I know what’s real and what’s bullshit.

Yeah but I wonder about that approach. If you are too "real" then you get taken out. So how were you of any use? It seems like some people want to do good, but they then realize how the system works. Do you push hard, then get taken out, accomplishing nothing? Or do you stay in the system and still try to do something within the limited capacity you're given?

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Yeah but I wonder about that approach. If you are too "real" then you get taken out. So how were you of any use? It seems like some people want to do good, but they then realize how the system works. Do you get taken out, accomplishing nothing? Or do you stay in the system and still try to do something within the limited capacity you're given?

Let me know when they actually accomplish something and I’ll get back to you.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Let me know when they actually accomplish something and I’ll get back to you.

Well they're just a handful of people. They are trying to push amendments to the defense spending bill to restrict transgender surgeries and spending to Ukraine. So should they just quit and join the Uniparty since they are of limited effectiveness? Some people might shrug and say "Sure sign me up for Nancy Pelosis stock options mailing list, theres no point in fighting it, it's over. May as well make some money and make out like a bandit. Everythings going to shit anyway, they are too strong."

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

How can someone who's been in a public and leadership role for so long be so fucking weird? As much as Hilary was, it was because she's a trans-dimensional space vampire hobgoblin, not because she was always nervous about being seen.

There’s power to be had by someone being utterly prosaic and straight-faced in a room full of preening egomaniacs. It’s the archetype that both Pence and DeDantis seem to be going for, though neither of them are any good at it.

Pence can’t pull it off because it because he’s too obviously a callous careerist. With DeSantis it’s that he shoots right past reserved into something being visibly wrong with him.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

With DeSantis it’s that he goes past reserved into something being visibly wrong with him.

It is apparent to me that DeSantis does not want to run for President and is being coerced to. Maybe it’s his wife, certain donors, etc. or some combination thereof. He’s a nerd so he’s not used to standing up for himself or regularly engaging with the public. He was fine with a minimal spotlight in Florida but this is the big time and you get the sense he’d rather be anywhere else.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Tucker going for the jugular.

if nothing else good happens from here, at least Tucker slaughtering them was fun

That girl has an arm. That was funny.

seriously I thought that was just going to be some random thing but holy shit she might as well have yelled THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY

 

[Breadbassket]

Well they're just a handful of people. They are trying to push amendments to the defense spending bill to restrict transgender surgeries and spending to Ukraine. So should they just quit and join the Uniparty since they are of limited effectiveness? Some people might shrug and say "Sure sign me up for Nancy Pelosis stock options mailing list, theres no point in fighting it, it's over. May as well make some money and make out like a bandit. Everythings going to shit anyway, they are too strong."

Realistically right now the best thing you can hope for actual right-wing victories are limited ones in the Congress since anything directly anti-Democrat will get swatted down in the Senate easily. The Freedom Caucus to me frankly seems to consist partially of people who are genuine and others who are grifters.

In 2024 if the Republicans somehow get a government trifecta and control the Congress and White House and then do nothing but act as pawns for big business (which has a high chance of happening given past history) it will be clear to all if they are truly useless or not. Political polarization should rise no matter the outcome so that will be fun.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Realistically right now the best thing you can hope for actual right-wing victories are limited ones in the Congress since anything directly anti-Democrat will get swatted down in the Senate easily. The Freedom Caucus to me frankly seems to consist partially of people who are genuine and others who are grifters.

In 2024 if the Republicans somehow get a government trifecta and control the Congress and White House and then do nothing but act as pawns for big business (which has a high chance of happening given past history) it will be clear to all if they are truly useless or not. Political polarization should rise no matter the outcome so that will be fun.

Even if the Republicans were able to take every seat and every position. You are still left only with 10% trying to push for something thats not Uniparty.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I just watched the Blaze interviews. I'm calling it. The last two standing will be Trump and Ramaswamy.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

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Heh.

It does make you think.

Say what you want to about Barack Obitchmade and his limp wrist, but even he wouldn't have stood there like a confused geriatric while something like this happened. This picture just screams "The world has to be ready to move on without us."

 

[ShitLurker]

Someone on Twitter said "actually the overton window has moved to the right"

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If thats the case, can someone direct me to my local Nazi chapter run from the Community hall?

Shit like this is how I know some form of balkanization is the only real option, people live in completely different dimensions at this point and it's utterly incompatible.

The Federal Government may have turned into a corrupt(Arguably always was) joke, but local State Governments can still matain some semblance of order.

Ultimately the Federal Government can only do so much until it is not longer taken seriously because the States have more control on how they govern themselves. You can tell the Feds are losing sway; their psy-ops are largely ignored, the MSM is falling apart at the seams and really the biggest thing the Feds have over the states is the financial system which they are actively losing.

What is a king without subjects? An idiot on a throne. The Government needs us, we don't need them.

Good points. I do expect everything to fall like a deck of cards sooner or later, it just drives me nuts that "the democratic process" is basically in it's last legs in the US and these fuckers instead of trying to disarm the situation just keep throwing fuel in there with absolute abandon. Basically, if you already accept that the US will fracture than this is just everything following it's course and you are right that those states that decide "fuck the central government" should be able to manage, if on the other hand you expect things to simmer down, the whole situation should be driving you up a wall.

And then there is also the factor of what will happen when they steal 2024. Nothing happened in 2020, and nothing happened in the places where 2022 was stolen as well (no, eternal legal processes where somebody is trapped playing badmington with Judges for 5 years to finally "win" absolutely nothing does not count, sorry for Kari). If 2024 is stolen (and I expect it to, the "fortified states" seem plenty fortified and I don't see any of the other states flipping to either side this time) again, will there be actual action or absolute passivity again? What comes after that? Rot and decay till everything just turns to dust? Or hell, even earlier, if Trump gets denied the primary for some bullshit reason.

Also, unlike Trump's first impeachment, the Democrats and their media allies will likely rally around Biden and portray him as a victim of those nasty Republicans (despite all the evidence of his crookedness). It may do more harm than good.

Biden's a good boy who dindu nothin. But it's much simpler than that, if it passes through it's because RINOs are allowing it to go through, if that's the case than it's part of the kabuki theater session, since it won't translate into anything of actual value and they will farm the fuck out of it to show how mean the republicans are for going after poor ol wholesome Joe who really likes kids and that's why he tries to gobble them up in broad daylight while they cry. It also gives a lot of meat for the lugenpress to not have to talk about real problems for a few months. Then chain that with orange man going for the nomination and that's like half a year of not addressing anything real.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Or hell, even earlier, if Trump gets denied the primary for some bullshit reason.

This is the game plan so DeSantis can slip on and facetank the economic crash.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Good points. I do expect everything to fall like a deck of cards sooner or later, it just drives me nuts that "the democratic process" is basically in it's last legs in the US and these fuckers instead of trying to disarm the situation just keep throwing fuel in there with absolute abandon. Basically, if you already accept that the US will fracture than this is just everything following it's course and you are right that those states that decide "fuck the central government" should be able to manage, if on the other hand you expect things to simmer down, the whole situation should be driving you up a wall.

Over balakanization, wasn't there that story a few months ago where a portion of a state was willing to vote to be part of another state? How has that been going?

 

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This is the game plan so DeSantis can slip on and facetank the economic crash.

Yes, quite literally. They already have the articles written. The second it's reasonable to claim to the NPCs that it's "DeSantis's economy" they will suddenly rediscover the concept of recession if not economic depression.

The only wrench in the works is the true believer DSA/progressive types, who literally don't care about money and think true socialism is coming any day now. They probably won't read the memo.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

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That's not Pence, it's Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. This was at a Long Island Fourth of July event.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

That's not Pence, it's Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. This was at a Long Island Fourth of July event.

You're right... in fact the journos have been all over it

Strange News12LongIsland hasn't said a peep about it though.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Over balakanization, wasn't there that story a few months ago where a portion of a state was willing to vote to be part of another state? How has that been going?

Generally there are cases of that sort and of the opposite where a state's districts want to vote out another (Read: Illinois residents trying to remove Chicago/California and all kinds of districts calls to remove or be removed) but of course it never happens.

I wouldn't call that really balkanization more than wet dreams from a political perspective, generally balkanization is neither that peaceful or just solved by a vote.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

That's not Pence, it's Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. This was at a Long Island Fourth of July event.

still pretty good shot, too bad it isn't Pence

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Over balakanization, wasn't there that story a few months ago where a portion of a state was willing to vote to be part of another state? How has that been going?

There are chunks of eastern Oregon and Washington trying to break away and join Idaho (who has said they'll happily take them in, those parts of OR and WA are pretty damned red).

There's not a lot of precedent for it, but then again, long train of abuses and usurpations and so on.

One of the problems people (especially Euros) get confused by is that the U.S. really isn't a super-unified country like a European one. Theoretically it's fifty smaller countries all bound together. Granted, the concept of federalism has taken some serious hits, first from Lincoln (and while I am sympathetic to the issues he faced it's hard for me to not want to slap him for not seeing what was coming down the road) and then later on from FDR and the rise of the federal 'super-gov'.

But the structures are there, waiting. You don't need to cobble together a new government from scratch. The state govs will function just as well as the federal retards and I would wager with fifty percent more efficiency.

The nightmare scenario for statist WEF faggots is one where more than two states tell the feds to go fuck themselves for their latest mandate. The left has already set THAT precedent with their sanctuary city/state faggotry. Nice job fucking the llama, retards.