Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Feline Supremacist]

I think it conclusively proved that Azov was all bark, no bite, when it came to fighting.

That was proven at Debaltsevo in 2015 when Azov suffered mass casualties.

 

[Stasi]

I finished reading the well acclaimed work of Amerimutt art known as "300" by Frank Miller and decided to read up on that battle.

And saw this comparison made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

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Amazing, they truly are living in another universe of media narratives no matter what happens in the real world.

Azovites got their ass handed to them, despite desperately hiding behind women, children and pensioners and using civilians as human shields. Turned tail and ran to hide in a hole while coping and seething, still claiming they are brave warriors from a factory basement. Resorted to begging Zelensky, western leaders and even the fucking Catholic Pope to come save them. Eventually cracked from having to eat rats and drinking their own piss, surrendered and marched out in shame and disgrace. This was so shameful and pathetic Ukraine still refuses to acknowledge what actually happened and called it an "evacuation" (lmao).

How do Ukrainians see this fiasco? Omfg, Azov are totally like the 300 Spartans! THIS IS Hoholstant!!!11

 

[888Flux]

Oi cut down with this kykery, glowie.

I don't know if English is your first language but you are taking the words I said as a literal statement. The idea that there is some axis of Russia-China and America/the West is a complete facade. There are parasites at the helm of each of these nations that have a shared common goal with occasional disagreements. The world we are living in is one where war transgresses any concept of a nation or people.

How come?

Western nations are bankrupting themselves to finance Zelensky's human wave attacks against Russia at the taxpayer's expense. By the time this war is over Ukraine will never be able to recover from the drastic population loss from both immigration out of the country and men being sent to die on behalf of a CIA installed dancing jewish faggot.

On the other hand Russia has manufactured a war to protect the interest of it's financial elite. Russia could have achieved it's objectives in the LPR and DNR through the status quo prior to the war without any direct intervention from the Russian military.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Zelenskyyy's skeleton army will be supported from air by eight F-16s. Vatniggers in full cope mode, the power of necromancy combined with 8 airplanes from the 1970s will destroy ruzzia for good!

And how long is all this training going to take? Six months? A year? 18 months?

Who's gonna do the 18 hours of maintenance per hour of flight required? I'm assuming there's some specialized training needed there. American crew? American trained crew? Contractors?

Hell, what runways are these planes going to take off from and land on, as we've noted at length in this thread. Surely NATO isn't stupid enough to ignore that issue? Even the mushheads in Washington aren't stupid enough to try and base them in someplace like Poland, one hopes.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Russia could have achieved it's objectives in the LPR and DNR through the status quo prior to the war without any direct intervention from the Russian military.

Can you explain precisely how, or is this just your personal opinion?

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

And how long is all this training going to take? Six months? A year? 18 months?

Who's gonna do the 18 hours of maintenance per hour of flight required? I'm assuming there's some specialized training needed there. American crew? American trained crew? Contractors?

Hell, what runways are these planes going to take off from and land on, as we've noted at length in this thread. Surely NATO isn't stupid enough to ignore that issue? Even the mushheads in Washington aren't stupid enough to try and base them in someplace like Poland, one hopes.

Nothing to worry about, the Ghost of Kyiv himself is goint to take care of all of that, he'll pilot all the F-16's at the same time as well as do the maintenance, and repair the runways as well.

Putler and his Ork army will be defeated and Moscow shall burn!

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Ukraine has seriously broken the minds of more people than Trump ever could

 

[The Foxtrot]

Mariupol was straight up embarassing. How the hell do you lose a fairly large city in 83 days? Artemovsk's defenders did way better, even if they were facing an undersupplied mercenary unit full of prisoners.

I think it conclusively proved that Azov was all bark, no bite, when it came to fighting.

Amazing, they truly are living in another universe of media narratives no matter what happens in the real world.

Azovites got their ass handed to them, despite desperately hiding behind women, children and pensioners and using civilians as human shields. Turned tail and ran to hide in a hole while coping and seething, still claiming they are brave warriors from a factory basement. Resorted to begging Zelensky, western leaders and even the fucking Catholic Pope to come save them. Eventually cracked from having to eat rats and drinking their own piss, surrendered and marched out in shame and disgrace. This was so shameful and pathetic Ukraine still refuses to acknowledge what actually happened and called it an "evacuation" (lmao).

How do Ukrainians see this fiasco? Omfg, Azov are totally like the 300 Spartans! THIS IS Hoholstant!!!11

Because the Azovites fancied themselves like the Charlemagne Division ; fanatic defenders that take "For us, there will be no retreat!" from the Teufelslied literally while fighting like lions until the very end of WW2.

Instead they were like their progenitors in the Galician SS ; Uniformed thugs who took extreme casualties in an actual fight, who were largely used for bullying civilians and committing warcrimes, who surrendered (to the West!) when things got tough.

I guarantee you, Azovites never actually expected to fight the Russian Army itself. They got comfy and complacent taking potshots at DPR/LPR militias and burning down villages.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Another video of the drones being used
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"149.200" for any Ukrainians that don't wish to fight and die

I'm having a bit of a mindless observer moment and basking in the glory of being proven right over something petty. Drone doctrine is indeed heading in the drone swarm direction, and mass producibility is king.

 

[Male Idiot]

BREAKING Satellite images show that necromancer Zelenskyyy is building new Cursed Temples, preparing a massive skeleton army that can turn the tides of war!

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Zelenskyyy's skeleton army will be supported from air by eight F-16s. Vatniggers in full cope mode, the power of necromancy combined with 8 airplanes from the 1970s will destroy ruzzia for good!

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While this is not a good look if true, it could be just a preparation for the future... which is still not a good look, provided its legit.

While I could think 400k kills are possible, 2 million wounded? Unless they count "took a shrapnel to the knee, rested for 2 weeks before being sent back" happening multiple time to one soldier, I consider that number a bit too high.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

While I could think 400k kills are possible, 2 million wounded? Unless they count "took a shrapnel to the knee, rested for 2 weeks before being sent back" happening multiple time to one soldier, I consider that number a bit too high.

That's how wounded are calculated. If you need to be treated by a doctor, be it in field or in hospital - into the wounded you go.

 

[The Foxtrot]

That's how wounded are calculated. If you need to be treated by a doctor, be it in field or in hospital - into the wounded you go.

Similar thing happened to a friend of mine. Shooting steel target with his AR too close, caught a tiny, pinkie fingernail-sized piece of lead in his stomach. We literally didn't notice until he had a little spot of blood staining his shirt. Called ahead to the hospital, 2 cops were in the ER for the "gunshot victim".
What's on record? "He got shot and had to be treated for a gunshot wound!"
What actually happened? "He caught a tiny little piece of a bullet being careless, got a small bandage for it, a note in his medical file that he has a little piece of a bullet in him, and then he went home and watched a football game."

Willing to bet a lot of the wounded in this war are something similar.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Thoughts of Russians on this?

 

[White_N]

Thoughts of Russians on this?

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Sounds about right

Communists and conservative soc-dems/nationalists are the second and third most popular political groups in Russia after Putin's vaguely centrist ruling party, and they all supported the war, unlike liberals, who even before that had a bad reputation, but after the start of 2022 they fled or even supported Ukraine and the West, which put all the good will that was for them down the drain.

Also, the "enemy of my enemy" rule always works, especially locally, so all political spectrums in Russia except the globohomo cult are united in this proxy war

 

[MrJokerRager]

So does the Russian Army have like an USO equivalent or provide entertainment for servicemen, like this?

I guess taking out 10 tanks should be enough for Ace Tanker like it is in World of Tanks.

Moscow shares details of one-on-eight armored clash (Archive)

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has recommended that a tank crew that destroyed a Ukrainian armored column be named Heroes of Russia for their actions, the military has said.

In a statement on Saturday, the Defense Ministry heaped praise on the Russian service members driving a tank named ‘Alyosha’, who repelled "an attack by a numerically superior enemy" in Zaporozhye Region, countering eight armored vehicles, including two tanks.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

Uhh whats going on?

Ukrainians in Europe:

 

[kuuu]

About Jeddah
It is difficult to condemn the desire to end the war.
It is impossible to argue with references to the UN Charter with the understanding that in addition to sovereignty there is also the right of nations to self-determination.
Any peace proposals have a chance of success if three key conditions are met:

1. Participation of both sides of the conflict. And this is not present.
2. Taking into account the historical context. And it is like this: the country of Ukraine never existed before 1991. It is a fragment of the Russian Empire.
3. Taking into account current realities. And they are as follows: Ukraine is in the half-life stage, and part of its territories have returned to Russia.

The mediator who is willing to admit these obvious things has a chance of success.
All others – have none.
However, the negotiations themselves are not needed yet. The enemy must come crawling on his knees, begging for mercy.

https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/369

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Uhh whats going on?

Looks like a smuggling bust, but who the hell goes through the trouble of smuggling regular shotshell - There's only a handful of countries I can think of that are worth smuggling arms to that also restrict that shit, and even those countries barely regulate it, and have better smuggling operations, like the UK. And I can't think of anyone who'd put the effort into packaging up the shells like that who also wouldn't know. Either the smugglers are retarded, or there's some weird "We let them bust some shipments of useless shit and the good stuff gets a pass" level corruption going on. And nobody on the corrupt side of things will believe for a second that busting shotshell is gonna be enough cover to save their skin.

The only other downstream ideas I got from that are really conspiratorial, like hiding ammunition for a resistance movement that plans to arm itself with four winds level shit. But any forward thinking resistance prep is just gonna be burying arms caches under every other tree, not hiding them in the candy aisle.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Patrick Lancaster filmed near Avdeevka. They took some drone directed mortar fire, and it sounded pretty intense. The DPR commander he interviewed was hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgQKQHPrqUU&ab_channel=PatrickLancaster

 

[Male Idiot]

Sounds about right

Communists and conservative soc-dems/nationalists are the second and third most popular political groups in Russia after Putin's vaguely centrist ruling party, and they all supported the war, unlike liberals, who even before that had a bad reputation, but after the start of 2022 they fled or even supported Ukraine and the West, which put all the good will that was for them down the drain.

Also, the "enemy of my enemy" rule always works, especially locally, so all political spectrums in Russia except the globohomo cult are united in this proxy war

So the Russian far right has enough sense to realise globohomo are a bigger threat while the hohol ones go "GOBBLE GOBBLE JEW COCK TASTY" . Okey, I may have been wrong when I said they are ethnically the same, the Russians clearly have far better grasp on logic.