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[PandaChai]

I look forward to the top of the site lit up with flashing lights and klaxons screaming across every page that:

ALIENS CONFIRMED TO EXIST! INDISPUTABLE FOOTAGE SHOWN LIVE IN CONGRESSIONAL HEARING!

But of course I'm not holding my breath

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

NewsNation seems to be in the middle on the cusp of the hearing, as in theyre still being evasive with language but thats to be expected, if theyre evasive they arent on the hook as much
more "ex" people saying they "hope" and "expect" new infomation, and of course more videos about how the lawmakers are pushing for things to be declassified etc
"Ex-intelligence official expects new information to come from UFO hearing | CUOMO"
the first comment is-
"Please share these news segments to everyone, shift the paradigm and remove the stigma"
yes, share it around, itll change the world and aliens will reveal themselves be our best friends forever we will all sing space kumbaya together

"Lawmakers push to get answers about UFOs in upcoming hearing | On Balance"
Bill O'Riley comes in shortly after the first little part and basically says a lot of the stuff we have been saying
i dont know a lot about Bill but atleast in that segment he was speaking a lot of fact, he made a large number of very good points
he will "listen to this UFO stuff" but he is "sceptical at this junction", and goes into many many reasons as to why he feels that way, worth a watch

edit: some noteable comments that made me laugh
"Doesn’t Bill sound like a someone hiding under a rock! Such a closed mind- that’s not a sceptic, that’s ignorant"
"Being skeptical is one thing, but being uniformed and stubborn in you own ignorance is another. Bill O'Rielly is the last person I whose opinion I would trust on anything."

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The best part about Cuomo is that ayylmaos are the only thing that can revive his failing media career:

https://fortune.com/2023/07/14/meet-the-little-known-cable-tv-network-thats-cashing-in-on-renewed-interest-in-ufos-aden-ikram/

https://archive.today/LfOex

The startup channel’s marquee talent is ex-CNN host Chris Cuomo. Even he admits he’s embarrassed by his NewsNation show’s ratings, according to the NY Post, which also reported the show averaged 63,000 viewers per night compared to the approximately 1 million for Cuomo’s CNN show.

However, could UFO-Alien disclosure be the pivotal moment, like CNN’s war coverage, to change all that?

If Big Dicksclosure happens, Cuomo will be talking about aliens every night for the rest of his life.

https://www.thewrap.com/joe-rogan-newsnation-seems-fake-ufo-obsession/

https://archive.ph/sTxpi

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

@The Mass Shooter Ron Soye that doesnt surprise me at all, if you look at NewsNation videos, all the videos non-alien related only have 500-1000 views
i put a red square on all the UFO/UAP type videos, youll notice they run numbers whilst the others dont in the attachment
this thewrap article is a wild read, i havent watched Joe as much since he moved to Spotify i only see his clips now on youtube
here are some of my favourite parts of it, if you dont remember, Joe isnt a fan of Cuomo who is their star anchor, it started with beef between CNN anchors and Joe over covid and culture war stuff, IIRC Joe put Cuomo on blast for faking coming out of quarantine and that really sealed the deal, he mocked the shit out of Chris and it was very funny, must have stung a bit
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“Is NewsNation a real channel?” Rogan continued.

“I was watching NewsNation today, and I may or may not have been high,” he said. “And I was like, ‘This has all the feeling of like, fake news that someone put together. Like, it felt like, if I was the government, and I was gonna make a news show without Hollywood people, without actual real sound people or engineers, this is how I’d make it – like this. I’d make it real funky, I’d make the lights all fucked up, and I’d make everybody weirdly un-charismatic.”

“The thing about this NewsNation – they’re spending an inordinate amount of time on UFOs,” he said on the episode released Wednesday. “An inordinate amount of time on this David Grusch case and I’m increasingly more suspicious. I’m increasing more skeptical. The more I see people confirming it, I’m thinking something’s not right. And then to see that this channel is the one that’s covering it the most – I’m like, this seems like … something seems … something’s off.”

“I want to talk to the guy that sees the ship,” Rogan said. “That’s it. No one else. Until then, I just feel like I’m being hosed. It seems to be laid out on a platter.”

i agree, show us those god damn aliens David!!!!!!
Joe is finally doubting an alien story, it may have taken his hatred for Chris Cuomo for him to be sceptical

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

cannot edit my last post, apologies for double post
David Grusch has given his first and final statements to the gov ahead of time, it looks as if before the event, you must give them X Y Z so they can upload it for the public record i guess?
it is sadly very boring, due to it just being opening/closing, but here it is
i cut the only real interesting parts into text, and made a full image for people who dont trust PDF formats which is totally fair at the moment

"I became a Whistleblower, through a PPD-19 Urgent Concern filing with the Intelligence
Community Inspector General (ICIG), following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and
credentialed current and former military and Intelligence Community individuals that the US
Government is operating with secrecy - above Congressional oversight - with regards to UAPs.

My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track
record of legitimacy and service to this country – many of whom also shared compelling
evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony.

It is with a heavy heart and a determined spirit that I stand, under oath, before you today, having
made the decision based on the data I collected, and reported, to provide this information to the
committee. I am driven in this duty by a conviction to expose what I viewed as a grave
congressional oversight issue and a potential abuse of executive branch authorities."

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_G_HOC_Speech_FINAL_For_Trans.pdf

edit: i have been browsing reddit and youtube, and people REALLY seem absolutely certain that David is going to name names tomorrow
if David doesnt name names tomorrow, we might have to start clipping reddit for hilarious cope, because everybody's arguments are based on David naming names and being 100% legit
the amount of people who are not even remotely doubting all this is truly incredible, i havent seen people like this since the 2017 article
if David doesnt bring the goods, sure, itll be a let down, but boys, i think we are going to have really fun extreme cope to read from skitzo's

 

[F_Break]

There's some last minute fuckery with tomorrow's hearing. Burchette (on his personal account) tweeted that he was just informed that he won't be chairing the hearing. Rep. Robert Garcia will be the one running it. I don't know if this is some committee drama that will have little impact on the content of the hearing or if this is a desperate attempt to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

edit: i have been browsing reddit and youtube, and people REALLY seem absolutely certain that David is going to name names tomorrow
if David doesnt name names tomorrow, we might have to start clipping reddit for hilarious cope, because everybody's arguments are based on David naming names and being 100% legit

Nuance is lost on a topic like this? Say it ain't so.

Attached are the David Fravor and Ryan Graves statements from here:

https://oversight.house.gov/hearing/unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-implications-on-national-security-public-safety-and-government-transparency/

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

NewsNation had on Michael Shellenberger, and he is saying "there could be 3 more witnesses" but emphasised "could"
the reason they have said this is because they said, in the past, witnesses have sometimes come to the hearing in surprise, so their names were never at risk of being leaked
they dont seem to be basing this 3 more witnesses possibility on anything that was said, just that in the past, to protect themselves, some witnesses would pull out, then arrive on the day
he has also confirmed the Robert Garcia is going to be in charge of the hearing, but he also mentions this was said last week
he also mentioned the claims that this is all a disinformation campaign which made me chuckle lol
so if you hear any of this "could be 3 more witnesses", the above is what they mean. its "possible", nobody has been told "they might be coming, get ready!"

 

[RadioactiveMonkeyMan]

David doesnt name names tomorrow, we might have to start clipping reddit for hilarious cope, because everybody's arguments are based on David naming names and being 100% legit
the amount of people who are not even remotely doubting all this is truly incredible

Even if he's telling the truth the names would be classified and only spoken in the closed session anyways. So, yeah. Get your screenshot finger ready because the saltiness is going to happen either way lol.

IF any of it's true and there's an insistence to do it all cleanly and under control, it'd be a good 4-6+ years before anything of substance comes out. Look at the Manhattan project, wasn't common knowledge til they dropped 'em on Japan some 8 years after the project started.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Missed this one.

https://twitter.com/MetaStudioLogic/status/1683971149280210948

I think Shellenberger might have another article later today but I don't see it yet.

Edit: Here it is.

https://public.substack.com/p/alleged-death-threats-against-ufo

https://archive.ph/PvAq7

https://www.premierchristianity.com/features/why-its-time-for-christians-to-take-ufos-seriously/15974.article

https://archive.ph/LBuX6

 

[CoolFool]

Can a kind kiwi provide live updates of the briefing whenever it starts? Some of us can't listen to audio while at work.

Not that I'm expecting anything new to be revealed. But still... I'm going to be wondering the whole time I'm at work what is being said.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

They keep mentioning pilots going to Hawaii seeing a lot of UAPs.

Grusch says he knows the exact locations of UAPs in the retrieval program, and that he interviewed over 40 witnesses over 4 years.

In a moment of levity Burchett reveals today is the 9 year anniversary of his marriage.

Grusch did not go into details of his harassment due to his ongoing complaint. Also says harm/murder to others has been reported to the appropriate people.

Graves says incidents are reported everywhere the Navy operates. Talks about the cubes inside spheres.

Grusch says "certain senior leadership" at previous agencies he worked at are involved in reprisals against himself and others. He calls it "administrative terrorism". Fravor and his colleagues on the other hand were "treated really well".

Grusch has personally feared for his life. Grusch briefed Kirkpatrick about his concerns in April 2022.

Graves is talking about Boeing contractors seeing a 100 yard "football field" sized UAP in 2003 at Vandenberg Air Force Base.

Commercial pilots have received cease and desist orders from corporations.

Grusch has met directly with people with first-hand knowledge of the programs. Alleges misappropriation of funds, and confirms that certain corporations are overcharging.

Some old fossil named Ms. Foxx is soapboxing about the Chinese balloons.

Graves is working with the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics on setting up a "UAP integration committee".

They are talking about the classification.

Grusch has spent 11.5 hours in the secret briefings. Now AOC is up. Grusch has all the specifics, and he can divulge them to you in a closed setting (only).

Biggs is asking about the Phoenix Lights.

Grusch knows (personally?) multiple people injured by UAPs. Grusch seems to have seen the spacecraft (I assume photos), not the bodies. He's asked why they crash, and the interdimensionality, is talking about the "Holographic Principle".

Gaetz is talking about the Eglin Air Force Base incident again. Says UAP(s) caused pilot's sensors to malfunction. Graves is talking about the Gimbal video not showing a fleet of objects.

Graves estimates only 5% of UAP sightings are reported. Grusch can't discuss whether or not the government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials in a public setting. Grusch confirms "non-human" "biologics" came with some of the crash recoveries, and that info is from people still in the programs. He will provide lists of cooperative and HOSTILE witnesses that Congress can talk to after the hearing.

Langworthy drills into Fravor's tic tac story. Ogles ask about the UAPs probing nuclear facilities, and the Department of Energy. Ogles will initiate the "Holman rule" if they are denied access.

Grusch says YES to having personal knowledge of someone being injured while working on legacy UAP reverse engineering. Says there are people working in the programs willing to testify behind closed doors.

Grusch wants scholarship on the UN treaty talking about how to avoid accidental war over a UAP incident.

Closing remarks.

 

[CoolFool]

Thanks for the transcript. Can you tell how the people there are reacting? Like are they taking this seriously or are they acting like this is bs?

 

[Ookoo Squad]

Thanks for the transcript. Can you tell how the people there are reacting? Like are they taking this seriously or are they acting like this is bs?

They seem to be taking it pretty seriously.

Grusch stated that he could, in a closed setting, reveal exact names and locations involved with the possession of ayylmao shit.

 

[axeltrite]

Gaetz also said that he personally saw photos of an object that appeared to be of non-human origin.

 

[Flan Handler]

I have such dissonance today. This is a topic I've been interested in most of my life, but I also hate the government with the fire of a thousand suns.

I don't know if I'm infuriated that this has been kept from humanity (if true) or happy that it's being taken seriously, or suspicious that it's yet another gay op.

Glad to be watching it with you guys. Any way it goes, this is far more interesting than any of the other psyops being run on us at the moment.

 

[poopshoes]

I watched the entire thing and it was well worth it, ofc no new actual evidence was presented but I am hoping as this is the beginning of figuring out just what the fuck these things are and what our government has been doing in secret for so long now.

That being said, I also am left with a very uneasy feeling that once/if we find out what's been going on and what these are, its going to be a very bizarre and terrifying realization for humanity.

 

[MrJokerRager]

https://poa.st/@Jim/posts/AY5pigvzRXUhDwQGeW

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I don't know if I'm infuriated that this has been kept from humanity (if true) or happy that it's being taken seriously, or suspicious that it's yet another gay op.

The people responsible for setting things in motion in the 40s-50s are likely dead. I lean towards happy, and I'll get happier as more info leaks out, if some of these people get cuffed/subpoenaed, and if we get some alien-derived technologies on the market. Hopefully, we can get angry at specific people (such as George H.W. Bush) from specific times, if the disinformation campaign is laid out in detail stretching from the 1940s to today. It may not be possible to reconstruct every little crime or coverup that happened if the records were destroyed.

Muh psyop, gayop, distraction? It looks like certain people did not want the current situation. Especially people from the US Air Force. Stargate SG-1 meme value will skyrocket. Even this hearing itself was supposedly obstructed, if you believe Burchett was not being a complete bumbling retard.

I'm hoping for a sudden cascade of leaks and of course a prime time statement from the geriatric-in-chief within the month, but it looks like most additional whistleblowers will do what Grusch suggested and go through the closed door process, and this will be stretched out. The massively increased public scrutiny could embolden them to not fear retaliation, at least.

Even with the lack of new info, the hearing ran smoothly and resulted in a lot of good advice given by the witnesses. Our autist Grusch laid out some highly jargon-filled explanations that could be useful to somebody out there, the part about the UAP treaty for example. Some smooth brains are going to be mad at his "I can't say in this setting" answers, but those were potentially revealing on their own. "Has the government made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? THAT'S CLASSIFIED, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT IN A CLOSED SESSION."

Other crap to think about:

• Aliens may be able to crush us, but haven't aside from a handful of casualties, and now we have some of their technology? Is there a "red line" we can't cross or are they depositing gifts?
• Other countries can jump in here at any time. Go ahead, spoil the slow US-led Disclosure process. Please hack some emails again, Russia.
• It sure would be funny if the bloated Space Launch System was funneling billions into secret programs.

 

[Ookoo Squad]

• Other countries can jump in here at any time. Go ahead, spoil the slow US-led Disclosure process. Please hack some emails again, Russia.

"Take us to your leader". I absolutely want that leader to be the Prince of Lichtenstein or the president of Malawi or something just as ridiculous, just for the lol potential. "Yeah, back in the 30s it turned out the ayylmaos initiated dialogue with Earth, but it was with the Lichtensteinian government and they've just been quiet about it ever since".