Disaster Family Who Died Trying to Live 'Off the Grid' Told Loved Ones About Their Plan: 'We Tried to Stop Them' - Before leaving, they "watched some YouTube videos" about "how to live off the grid," a family member said

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A family member of two sisters and a teen whose bodies were discovered "fairly mummified" in a remote Colorado campsite earlier this month said their deaths should serve as a warning: living in the wilderness without proper experience can be deadly.

On Tuesday, the Gunnison County Coroner's Office identified the individuals as Rebecca Vance, 42, Christine Vance, 41, as well as Rebecca’s 14-year-old son, according to a statement obtained by PEOPLE.

Trevala Jara, Rebecca and Christine's stepsister, told The Washington Post that the decision to "live off the grid" was made as Rebecca's fears about the world intensified.

"She didn’t like the way the world was going, and she thought it would be better if her and her son and Christine were alone, away from everybody," Jara, 39, told the newspaper. "She didn’t want the influences of the world to get to them. She really thought she was protecting her family."

Although Christine wasn't always planning on going, Jara told The New York Times she decided to come along "because she thought that if she was with them, they had a better chance of surviving."

“We tried to stop them. But they wouldn’t listen," she said while speaking with The Washington Post.

Not knowing where they planned on going, Jara told The Los Angeles Times that she asked Christine to send postcards to let her know they were safe, but the postcards never came.

Gunnison County Coroner Michael Barnes told The Colorado Sun that he believed that possibly malnutrition and "exposure to the elements" through a harsh winter last year contributed to their deaths, though current analyses on their cause of death are still pending.

The autopsy reports are still incomplete, and the office is awaiting a toxicology report, per The Los Angeles Times. Barnes also expressed concern about carbon monoxide poisoning, citing evidence that the family attempted to stay warm by burning materials, including vegetation in soup cans, inside their tent.

"At this point it appears that these three individuals began long term camping at the location near Gold Creek Campground in (approximately) mid-late July last Summer 2022 and attempted to stay through the winter," he told The Colorado Sun and CNN. He did not say when he believed they possibly could have died.

A hiker discovered one of the "heavily decomposed" bodies about 1,000 feet from a site near the Gold Creek Campground around 4:57 p.m. on June 9, according to the sheriff’s office. The bodies were discovered in a dark patch of timber, Gunnison County Sheriff Adam Murdie told The Colorado Sun.

The Gunnison County Sheriff’s Office went on to note that investigators “located the campsite and discovered two additional heavily decomposed deceased individuals within the campsite.”

Speaking with The New York Times, Jara said that Rebecca had "good intentions," but she was plagued with fears, which worsened during the pandemic.

"The fear overwhelmed her, most definitely," Jara told The Washington Post. "I did feel a shift in her."

Before they left, Jara told The Washington Post that the family "watched some YouTube videos" about "how to live off the grid" but had "no experience."

“YouTube and the internet is not enough,” Jara added while speaking with The Los Angeles Times.

She went on to tell the newspaper that she and her husband even tried to persuade them to use their RV and generator in the mountains as a test run. The idea appealed to Christine but not to Rebecca, who was certain they could "live on their own," Jara told the newspaper.

"[Rebecca] really thought she was saving her son and Christine by living by themselves and being off the grid," Jara added. "I really did not think it was going to get this far."

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The autopsy reports are still incomplete, and the office is awaiting a toxicology report, per The Los Angeles Times. Barnes also expressed concern about carbon monoxide poisoning, citing evidence that the family attempted to stay warm by burning materials, including vegetation in soup cans, inside their tent.
Please don't do this if you go camping.
 
‘don’t even try to live off grid, slaves.’
These three were clearly having some kind of lockdown induced breakdown. No experience, insufficient kit, in a harsh environment is going to kill you.
Living off grid would be great, but it takes planning and experience and knowledge
 
And a bailout plan should things go badly, which they often will if you're basing your whole living strategy on retarded YouTubers.
It’s something I have always had a slight hankering for - bugger off to applecross or somewhere like that and live in a Croft.
I think if I was younger I might still try but I’d want a strong bloke with me. I grow my own veg, I can fix a lot of stuff, I can make clothes, equipment etc and even then I’m aware that being totally self sufficient is very hard to do. There’s a lot of planning, and a lot of skills needed to set up and maintain own power, water and food supply.
I admire anyone who can do it. I just try to be a tiny bit less dependent on the main system and enjoy picking up older skills. This winter I’m going to have a crack at learning wood carving. But I’m aware that’s hobby level, and that trying to survive isn’t so easy.
 
The amount of asinine stupidity I've seen from people about basic outdoor skills is mind-blowing. I've seen groups of people going out on long high desert hikes with only a couple tiny bottles of water for the whole group, going camping in the winter with no idea how to start a fire or gather firewood, going camping in the winter with Walmart sleeping bags, keeping food in the tent because it's bear county, starting bon fires or setting off fireworks in grassy areas on hot windy days, and drinking water from a still pond to name a few. I'm fucking amazed our species has not only managed to survive, but thrive.
 
The amount of asinine stupidity I've seen from people about basic outdoor skills is mind-blowing.
I was once coming off a nine day hike in New Zealand so was near the trail end. Pissing it down with rain in that special ‘solid water is falling from the sky’ way inly west coast NZ can really do. Soaked to the skin, but all contents of backpack safe and secure in dry bags.
Saw a chopper, oh dear, someone being rescued. Two Israelis wearing flipflops who were four hours into a nine day hike. No waterproofs, no boots, no food and a supermarket 500ml water bottle each. The lads flying the chopper looked like they were about to chuck them back out.
I’ve also seen several people be pulled off even smaller mountains in the UK who set off in bad weather in trainers and a cardigan. People are amazingly dumb about the outdoors, probably because we don’t go in it enough to realise that exposure will kill you fast.
If you ever chat to someone who’s done mountain rescue, they will have dozens of similar stories.
 
So it's a story about two women that went camping and died of a stupid mistake that has nothing to do with the wilderness, and the journalist is making it an attack story on the concept of being off-grid and escaping city hellscapes?
Really makes you think.
Pretty much. You'd think they be pushing the opposite programming, just to get the homeless to migrate out of their neighborhoods.

Anyway, I'd like to see how many people die from trying to live in "Tiny Homes" that they built themselves for $250K.
 
The lads flying the chopper looked like they were about to chuck them back out.
I'm a bong in rural NZ, and the number of people I've seen heading into the bush with less gear than I take to the fucking supermarket makes me wish we had bears.

I'm amazed our species has lasted this fucking long.
 
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