The pornification of everything - How pornography are turning young boys into coombrained degenerates and young girls into e-whores.

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Every meme has its day, and “Rule 34” — the observation that on the internet you can find porn featuring every imaginable protagonist and situation — is now so banal that it’s been ages since I’ve seen it mentioned. It is said to have originated 20 years ago with a webzine cartoon of a man staring in horror at a screen. The speech bubble reads “Calvin and Hobbes?”, and it’s captioned “Rule #34: if it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.”
With hindsight, those were innocent times. The intervening decades have seen the arrival of Pornhub, now the world’s largest porn site; smartphones, which put free porn in everyone’s pockets, including children’s; and OnlyFans, which disaggregated and disintermediated live sex work.
Porn aesthetics have reshaped women’s bodies, with trout pouts and Brazilian waxes now mainstream, and breast and butt implants nearly so. Meanwhile porn tropes have made their way into bedrooms: young women report that spitting, slapping, choking and anal are now normal expectations on the dating scene.
Anti-porn campaigners tend to have three concerns: what porn does to the performers; what it does to the viewers; and what it does to the wider culture. The zeitgeist is uncongenial to thinking seriously about such issues.

Self-denial and delayed gratification are out of fashion. The rising identitarian mode of politics conceives of people as bundles of innate characteristics — not just race, sexuality and gender identity, but specific and sometimes outré sexual tastes framed as “kinks”, which supposedly come pre-installed. The main task of teenagers and young adults is thought to be self-discovery, not building character.

To this way of thinking, porn cannot teach arousal to distasteful material, only reveal that it is what the viewer was always fated to enjoy. For young people so open-minded that their brains have fallen out, the only sexual no-no is “kink-shaming”. It’s not your fault — or Pornhub’s — if you get off on urinating on people or soiling an adult nappy; indeed self-actualisation means learning that immutable fact about yourself early and acting upon it often. The sole admissible moral consideration concerning sexual encounters is consent.
But as Louise Perry writes in her excellent book, The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, consent is too shallow a concept to capture what is going on in today’s dating market. The pill, dating apps and porn have shaped it to suit only high-status, commitment-phobic men. Women who would prefer porn practices kept out of their bedrooms have little negotiating power. Is a teenage girl really able to say no to booty calls, choking and anal when she knows any boy she fancies has tastes and expectations shaped by porn?
Some campaigners put their hope in measures such as parental controls, age verification and blocking online payment and clearing services. I fear, however, that these will do little hold back the tide of filth. Meanwhile porn is once more being reinvented by technology — in ways that may alleviate the impact on performers, but at the cost of speeding up the pornification of everything.

The latest development is hyper-realistic CGI video of AI-generated characters. These are not “deepfakes”, in which stills or videos of real people are manipulated (often by superimposing female celebrities’ faces on the bodies of porn performers). Rather, they feature original characters created by machine-learning algorithms.
The result will soon be visually indistinguishable from flesh and blood, except in being impossibly beautiful — or simply impossible, endowed with flexibility and stamina beyond human capacity, and proportions beyond the dreams of plastic surgeons.
The technology still has glitches: an image of four ridiculously lovely blonde, bikini-clad cam-girls that went viral on Twitter earlier this year managed the faces and curves well, but fell down when it came to the hands. Even so, it garnered appreciative comments from men who didn’t spot the flaws — and many predictions that artificial beauties created and directed by men will soon displace performers on OnlyFans and other adult-content sites.
Some OnlyFans creators pushed back, saying that their subscribers value a personal connection. And indeed some porn viewers may be willing to pay for something they perceive as authentic, just as people still queue to see the Mona Lisa rather than settling for a faithful reproduction. Or they may value the proprietorial feeling of owning a private performance or direct link with a creator. That is, after all, why NFTs (non-fungible tokens, which create verifiable title to the original of digital art) have taken off.
Female celebrities might still be able to make money from adult performances, should they wish to — though few do now; very beautiful women usually have better options. The market in pretty young nobodies willing to be filmed having sex, however, is surely approaching its expiry date.
How can they compete with artificial women whose expressions, anatomy and every move have been shaped by a man’s insights into other men’s desires? And you’d have to be very naïve to think men who cannot tell or do not care about the difference between faked female orgasms and real ones care much about authenticity and personal connection.

Taking the performers out of pornography would do a great deal to increase the sum total of human happiness. The average OnlyFans creator makes just $150 a month, and few porn performers’ careers last for more than a few years. This is an industry that chews up gullible young women and spits them out with mental and physical injuries from PTSD to anal prolapse.
The shortness of careers in porn is largely because of the “Coolidge effect” — men’s evolutionarily-endowed desire for variety and novelty in sexual partners. It’s named for a possibly apocryphal anecdote about the former American president visiting a farm with his wife. On hearing that a particular rooster mated dozens of times a day, Mrs Coolidge supposedly said, “Tell that to the president.” Later, when he hears the same tale, the president asks “Same hen every time?” and when the answer is no, he says: “Tell that to Mrs Coolidge.”
As for the escalating demands on performers, they are driven in part by an effect common to all media. I don’t think it’s been named, but I think of it as action-filmitis: the repeated one-upmanship in which one film’s car chase is trumped by the next one’s bomb on a bus, and thence in turn by high-speed smash-ups involving helicopters, planes, rockets, satellites and spaceships.
The porn equivalent is bigger, harder, faster and longer. It’s more partners, more implants, more orifices, more bodily fluids, more violence and degradation.

The effect is amplified by the way exposure to any type of content desensitises the audience, and by algorithms that autoplay ever more extreme content. Material that once would have turned viewers’ stomachs becomes ejaculation fodder. AI-generated porn, unconstrained by the need to keep performers at least minimally happy — or even alive — will further accelerate this process.

It remains to be seen just how far AI-driven porn will stray from simulating reality. The female equivalent — written erotica — has always been more ingenious and varied. That is in part because evolution has shaped women to respond to a wider range of sexual cues than men, but also because the written word is less constraining than live-action film.
Given the chance, might large numbers of men like to watch AI-generated women having sex with the werewolves, vampires, demons and human-animal hybrids who stalk romance novels and fanfic? Might they be aroused by plots involving sex magic, soul bonds and time-travel?
I fear rather that the backhanded compliment paid by Rule 34 to the range of men’s erotic imagination will turn out to have been too generous. To adapt Orwell, if you want a picture of the future of porn, imagine a freakishly endowed man pounding into an impossibly pneumatic woman — for ever.
 
This complete removal of shame, or the idea that some things are wrong, or that you can be trained to find certain stimuli arousing, has been corrosive to society. Make shame great again.
Porn is corrosive to society.
I agree 100%

I also want to say that men (and women for that matter) worth having a relationship with may glance at porn, but they dont become consumed with it. They are able to differentiate between unrealistic and realistic.
Contrary to what all these Ethots may say, most non degenerate men want a women who's tits and ass aren't plastered all over the internet. Especially since the women are generally BPD and at best very shallow.
Modern feminism and the creation of the welfare state have set women back 100 years.
 
When something is completely out of your control you should always assume the worst. You can 100% protect yourself from divorce by staying away from women.

And you can protect yourself from old age by using that 12 gauge mouthwash. You will never have alzheimers if you paint the ceiling with your gray matter.

But people don't do that. We marry women because we like them, and are happy to risk divorce and broken hearts. You don't know what you are missing, buddy.
 
The whole ai art thing is gonna really fuck some people up. We're already seeing the affect of the wide availability of pornography with the best example being trannies and their ilk. But when people can tailor make images and eventually videos of what ever they want, its gonna create a lot more degenerates. I already hate that coomers post their soft core ai pornography of women in any media and call it "fan art."
It's a natural eugenics for those that should have been obliterated through conventional bullying of the old days that have been outlawed in schools, as well as those who would've died in the wild. If your life is so fucked that you can't stop cranking to images on a screen, you weren't bullied enough in school and you're not worthy of passing your genetics on. Long live the chads who aren't porn-obsessed.
 
You can 100% protect yourself from divorce by staying away from women.
You can. But you can 98% protect yourself AND have a happy life by finding one who isn’t a mental BPD banshee. They do exist. Don’t cut yourself off from potential great happiness, kids are the best thing ever - just be extremely choosy about who you pick to share your life with.
 
You can. But you can 98% protect yourself AND have a happy life by finding one who isn’t a mental BPD banshee. They do exist. Don’t cut yourself off from potential great happiness, kids are the best thing ever - just be extremely choosy about who you pick to share your life with.
I know plenty of women who are not BPD banshees who still divorced their husbands.
 
just be extremely choosy about who you pick to share your life with.

Yes. And dont blame women when they are extremely choosy as well. They have to be, lest they end up some degenerate coombrained Chris Tyson.
 
When something is completely out of your control you should always assume the worst. You can 100% protect yourself from divorce by staying away from women.
Okay. But that's a completely different argument than "100% of women do this".

kids are the best thing ever
Everybody says this and then they go on to complain about the litany of horrible things their children do. I'm convinced you all have Stockholm syndrome.
 
just be extremely choosy about who you pick to share your life with.
This is something men in particular have to learn. How to find a good woman you wont hate after five years. I think thats the real eugenic effect of feminism: men stop impregnating every crazy cunt they come across.
 
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Everybody says this and then they go on to complain about the litany of horrible things their children do. I'm convinced you all have Stockholm syndrome.

Both are true. Its a lifetime of delayed gratification, but the intangible rewards more than makes up for it.
 
Everybody says this and then they go on to complain about the litany of horrible things their children do. I'm convinced you all have Stockholm syndrome.
My little ‘uns are lovely. Kids can be weird and tiring but I wouldn’t say they do horrible things. Having a sleepy toddler hug you and tell you you’re the best is a better hit than hard drugs.
But being miserable in your home life is awful, and too many people have terrible choices of partner. And frankly, too many people (men and women) are trash and will make you miserable these days
 
I think Jersh is right when he says technology is creating a new major evolutionary pressure in favor of humans that are capable of regulating their various pleasure-seeking drives and against those prone to addictive behavior. The latter are just going to become completely dysfunctional.
Same way infinite food, infinite drugs, and infinite TV select against hedonists, so too does infinite sex. You've no doubt heard the "hard times make strong men" axiom. It's not quite true. It would be more accurate to say that hard times kill weak men. The weaker the man, the lower the standard for "hard times".

As cliche as it is, I predict a major die-off in the coming decades once the gibs dry up. Half the world's population is propped up by western charity. Eventually we're not going to have anything left to give, at which point the people who only know how to take and consume will have to either adapt in a real hurry or die. And based on the insane spending and cartoonish mismanagement of every single western country, the dry season is fast approaching.
 
You don't need a woman to have a child. You can adopt, you can get a surrogate. Kids are great, I agree. That's why I despise women for taking them away.

Yes, you ABSOLUTELY need a women to have a child, because all children need a mother. To take a babe away from its mothers arms, and sell it like a product, is an abomination of the very worst kind.
 
I know plenty of women who are not BPD banshees who still divorced their husbands.
Yes I do too. The ones who had affairs are bitches and were from the start. The one who was beaten weekly was right to divorce. The rest are the banality of low expectations of each other. Nagging the man, and treating the woman like a maid lead to a slow downhill and then one time she snaps after doing all the housework for 25 years after working all day and he’s down the pub all ‘I just left the dishes once!’ And everyone’s nodding in agreement at how awful women are. Or she’s nagged him and belittled him for twenty years and he snaps and leaves and he’s suddenly the villain. People are complicated, neither sex is free from blame, but all you can do is try your best and be good to each other.
You don't need a woman to have a child. You can adopt, you can get a surrogate. Kids are great, I agree. That's why I despise women for taking them away.
You do need a woman. Only women birth babies. If the women is then not involved the child has either been abandoned or sold. Adoption is good if the child needs it.”. Surrogacy is a terrible thing-and bad for children and society. Children aren’t a thing to be commissioned.
Women using children as weapons in divorce is a terrible thing. Men walking out on their kids is a terrible thing. Neither sex has a monopoly on bad behaviour. Again all you can do is pick as best you can, and be good to one another. Marriage is a long term commitment and I think people don’t want to do the hard work
 
The rising identitarian mode of politics conceives of people as bundles of innate characteristics
This is a good point. The confusion of essense and energies has left westerners rejecting the concept of essense, and focusing primarily on energies. There is a very severe spiritual illness at the heart of Western society that has given rise to identity politics and porn addiction.

But instead, the author wants you to forget all that and focus on the nazi pirate vampire porn novels written by brave trans-latinx authors
 
The more I think about the future of AI generated porn/AI girlfriends the more I honestly believe it will be at least a large part of the end of society as we know it.

It will be the most addictive, mind destroying creation ever. It will probably replace the need for most men to date a woman or try to get laid, and boys in general too that grow up with it will be completely autistic and insane. That recent study of 60% of men under 30 are single, if that trend continues into the future I do not see how society could even function anymore.

Of course no one will try and fix any of this cause of muh patriarchy and racism or whatever so fuck em they will reap what they sow.
 
I know plenty of women who are not BPD banshees who still divorced their husbands.
When will you finally stop whining about your personal issues? You had an entire derailment thread in Mass Debates dedicated to your spergout. Fishing for some more sympathy, because you find it addictive? Why are you still bringing up your women issues if you're in a gay relationship? That boipussy won't do, must be a real vagina?

It will be the most addictive, mind destroying creation ever. It will probably replace the need for most men to date a woman or try to get laid, and boys in general too that grow up with it will be completely autistic and insane. That recent study of 60% of men under 30 are single, if that trend continues into the future I do not see how society could even function anymore.
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There will always be men who'd want a long-term relationship with another human being and a family. The ones that will be captured by AI porn are the AND NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST meme fodder. Let's call it The Great Replacement - coomers out, family men in.
 
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You can either watch porn and detach yourself fully from women, allowing yourself to live your life free of strife and pain, or you can avoid porn, get taken advantage of by those same women, get married, get divorced, lose your kids and your wealth.

Either way, you end up alone. And either way, you're still just left jerking off.

People who tell me I'm wrong for hating women seem to think there's some mystical formula to convince women to stay committed. Make money. Get fit. Treat her right. There isn't. They're all disloyal, they all leave, and they blame you for it.

Enjoy the porn, gentlemen.
This has some truth in it. Emphasis on some. Porn isn't going to alleviate any pain. It's a faked dopamine release. It only seems that you're happy - but you are not. Liking porn is a case of immaturity, it's a sign that you're not ready for a serious relationship.
As for women, the cities are going to be a disaster. Village girls still have some of that moral left and they're going to be by far the best wives. They know the importance of a family, and I doubt a woman that knows the importance of a family would want to run away as long as you treat her right. And no I'm not thinking in the material terms. It means that you treat her soul right. That kind of mutuality and compatibility is something city folks have mostly forgotten. Not everything is in the glitz and opulence of cities.
 
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