Young men reveal why so many of them are single: ‘Dates feel more like job interviews’

From: https://nypost.com/2023/03/01/rate-of-single-men-in-the-us-looking-for-dates-has-declined/

They’re single but they’re not mingling.

New data from the Pew Research Center has shown that 63% of men under 30 are single – up from 51% in 2019.

COVID isolation and women’s high expectations for something serious are the main reasons they’re avoiding going out and coupling up, young guys say.

“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.

“The ‘getting to know you’ period is gone and that doesn’t feel so great after coming out of isolation.”

He recalled a recent first date that went quite well until the woman interrogated him on their walk home.

“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.

Experts agree that women are certainly wanting more than ever before.

“The overall picture [is] that if a woman is going to go on a date with a man, chances are it’s not for a casual fling,” Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, told The Post.

“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family,” he added.

Breslow isn’t looking to settle down and get married anytime soon, so he’d rather have casual flings.

“The way dating is currently just makes me want to hook up locally with no stress or strings attached,” he says. “Fortunately that part comes very easy … I’m unmotivated to search for something serious for the time being.”

Ian Breslow said the face of dating has changed greatly since COVID.
Andrew Bruno, a 28-year-old nurse from Bellmore, NY, says flirting in the post-COVID era just isn’t as fun as it once was.

“Being able to naturally approach people while out isn’t like it was pre-pandemic. People are still much less likely to leave their groups or cliques at a bar,” said Bruno. “They’re certainly less talkative and that’s lowered my incentive to put myself out there.”

He also said the pandemic, more than ever before, made dating apps the central means for meeting people — and he’s not a fan.

“That just really isn’t my style. Like there is a weekslong prerequisite before you can think about getting involved, even for casual things,” Bruno said. “I’d rather take all that effort and put it towards my career.”

And, like Breslow, he’s in no hurry to get hitched.

Andrew Bruno feels that people have become less approachable while out since COVID.
“I’m also still very young,” Bruno said. “I don’t feel the need to rush, especially if people don’t act as naturally as they did before COVID. Why would I put it all out there for someone who can’t or won’t hold a conversation?”

For Mike M., a 25-year-old in Queens, it’s his — not the opposite sex’s — social skills that are still battling a bad case of long COVID.

“I definitely can’t walk into a room and go talk to someone I’m interested [in] like I used to be able to. It feels like my outgoingness has suffered some atrophy,” Mike, who withheld his last name out of embarrassment, told The Post.

He’s also having less sex than he did pre-pandemic.

“I have definitely been going online to take care of my urges more than I have by seeing people,” Mike admitted.

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He feels as though he lost two prime years in his early 20s of being able to date and have fun without worrying about being in a serious relationship.

Now, he’s under pressure to find a long-term commitment, but can’t put himself out there.

“I also feel like I’m caught between two worlds,” he said. “Ultimately I’ve just been crashing and have had neither lately.”
 
Well the stupid cunts chose the shitheads so maybe the dumb whores should just choose better. Maybe she should choose not to have fatherless children until she's vetted the man's suitability. There's always a piece of shit man around, and when a woman chooses him to father children she gets twenty years of gubmint funbucks and a lifelong license to blame it on men as a class, not on her own foolish decisions.
A lot of those "stupid cunts" chose men who hid their true colors until they got pregnant. It's incredibly common for abusive men to hide their true nature at first.

Blaming women for the shitty behavior of men isn't a great way to attract them btw

You're also greatly overestimated how much gov assistance needy moms get, and how easy it is to get said assistance.
 
Well the stupid cunts chose the shitheads so maybe the dumb whores should just choose better. Maybe she should choose not to have fatherless children until she's vetted the man's suitability. There's always a piece of shit man around, and when a woman chooses him to father children she gets twenty years of gubmint funbucks and a lifelong license to blame it on men as a class, not on her own foolish decisions.
I've actually seen this happen play out in real time. Yes this is anecdata, but data nonetheless. Whilst with some mates at a social gathering, the topic of a certain girl one of our mates was crushing on in the group was brought up and it was revealed that she has a preference for the "bad guys." Apparently this one girl keeps boucning to and fro with men with questionable ethics while ignoring the crush, who's a regular decent dude. One of many such cases.
 
What do you mean "no reason"? We know exactly why this happened. Beginning with the Sexual Revolution in the 60s and 70s, young men and women all over the West were convinced to abandon ideals of propriety and chastity in favour free love and indiscriminate fornication. This occured for multiple reasons: the pill, abortion, no-fault divorce. And do not pretend that there was not a concerted effort on the part of certain sectors in society that this should happen.
If it were simply a matter of easy sex and self-gratification, you wouldn't see men checking out of education and the economy the way they have. Men have always had ambition and produced primarily for the sake of their mate and families in a very pro-social way. They find their life meaning in selflessly providing when they have real investment in who they're providing for.

It's a much more complicated problem than this "men just started wanting easy sex when birth control and divorce became available" argument you're positing.
 
I've actually seen this happen play out in real time. Yes this is anecdata, but data nonetheless. Whilst with some mates at a social gathering, the topic of a certain girl one of our mates was crushing on in the group was brought up and it was revealed that she has a preference for the "bad guys." Apparently this one girl keeps boucning to and fro with men with questionable ethics while ignoring the crush, who's a regular decent dude. One of many such cases.
Sounds more like a girl whose been normalized to abuse and seeks it out because that's what her brain registers as normal. Which is common.

A lot of guys who claim to be decent guys are also anything but.
 
Sounds more like a girl whose been normalized to abuse and seeks it out because that's what her brain registers as normal. Which is common.

A lot of guys who claim to be decent guys are also anything but.
To me, any guy calling themselves a "nice guy" sets off the same warning bells as anyone calling themselves a "male feminist".
 
Sounds more like a girl whose been normalized to abuse and seeks it out because that's what her brain registers as normal. Which is common.

A lot of guys who claim to be decent guys are also anything but.
That's why women should focus on less of what a guy says and more on the actions he carries out.This requires women to not allows themselves to be conditioned and not just become all entwined over entering a relationship (aka: Overwrite hard wiring until sure of the guy)

In regard to pregnancy, don't spread your legs until you're sure. Self control is not impossible, too many just find it undesirable to have any like wild animals.
 
In regard to pregnancy, don't spread your legs until you're sure. Self control is not impossible, too many just find it undesirable to have any like wild animals.
That's what condoms, birth control, and abortions are for. If a woman gets pregnant and keeps the pregnancy, she typically felt like she was in a good relationship at the time (that or she was unable to get an abortion or had personal beliefs against abortion). Pregnancy is a big deal and not something most women are going to do without being in what they think is a good, committed relationship thats ready for a child. Unfortunately many shitty men don't show their true colors until a baby happens.
 
lol, no. There are plenty of cases of women trying to baby lock the man they are with in the hopes to keep him tied to the relationship. Spare the BS about women only letting themselves get knocked up when they think they're in a steady relationship. The state of the modern west as it is now wouldn't be the case if that was true.
 
lol, no. There are plenty of cases of women trying to baby lock the man they are with in the hopes to keep him tied to the relationship. Spare the BS about women only letting themselves get knocked up when they think they're in a steady relationship. The state of the modern west as it is now wouldn't be the case if that was true.
And there are plenty of cases of creepy dudes stealthing or poking holes in the condom to try and babytrap a bangmaid and keep her from leaving
 
That's what condoms, birth control, and abortions are for. If a woman gets pregnant and keeps the pregnancy, she typically felt like she was in a good relationship at the time (that or she was unable to get an abortion or had personal beliefs against abortion). Pregnancy is a big deal and not something most women are going to do without being in what they think is a good, committed relationship thats ready for a child. Unfortunately many shitty men don't show their true colors until a baby happens.
Condoms, birth control, and abortions are a lack of self control not an adoption of self control. By that logic a man abandoning a woman who is pregnant is a "self-control option" to knocking her up, or just punching her in the belly. That's obviously nonsense.

To make it easier, it'd be like being obese and instead of putting your plate down and avoid eating the cake, you are advocating the woman eat the cake in this instance and take a weight loss pill after. That's not self control.
 
This is one of the best genderfight threads we've had in a while!

The system has eroded incentive for lifelong partnership, as well as its perceived value. It pushes FOMO to keep people with one foot out the door in relationships - always a hotter, younger girl, or a richer guy out there. Marrying young and building a family together is ~ruining your life~. Every date reveals red flags, boundaries, baggage... no, that one isn't for you. And if you do get married and have kids, as soon as any problems crop up in the relationship, well you know it's better they grow up in a step-household full of love than see their biological parents at each others' throats, you know?

Society has killed the entire mindset that you choose someone and dedicate yourself to the relationship as a composite entity, and those that still hold it are seen as religious weirdos like the Mormons. It's the prisoner's dilemma but writ large for the fundamental building block of society, and basically the only people that win are your 90th percentile Chads who didn't want to settle down anyway and get to plow a ton of dumpy chicks on Tinder whenever they get bored. Everyone else gets to seethe at the loss of decent men who check out of the dating game, and decent women who get jaded from the perception that nobody will commit to them. Men think women are all whores, women think men are all players. Sad, many such cases, etc.
 
And you can see that demonstrated clearly in that thread. Sex is an unseemly, barely-tolerated motivation for pairing up - icky, carnal men should want the good, sweet, flowery, virtuous aspects of romantic relationships like women.
Jesus, forget sex, I would settle for hugs and occasional ungloved hand holding at this point.

Maybe I should just tell a girl that, see if it improves my chances.
 
I think a lot of people mistakenly believe that unhealthy and abusive relationships are more common today, when in reality it just wasn't openly talked about previously in history and women especially had a lot less freedom to leave bad relationships.
Maybe you should let people who have actually had a relationship talk about relationships before pretending some article from TMZ validates your shit opinion.

Seriously imagine thinking it's the guys who poke holes in condoms cuz they're baby crazy holy shit.
 
Maybe I should just tell a girl that, see if it improves my chances.
Lots of girls love nonsexual cuddling, it might actually work.

Not me though, I instinctively REEEEE at humans touching me (I'm a bird)
Maybe you should let people who have actually had a relationship talk about relationships before pretending some article from TMZ validates your shit opinion.

Seriously imagine thinking it's the guys who poke holes in condoms cuz they're baby crazy holy shit.
I mean

Tbh I feel like I see more dudes who really really want babies than women these days. Usually trad weirdoes that want them b/c muh genetic legacy and to trap a fuckmommy.
 
Not me though, I instinctively REEEEE at humans touching me
Yes, you've made your myriad pathologies very clear to us many times.

Condoms, birth control, and abortions are a lack of self control not an adoption of self control.
That's right - real self-control niggas keep their pull-out game sharp at all times.
 
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