Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[Georgio Cocklord]

That's what perplexes me. Has it occurred to AGPs that the majority of admirers that are sexually attracted to women are men? A heterosexual woman may find other women beautiful or attractive, but that doesn't mean that they'll schlick the pussies together. AGPs should be expecting more dick offers, solicited or otherwise.

It occurs cause their brains have been so affected by porn it's unreal. Ive gone through that phase, you'll become delusionally obsessed with women right down to the body proportions, tits addiction, facial features, skin texture and even smell. It's all a result of watching women getting dicked especially when lonely. The addiction bar basically breaks and causes this abomination. It's not healthy.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It came as a surprise reading about this. I came of age in the cyberpunk-infused 90s, and thought transhumanism was about replacing your arm with a machine gun, or installing a datajack in your skull. I don't recall any mention of getting your penis inverted and taking drugs so you can dribble hormone cocktails from your nipples.

That's the odd thing about transhumanism.

At first glance, it sounds wonderful because of the possibility of modifying human beings in ways that would serve practical purposes (like say, giving them the ability to breathe and survive underwater so we can colonize the oceans, or giving them the ability to withstand cosmic radiation to make space travel easier).

The point when you realize how horrifying it all is, when you realize that not only do we not know a damned thing about what we're doing, even if we did, we'd waste it on stupid shit like trying to fulfill degenerate sexual fantasies.

 

[fake farts]

Yeah, I always thought transhumanism would be cybernetic enhancements and shit, you know actual cool Luke Skywalker arms. To an extent, we are getting there. Amputee soldiers from our never ending wars are used sometimes as guinea pigs for that stuff, as well as civilians.
Unfortunately, reality is disappointing however, and more than cool cyborg limbs, its going to be healthy bodies as mutilated as a Cenobite, only uglier and smellier.

 

[murph]

Transhumanism is just the eternal coooooooooooooom. Every single one of them.

I hope they rush to freeze themselves. Fucking weirdos.

 

[shameshame]

The insanity of these type of people finally broke me when I found this twitter profile. I couldn't tell if they were a troon or not, but I feel like they must have been. They had this obsession with becoming like this bald, horned "orc" thing that they imagined themself as and commissioned lots of art of themself as it.

They had successfully crowdfunded multiple cosmetic surgeries in the third-world to get themself to look more like this orc thing, like getting implants beneath their skin on their bald head that looked like small horns coming from their skull. And people willingly donated money to this cause, because they had "body dysmorphia" and apparently the only way to solve it was to make themself the orc they always wanted to be.

Genuinely don't know how people don't recognize behavior like this as just extreme mental illness and instead will actively celebrate and encourage it.

 

[Death of an Ego]

I gotta say that it's all the stuff in the OP coupled with the fact that they have enough people lying for them to give anyone a shield from any criticism. Troons and your average transgender are simply lying to themselves. The rest of what I can go on and on and piss myself off about has been said. I'm not all TTD because actual, under the radar as they should be "trans" people have been around in incredibly minute numbers since before my parents were born. The real issue with them is the social clout and shielding they have due to big pharma and activists who would be staring down unemployment if the money train dried. And well, other than suicide ideation tools, that's the solution to the troon problem. You make it unprofitable. The troons themselves never mattered, make the reason for their deviant existence gone, and they will follow.

 

[Ogbomosho]

Yeah, I always thought transhumanism would be cybernetic enhancements and shit, you know actual cool Luke Skywalker arms. To an extent, we are getting there. Amputee soldiers from our never ending wars are used sometimes as guinea pigs for that stuff, as well as civilians.
Unfortunately, reality is disappointing however, and more than cool cyborg limbs, its going to be healthy bodies as mutilated as a Cenobite, only uglier and smellier.

Maybe I remember that dialogue from Deus Ex wrong.

NSF Terrorist 1: That's the difference right there. Just take a look at him.
NSF Terrorist 2: Bad?
NSF Terrorist 1: They cut off his wang, gave him bitch tits.
NSF Terrorist 2: Greta Hermann, right? She's a good soldier. Killed three of our men.
NSF Terrorist 1: They'd have given him a womb if it had improved his dysphoria. If that's how you judge a man - by dysphoria - then eventually it's not about people but upgrades, versions, functionality...
NSF Terrorist 2: All I know is we could use a few mechs for ops like this.
NSF Terrorist 1: Soon as we buy into the cult of the troon, we're just like them.

 

[Rick The Stick]

People talking about transhumanism as if we wouldn't quickly end up in some WH40k nightmare. Which is appropriate considering troons as a whole fill me with transhuman dread

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

People talking about transhumanism as if we wouldn't quickly end up in some WH40k nightmare. Which is appropriate considering troons as a whole fill me with transhuman dread

Having superpowers and ability far beyond normal human body capacity is a thing that needs to be well understood/regulated. But cutting your dick off is worse.

 

[doodoocaca]

Trannyhumanism is what happens when kids who grew up watching ghost in the shell missed the point by a light year and wanted to be the major.

 

[Monolith]

People talking about transhumanism as if we wouldn't quickly end up in some WH40k nightmare. Which is appropriate considering troons as a whole fill me with transhuman dread

Nightmare? I would happily become a 9-foot-tall space racist.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

You know there's no "trans genocide" because if there were, 99% of them would get down on their knees and say "No, wait, it's just a fetish! I'll keep it to myself instead of forcing it on kids, and I'll gladly go by my real name and correct pronouns in public, and wear appropriate clothing and use the right bathroom and locker room, I don't wanna die for some made up shit!"

 

[TruffleSpark]

You know there's no "trans genocide" because if there were, 99% of them would get down on their knees and say "No, wait, it's just a fetish! I'll keep it to myself instead of forcing it on kids, and I'll gladly go by my real name and correct pronouns in public, and wear appropriate clothing and use the right bathroom and locker room, I don't wanna die for some made up shit!"

The ones that wouldn't be able to do that would be the transmedicalists who the mainstream trans movement hates for sometimes being halfway sane. But it makes sense that the transmedicalists aren't pushing insane crap as hard because they actually have something to lose if the pendulum swings the other way. The way mainstream trans people shit on truscums really makes me mad at the internet. The only reason they even got to where they are today is because they coopted transmedicalist ideas about transition being medically necessary rather than just a form of cosmetic surgery. Yet for all their performative victimhood the troons love stamping down on truscums even though by any objective measure the people who transition because they have a pathological need to be the opposite sex are less privileged than the ones who do it as a fetish or a form of narcissistic validation.

I know some people in this forum say there are no good trans people. I'd say there are no sane trans people, but there are some that know they are insane and are doing their best to compensate for that. Learning that these people existed and just how hated they are by the mainstream trans community might have been the thing that convinced me troons are beyond redemption. Just an entire community of bullies larping as victims.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Nightmare? I would happily become a 9-foot-tall space racist.

Thats the problem though see, thats how you get sucked in. Far more people try out to become Astartes than ever end up making it all the way through the trials.
You're more likely to end up a servitor.

 

[SIMIΔN]

we wouldn't quickly end up in some WH40k nightmare

From the moment I...

 

[Mister Mint]

My problem is that they want me to spin the house around while they hold the lightbulb instead of just screwing in the lightbulb.

What I mean is they've got a problem. They're a male (for example), but there's something fucking up in their brain that makes them feel like a woman. I don't have a problem with that part, that's not hard for me to accept as a possible reality, it's all chemicals and if you've got some of the wrong chemicals firing off then you very well may feel female when you're male.

The problem though is that they want to neuter themselves, blast themselves with hormones, get fake tits, and turn their cocks inside-out so they can be a 6' 1" """woman""" with 5 o' clock shadow, and a cunt-adjacent wound that smells like The Body Farm that nobody but fetish-addled degenerates are going to want to fuck... rather than just go to therapy or take a pill to make them feel more at home in their proper body. It's the one situation where we're supposed to listen to the mentally ill and let them diagnose themselves and dictate their own treatment.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

My problem is that they want me to spin the house around while they hold the lightbulb instead of just screwing in the lightbulb.

What I mean is they've got a problem. They're a male (for example), but there's something fucking up in their brain that makes them feel like a woman. I don't have a problem with that part, that's not hard for me to accept as a possible reality, it's all chemicals and if you've got some of the wrong chemicals firing off then you very well may feel female when you're male.

The problem though is that they want to neuter themselves, blast themselves with hormones, get fake tits, and turn their cocks inside-out so they can be a 6' 1" """woman""" with 5 o' clock shadow, and a cunt-adjacent wound that smells like The Body Farm that nobody but fetish-addled degenerates are going to want to fuck... rather than just go to therapy or take a pill to make them feel more at home in their proper body. It's the one situation where we're supposed to listen to the mentally ill and let them diagnose themselves and dictate their own treatment.

It's hard to argue with this overall tbh. The spinning house for a lightbulb joke sounds like a polish joke but ill leave it alone.

 

[Mister Mint]

It's hard to argue with this overall tbh. The spinning house for a lightbulb joke sounds like a polish joke but ill leave it alone.

Correct, it is an old "How many polacks does it take to screw in a light bulb?" joke.

 

[GettrGriftr]

They are a small, obnoxious [minority] who are being propped up by the corporate and political establishment for who knows what fucking purpose.

I may be late with this observation, do just mark me as such if I am, but the establishment props them up because they are destabilising agents. I know this sounds all Alex Jones-ey, but if you're an elite and you want to maintain your perversions and lusts for power and control unknown and non discussed in a world where information has (had) become much more democratised, then you need useful idiots to destabilise society and divert attention away from you and onto the degeneracy of others. The sudden explosion of troons and pooners serve those ends.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

I may be late with this observation, do just mark me as such if I am, but the establishment props them up because they are destabilising agents. I know this sounds all Alex Jones-ey, but if you're an elite and you want to maintain your perversions and lusts for power and control unknown and non discussed in a world where information has (had) become much more democratised, then you need useful idiots to destabilise society and divert attention away from you and onto the degeneracy of others. The sudden explosion of troons and pooners serve those ends.

At some point this has to happen somewhere. Useful idiots yadda yadda yadda.