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few weeks ago a woman saw a fake person on a airplane, and she went crazy and now the US government says there is proof of UFOs. Kiwibros, it all makes sense now
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Some interesting stuff posted on or gleaned from r/UFOs:
A 1940s patent for a cube-shaped radar reflector inside a balloon. [archive]
ONR guy says the cubes are balloons they would launch for oceanographic surveys and such, claims the fleet ignored ONR's notices and sailed through their test ranges. He says they would turn one off and turn another on to look like one object moving at high speed. (Honestly, my first reaction to Fravor's testimony that it traveled 60 miles in one minute was how do you know it's the same object.) Sometimes they would break free from their moorings and give off bizarre radar returns as they floated away and their batteries slowly died. There's a link to a YouTube video he says is similar to what he handled. No sphere, unfortunately. [archive]
Same guy saying the same thing four months ago. [archive]
And he was saying it a year ago. [archive]
A 1940s patent for a cube-shaped radar reflector inside a balloon. [archive]
ONR guy says the cubes are balloons they would launch for oceanographic surveys and such, claims the fleet ignored ONR's notices and sailed through their test ranges. He says they would turn one off and turn another on to look like one object moving at high speed. (Honestly, my first reaction to Fravor's testimony that it traveled 60 miles in one minute was how do you know it's the same object.) Sometimes they would break free from their moorings and give off bizarre radar returns as they floated away and their batteries slowly died. There's a link to a YouTube video he says is similar to what he handled. No sphere, unfortunately. [archive]
Same guy saying the same thing four months ago. [archive]
And he was saying it a year ago. [archive]
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Guys, come on. Let's be reasonable here.
Occams Razor clearly points to extra-dimensional chink fairies from parallel universes who really enjoy fresh beef and anal probing.
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The insinuation that the government has been keeping alien biological material hidden from the academic world for 50+ years makes me so irrationally angry. Even if they have their own internal research program - there is no goddamn way they have the man power and expertise to be effective about it - whereas institutional collaborations of biochemists, physiologists, geneticists, etc. would literally orgasm at the amount of data they could collect, even from dead tissue. Suppose the government does have loads of data but isn't publishing it - they could be missing interdisciplinary answers to very real problems they don't realize because they aren't outsourcing the brainpower for other perspectives. Additionally, there could be brilliant civilian scientists wasting their careers on dead-end projects right now because the government withheld samples/information that might be infinitely useful in their field.
On the other hand, if the government is bullshitting all of this, they're smart to only release technological smoke and mirrors in piecemeal. If they try to fake alien biology, they're gonna slip up. They might get away with releasing photos of fake bodies for awhile, but researchers are going to start asking for tissue samples. If they do decide to release fake samples/data, they will almost certainly get caught, maybe not before wasting billions of NIH/NSF funding in grants for independent experiments based on lies.
On the other hand, if the government is bullshitting all of this, they're smart to only release technological smoke and mirrors in piecemeal. If they try to fake alien biology, they're gonna slip up. They might get away with releasing photos of fake bodies for awhile, but researchers are going to start asking for tissue samples. If they do decide to release fake samples/data, they will almost certainly get caught, maybe not before wasting billions of NIH/NSF funding in grants for independent experiments based on lies.
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my man where have you been, where did you come from?! thats some mighty fine digging, this is the first ive seen of this i am ashamed to admit
you know, i thought this might be the case, that it was some kind of floating stationary radar or monitor or some kind
im assuming the "cube" inside the balloon is the tech, and the balloon sphere around it keeps it in the air
i am very happy to have a probable answer to those cube/spheres that have been mentioned sparingly
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I come from Mars, I'm here to deboonk all the UFOs by stealing content from Reddit.
I remembered another one of my reactions to Fravor. I think it was Fravor, it might have been the F-18 guy, probably Fravor. He's talking about showing a video of a UAP to his admiral ("I was the commanding officer"), and the admiral just goes "huh" and walks away. I'm not sure what Fravor got out of that exchange, but it seemed probable to the admiral knew exactly what it was and what to do about it.
A carrier battle group does more than just support the air wing, contrary to what the pilots might believe. It can have other things going on. One of those missions could be a submarine launching secret stuff that pops up over the surface of the water and does things in the air. The admiral would know about that. He'd have words with whoever failed to deconflict the airspace, maybe threaten to throw some glowies overboard. But he wouldn't say anything around officers who weren't cleared for the submarine-pop-up program.
Anyone watch David Grande on YouTube? He has a video titled "UFO Conspiracy Alleged by Vapid Hearsay Whistleblower." The title got me, I'm watching it now. His presentation soothes my autism.
I remembered another one of my reactions to Fravor. I think it was Fravor, it might have been the F-18 guy, probably Fravor. He's talking about showing a video of a UAP to his admiral ("I was the commanding officer"), and the admiral just goes "huh" and walks away. I'm not sure what Fravor got out of that exchange, but it seemed probable to the admiral knew exactly what it was and what to do about it.
A carrier battle group does more than just support the air wing, contrary to what the pilots might believe. It can have other things going on. One of those missions could be a submarine launching secret stuff that pops up over the surface of the water and does things in the air. The admiral would know about that. He'd have words with whoever failed to deconflict the airspace, maybe threaten to throw some glowies overboard. But he wouldn't say anything around officers who weren't cleared for the submarine-pop-up program.
Anyone watch David Grande on YouTube? He has a video titled "UFO Conspiracy Alleged by Vapid Hearsay Whistleblower." The title got me, I'm watching it now. His presentation soothes my autism.
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LOL wow... i dont think i have ever seen his community like this, i HAVE to assume these are just drop-ins from alien communities
i drop in on his channel from time to time, he often chases popular stories and he, atleast, does fair breakdowns of them which i like, he will go against the grain which i also like
screen shots of the top comments of that video, they arent happy with Grandes breakdown of Grusch
all of the fair/supportive comments only have 50-100 likes, whereas the top ones have hundreds
a page or 2 ago this happened in a NewsNation video, where Bill O'Riley was shitting on this new wave, and the comment section was hilarious
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I love the people who think "He swore an oath, he would be punished if he was lying," when their entire belief system is based on the idea that tens of thousands of people who swore oaths are violating them and killing people so they can let contractors overcharge the government to reverse engineer UFOs. Everyone else in the military and intelligence community is a liar liar pants on fire, but Major Autism is the paragon of honesty because everyone knows autistic people can't lie.
Edit: I screwed up his name. It's Todd, not David.
And everyone saying, "He's an intelligence officer, he's trained to discover the truth, we must believe him." I guess they don't remember Tenet's "slam dunk." And that was actually the result of a national intelligence estimate, a high-level analytic product put together by supposed experts. Grusch's rumors and innuendo are not quite at that level.
Edit: I screwed up his name. It's Todd, not David.
And everyone saying, "He's an intelligence officer, he's trained to discover the truth, we must believe him." I guess they don't remember Tenet's "slam dunk." And that was actually the result of a national intelligence estimate, a high-level analytic product put together by supposed experts. Grusch's rumors and innuendo are not quite at that level.
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The Narrative™ pushes UFOs, while before UFO believers were mocked as being "crazy conspiracy theory" believers.
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I've been thinking, and I really do feel like this is all a setup for some sort of Blue Beam plot of one form or another. Maybe it'll just be an excuse to try to get more funding for the Space Force, maybe they'll go all in and use the illusion of "enlightened alien civilizations" to try to push the Great Reset and One World Government. I don't know, and neither possibility feels particularly comfortable to me.
With this thought, I also reached the popular refrain from people brushing off the obvious signs of a psyop: "You got that from a TV show/movie!" This got me thinking, "Why wouldn't TPTB use the plot of a popular movie as part of their NWO scheme?" Normies will be so convinced that nobody would be so stupid as to do a Klaatu Ultimatum because of the movie that those that notice the obvious signs will be brushed off as crackpots too caught up in their Sci-Fi stories to accept the necessity of the Globohomo Federation.
And again, if this Grusch fuck is so genuine, how is he still alive? If the government felt that admitting that aliens exist was so dangerous, why only do it when Democrats are experiencing a nightmare scenario? And the biggest question of them all, where are the bodies?
With this thought, I also reached the popular refrain from people brushing off the obvious signs of a psyop: "You got that from a TV show/movie!" This got me thinking, "Why wouldn't TPTB use the plot of a popular movie as part of their NWO scheme?" Normies will be so convinced that nobody would be so stupid as to do a Klaatu Ultimatum because of the movie that those that notice the obvious signs will be brushed off as crackpots too caught up in their Sci-Fi stories to accept the necessity of the Globohomo Federation.
And again, if this Grusch fuck is so genuine, how is he still alive? If the government felt that admitting that aliens exist was so dangerous, why only do it when Democrats are experiencing a nightmare scenario? And the biggest question of them all, where are the bodies?
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How about: All of the alien stuff is real, and the NWO/Globohomo will prevail because of it. Because of course they would, and they were going to eventually without the aliens. If you suddenly insert technologies potentially more dangerous than nuclear weapons into today's situation, then civil liberties are going to end up being curtailed. With no alien technology, "artificial intelligence" is one of the leading excuses to control what people can do.
One World Government will be technically postponed if there is a Cold War 2 ongoing between US, China, and Russia, all with their own crash retrieval programs. But your freedums will continue to be crushed, as they have been for decades.
As far as we know, US Space Force is currently Chair Force for Satellite Operators, an enlarged but unremarkable spinoff of what was a small division of the US Air Force. If single-stage-to-orbit alien spacecraft become available, yeah their budget is going to quadruple and they will become a much less boring branch of the military.
Whatever forms of intimidation he claims happened to him should be detailed in his whistleblower complaint, but we don't know about it yet. It's said that people inside the program(s) and the Pentagon are unhappy with the status quo, and that's what led to as many as 40 insiders talking to Grusch secretly. Everything was set in motion starting around July 2022 IIRC, any timing with the Bidens being fuckups is merely coincidental. He has given exact locations to the ICIG. Bodies could be moved around, but allegedly there is at least one spacecraft too big to move.
All of this could be settled in a day if the President or his handler threatened to have these places raided, or Congress starts naming the names and threatening to defund things. For now, we wait.
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I probably wouldn't admit to having aliens in my Area 51 rape dungeon regardless of muh congress or muh oath.
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Non-human also means "animal", friends.
Combine all that shit with tech like this and you get weird crap.
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Sean Kirkpatrick getting more angy
Eglin Commander Brigadier General Jeffrey T. Geraghty
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""During an explosive Wednesday hearing before a House Oversight subcommittee, retired Maj. David Grusch, a former Air Force intelligence official, testified about the existence of what he said was a decades-long program to retrieve and reverse-engineer alien craft. In 2019, while on a detail to the National Reconnaissance Office, he said he was tasked with identifying all the classified programs related to a government task force on UFOs.
“I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access,” he said, using the government acronym for unidentified anomalous phenomena.
He also said he had spoken with officials who had direct knowledge of craft with “nonhuman” origins, and that the U.S. government had recovered “biologics” from some of those craft.
Grusch told lawmakers he has faced retaliation for coming forward with his discovery, but would not go into specifics about that retaliation. The U.S. likely has been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s, he said.
But in the memo after the hearing, Kirkpatrick vehemently denied the allegations about the program Grusch described.
“To be clear, AARO has yet to find any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse engineering program for non-human technology,” Kirkpatrick wrote, noting that the whistleblowers have never worked for or acted as a representative to the office.
Kirkpatrick also took issue with Grusch’s comments about the Pentagon and intelligence community.
“I cannot let yesterday’s hearing pass without sharing how insulting it was to the officers of the Department of Defense and Intelligence Community who chose to join AARO, many with not unreasonable anxieties about the career risks this would entail,” he wrote.
He added that “contrary to assertions made in the hearing, the central source of those allegations has refused to speak with AARO.”"
interesting... and here we have the drama begin, who said what, who lied, who truth'd, tune in next week to SpookySpaceBoiz!
what is going against Grusch right now that cant be fixed is that the public will probably never know if he even had answers to give congress in a private setting
so it will be the eternal "trust me bro"
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The New York Post and Mick West discuss the nothingburger, its pretty comprehensive, they have both always been on the sceptic side
"Congress UFO Hearing - It's even crazier than you think"
"UFO Skeptic Mick West joins the Post's Steven Greenstreet to break down the historical Congressional UFO hearing. They discuss the witness testimonies, evidence presented and reveal how one of the witnesses is connected to the ghosts and werewolves of Skinwalker Ranch."
a very in depth look at the hearing and what was said, and a number of things recently mentioned in this thread were featured in this video IE the sphere+cube objects provided by our Martian
i said it before and ill say it again, i still dont know much about The New York Post but i do know their videos on this UFO topic have been on point
one of my favourite takeaways was something i did not know, but Fravors co-pilot said the tic-tac encounter lasted 10 seconds, not 5 minutes
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Grusch with the usual suspects last year at a UFO conference o.0 anyone who isnt suspicious yet needs to take their pills
The New York Post and Mick West discuss the nothingburger, its pretty comprehensive, they have both always been on the sceptic side
"Congress UFO Hearing - It's even crazier than you think"
"UFO Skeptic Mick West joins the Post's Steven Greenstreet to break down the historical Congressional UFO hearing. They discuss the witness testimonies, evidence presented and reveal how one of the witnesses is connected to the ghosts and werewolves of Skinwalker Ranch."
a very in depth look at the hearing and what was said, and a number of things recently mentioned in this thread were featured in this video IE the sphere+cube objects provided by our Martian
i said it before and ill say it again, i still dont know much about The New York Post but i do know their videos on this UFO topic have been on point
one of my favourite takeaways was something i did not know, but Fravors co-pilot said the tic-tac encounter lasted 10 seconds, not 5 minutes
Grusch with the usual suspects last year at a UFO conference o.0 anyone who isnt suspicious yet needs to take their pills
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Kirkpatrick put out that statement on his private LinkedIn account, which is really sus in of itself. Did he even get approval to write it? It feels like he didn't.
I was on the fence about Kirkpatrick but after reading that, I officially don't like or trust him.
I was on the fence about Kirkpatrick but after reading that, I officially don't like or trust him.
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The thing that annoys me about the skeptics and deboonkers is that they're acting like this hearing was to convince them personally that extraterrestrials exist and are here, when that isn't what's going on and frankly no one cares if some redditors believe them or care if it's true.
Real UFOs or aliens or not, the feds are using shadow govt to amass a huge amount of funding (that the amount is classified) to do things no one is even allowed to know about. That everyone thinks it's apparently a waste of time for Congress to even try to see what those spooks are up to makes me think this lazy redditor "it's just a distraction" way of thinking is a psy op in itself, that the glowies are pushing this narrative as a "nothing to see here, they're trying to distract you from the latest Hunter Biden dick pic!!" type of thing. And it's working.
Real UFOs or aliens or not, the feds are using shadow govt to amass a huge amount of funding (that the amount is classified) to do things no one is even allowed to know about. That everyone thinks it's apparently a waste of time for Congress to even try to see what those spooks are up to makes me think this lazy redditor "it's just a distraction" way of thinking is a psy op in itself, that the glowies are pushing this narrative as a "nothing to see here, they're trying to distract you from the latest Hunter Biden dick pic!!" type of thing. And it's working.
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According to the co-founder of The Debrief he didn't go through the appropriate channels before posting that statement on his personal LinkedIn account.
He also pointed out that this little stunt could put him in legal trouble as a potential violation of the Hatch Act since Grusch's whistleblower retaliation complaint is still being investigated. I doubt congress would go that far but I would expect them to grill him publicly about his claims and characterization of the hearing. The House members responsible for arranging the hearing have formally requested the creation of a UAP House Select Committee which would give them the ability to issue subpoenas.