Young men reveal why so many of them are single: ‘Dates feel more like job interviews’

From: https://nypost.com/2023/03/01/rate-of-single-men-in-the-us-looking-for-dates-has-declined/

They’re single but they’re not mingling.

New data from the Pew Research Center has shown that 63% of men under 30 are single – up from 51% in 2019.

COVID isolation and women’s high expectations for something serious are the main reasons they’re avoiding going out and coupling up, young guys say.

“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.

“The ‘getting to know you’ period is gone and that doesn’t feel so great after coming out of isolation.”

He recalled a recent first date that went quite well until the woman interrogated him on their walk home.

“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.

Experts agree that women are certainly wanting more than ever before.

“The overall picture [is] that if a woman is going to go on a date with a man, chances are it’s not for a casual fling,” Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, told The Post.

“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family,” he added.

Breslow isn’t looking to settle down and get married anytime soon, so he’d rather have casual flings.

“The way dating is currently just makes me want to hook up locally with no stress or strings attached,” he says. “Fortunately that part comes very easy … I’m unmotivated to search for something serious for the time being.”

Ian Breslow said the face of dating has changed greatly since COVID.
Andrew Bruno, a 28-year-old nurse from Bellmore, NY, says flirting in the post-COVID era just isn’t as fun as it once was.

“Being able to naturally approach people while out isn’t like it was pre-pandemic. People are still much less likely to leave their groups or cliques at a bar,” said Bruno. “They’re certainly less talkative and that’s lowered my incentive to put myself out there.”

He also said the pandemic, more than ever before, made dating apps the central means for meeting people — and he’s not a fan.

“That just really isn’t my style. Like there is a weekslong prerequisite before you can think about getting involved, even for casual things,” Bruno said. “I’d rather take all that effort and put it towards my career.”

And, like Breslow, he’s in no hurry to get hitched.

Andrew Bruno feels that people have become less approachable while out since COVID.
“I’m also still very young,” Bruno said. “I don’t feel the need to rush, especially if people don’t act as naturally as they did before COVID. Why would I put it all out there for someone who can’t or won’t hold a conversation?”

For Mike M., a 25-year-old in Queens, it’s his — not the opposite sex’s — social skills that are still battling a bad case of long COVID.

“I definitely can’t walk into a room and go talk to someone I’m interested [in] like I used to be able to. It feels like my outgoingness has suffered some atrophy,” Mike, who withheld his last name out of embarrassment, told The Post.

He’s also having less sex than he did pre-pandemic.

“I have definitely been going online to take care of my urges more than I have by seeing people,” Mike admitted.

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He feels as though he lost two prime years in his early 20s of being able to date and have fun without worrying about being in a serious relationship.

Now, he’s under pressure to find a long-term commitment, but can’t put himself out there.

“I also feel like I’m caught between two worlds,” he said. “Ultimately I’ve just been crashing and have had neither lately.”
 
I'm not saying you are disingenuous more that the argument implications are disingenuous. It implies men haven't done anything but point fingers.
'implications' are your projection. pointing fingers was used in place of externalizing the cause of ones own actions being the causal result of substituting percentages of the opposite sex's group for the majority. classical example arguments: i want a relationship but all women are whores so there's no reason to marry one. i want a relationship but all men are rapists so you should never marry one. both examples point fingers at the other sex to externalize the lack of a relationship and neither solve the issue. they propagate the issue as more people hear, read, and repeat the arguments. it will always be hilarious watching people take relationship advice from individuals unable to participate in functional relationships.

as for the rest of the post. the article is about the dating scene. if you want to do some rhetoric and debate about the tangential subjects pick one of the other commentators in the thread.
 
There's not much context, I was trying to be nice and proper with this girl. She ends up talking to some other dude, he invites her over, they bang, and she suddenly has a boyfriend that she likes... and he had a fucked up grill.

I'll also say I do it to myself, because nice guys do finish last, but I also do believe that sex is closer to an end goal than an early experience. Unfortunately, "yo bebe, you want some fuck?" works a lot better than you'd expect.
Don't be a nice guy. Don't identify as a nice guy. Nice guy is code word for passive aggressive beta cuck.
Watching this thread with all my popcorn ready.
As am I. Been a while since we had a good, boys vs. girls pig fight.
 
Lol I think I impressed a lot of my partners by telling them that I have niche internet notoriety by bullying a retarded man in Virginia while wearing a pickle suit.
ITT nobody read this article literally fuckboys crying that women wont play along anymore and demand a ring on the finger before getting laid. You fuckers shitted on women for casual sex now you got what you asked for women not fucking anyone who doesnt want to get married . Enjoy,
 
you say this then go on a tirade about hobbies
This might be mind-blowing to you, but your mentality informs and modifies your habits and vice versa. If you stay inside all day jerking off and watching anime, your mentality and overall life satisfaction will suffer. If you do something productive or socially stimulating, it will change how you prioritize things and make you a genuinely more pleasant person to be around. While this doesn't just apply to the ladies, it definitely includes them. They've been hardwired by thousands of years or evolution to sniff out maladjusted men and reject them as mates.
 
This might be mind-blowing to you, but your mentality informs and modifies your habits and vice versa. If you stay inside all day jerking off and watching anime, your mentality and overall life satisfaction will suffer. If you do something productive or socially stimulating, it will change how you prioritize things and make you a genuinely more pleasant person to be around. While this doesn't just apply to the ladies, it definitely includes them. They've been hardwired by thousands of years or evolution to sniff out maladjusted men and reject them as mates.
Get a zoom group going and we can just start making monkey noises and screaming like retards. It’s a healthy hobby I swear!
 
This might be mind-blowing to you, but your mentality informs and modifies your habits and vice versa. If you stay inside all day jerking off and watching anime, your mentality and overall life satisfaction will suffer. If you do something productive or socially stimulating, it will change how you prioritize things and make you a genuinely more pleasant person to be around. While this doesn't just apply to the ladies, it definitely includes them.
Not really. Your hobbies only influence you to the extent that you let them. No shit will not doing anything at all have a negative effect on you. Productivity is always beneficial and has nothing to do with being pleasant. Social stimulation is another thing entirely
They've been hardwired by thousands of years or evolution to sniff out maladjusted men and reject them as mates.
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Not really. Your hobbies only influence you to the extent that you let them. No shit will not doing anything at all have a negative effect on you. Productivity is always beneficial and has nothing to do with being pleasant. Social stimulation is another thing entirely

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Top right is James Holmes. Before he went on his shooting rampage he was a neurobiology PHD student with an documented IQ somewhere around 140. Psychopath absolutely, but how the hell is that low IQ?
 
Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.
Breslow isn’t looking to settle down and get married anytime soon, so he’d rather have casual flings.

“The way dating is currently just makes me want to hook up locally with no stress or strings attached,” he says. “Fortunately that part comes very easy … I’m unmotivated to search for something serious for the time being.”

Andrew Bruno, a 28-year-old nurse from Bellmore, NY,
“I’m also still very young,” Bruno said. “I don’t feel the need to rush,

Mike M., a 25-year-old in Queens
Now, he’s under pressure to find a long-term commitment, but can’t put himself out there.

Ok so basically these are three retards with arrested development who are just the male equivalent of girls who ride the cock carousels.

Real fucking losers.
 
A friend of mine gave me solid dating advice years ago and it gave great results even though it sounds retard-simple:

Go out for coffee on the first date. That's it, that's all, just share a cup of coffee together. No fancy meal, no grandiose spectacle, no pressure. Just coffee and conversation. Keep it light. Get to know each other a little. Don't be an asshole. Offer to walk her to her car when either or both of you decide it's time to go. Ask her out for a real second date if you want to see her again. She'll either say yes or she won't. If she says no, keep it nice. Say goodnight like a normal human being.

I thought that was a date.
 
Ok so basically these are three retards with arrested development who are just the male equivalent of girls who ride the cock carousels.
That would be guys who stick with the same low-paying job hoping for a promotion. There is really no direct comparable: men's value is not derived from their sex. As much as you and I probably hate it, they're still getting everything they want. They're not really losing out on anything and probably won't. Fucking De Niro just had his latest child and he's a fossil.
 
Not even a question of employment - it's a question of mentality.

I think it's beyond mentality now for most guys. You now have to look at the situation. Historically only 40% of guys procreated, while 80% of the Women did. Considering now in the US we are at 50% unemployment, and under 36% of young males are in a relationship. I think we are in a situation where most of the girls are sitting there watching their dating apps. Rolling the dice, hoping for a critical hit, for years and years. While the number of friends guys say they have is dropping as well.

I'm sure many people in this thread have anecdotal stories of friends or even themselves. But looking at the numbers it's pretty grim now. I think we are just going to keep seeing male suicides climb.
 
Lol I think I impressed a lot of my partners by telling them that I have niche internet notoriety by bullying a retarded man in Virginia while wearing a pickle suit.

To think you got a date with a semi-attractive woman just to get beat out by some guy in a goofy costume has got to be one of the most humiliating things ever. But knowing who this is, I don't think he's capable of feeling humiliation.
Ok so basically these are three retards with arrested development who are just the male equivalent of girls who ride the cock carousels.

Real fucking losers.
Almost 30 and still stuck in the "fuck random bitches" phase that Elliot Rodger basically masturbated to the idea of being in. Gentlemen, it's time to pack up the college fratboy life already.

Funny thing is I knew a guy in his late 30s who has this thing for "barely legal" chicks (he's probably mid 40s now). Doubt he's actually slept with any considering how awful of a human being he was, maybe I'll tell that story someday.
 
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