Far Cry thread - Far Cry 6 out now

[Weltraumfürst]

One of the cutscenes about him has an interviewer ask why he refuses to sell Viviro to the USA when they'll take down the blockade for it and he immediately segues into "USA bad because slavery".

Hang on, I literally just watched that cutscene and that's not exactly what happens. He only starts talking about slavery after the reporter lady asks him about Viviro being grown by slaves.

So, I got Far Cry 6 on sale and figured, why the hell not? I've played pretty much every entry in the series apart from Primal and Blood Dragon. I like Far Cry. 3 was a pretty damn good (and well-written, fight me) game. Far Cry 4 is decently written as well, and Far Cry 5 is a game that came out in 2017. This, however, is the worst one by far.

Not only does it feel like a step backwards (because this is the third time the game is set on a tropical island after 4 and 5 got a bit creative with the setting), the gameplay feels more like The Division than Far Cry 3 and the writing is ... not good. I've beaten the Montero region, that one was fine and I liked it, even though it had that trope of the strong female character succeeding the strong male character that I've grown to hate ever since Warlords of Draenor did it. Now I'm in Valle del Oro and I'm seriously considering just dropping the game because those fucking Zoomer rappers and the tranny shit is so goddamn irritating. Like, who is this even supposed to appeal to?

I mean, if I'd stop playing now I'd have gotten my 15 dollars' worth out of it, but I think I'm gonna finish the game just for the hell of it.

Also, does anyone else find it distracting that Castillo is played by such a well-known actor? I mean, Giancarlo Esposito is good, but so were Michael Mando and whatever the Joseph Seed guy's name is, but they were not so attached to a role like Esposito is with Gus Fring.

Lastly before I stop rambling, I want to say that

For an apolitical game, it's unintentionally a college millennial's power fantasy. It shys away from any political commentary against communism, but makes it fantastic enough to make government overthrowing feel like paradise. Pure dumb fun for a specific audience given the forced writing.

is right on the money. My best guess is that whoever wrote this lives so far up their own ass that they don't consider all the lefty shit that's in the game as political, it's probably just normal to them.

Oh yeah, and I actually got the secret ending by accident. I guess it's cool that it's in there, but back when FC4 did it, it was actually fun and original. Now it just feels like going through the motions, just like it did in FC5.

 

[ZMOT]

Also, does anyone else find it distracting that Castillo is played by such a well-known actor? I mean, Giancarlo Esposito is good, but so were Michael Mando and whatever the Joseph Seed guy's name is, but they were not so attached to a role like Esposito is with Gus Fring.

that's just ubisoft going with the LOOK, THAT ACTOR YOU LIKE!, same for all the zoomer rappers and troon shit. ubisoft is condensed "how do you do fellow young gamers". easier than actually making a good game and hiring people to make good game than just a focus-tested slop to hit checkboxes.

 

[TVB]

that's just ubisoft going with the LOOK, THAT ACTOR YOU LIKE!, same for all the zoomer rappers and troon shit. ubisoft is condensed "how do you do fellow young gamers". easier than actually making a good game and hiring people to make good game than just a focus-tested slop to hit checkboxes.

They're like any other big name media corporation that want to pretend to act as if they relate to their targeted audiences.

 

[Mega Black]

Also, does anyone else find it distracting that Castillo is played by such a well-known actor?

It might have been mildly interesting if he wasn't just being Gus Fring again.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

is right on the money. My best guess is that whoever wrote this lives so far up their own ass that they don't consider all the lefty shit that's in the game as political, it's probably just normal to them.

Yep. On the writing side, they just think this shit is normal. It's there. The old "Nothing here is political, it's just stuff that *exists*" reddit type shit.

And on the executive side, they really are not making a political message, they're just taking advantage of said redditards who are going to consoom anything with a female in the marketing and trans characters being involved to make as much money as possible.

 

[Miller]

that's just ubisoft going with the LOOK, THAT ACTOR YOU LIKE!, same for all the zoomer rappers and troon shit. ubisoft is condensed "how do you do fellow young gamers". easier than actually making a good game and hiring people to make good game than just a focus-tested slop to hit checkboxes.

I think they want to pretend that they're a Netflix of vidya. This could also explain their pretentious tagline: "a Ubisoft orginal" used in their recent productions.

 

[ZMOT]

They're like any other big name media corporation that want to pretend to act as if they relate to their targeted audiences.

they are, but also lot more cringe about it in a way only a clueless boomer or normalfag would be and anyone else can spot from a mile away.

I think they want to pretend that they're a Netflix of vidya. This could also explain their pretentious tagline: "a Ubisoft orginal" used in their recent productions.

more like reddit of vidya...

 

[Mega Black]

I think they want to pretend that they're a Netflix of vidya. This could also explain their pretentious tagline: "a Ubisoft orginal" used in their recent productions.

Pretty sure this was unironically stated in an interview leading up to FC6's release. They wanted it to feel like a Netflix drama.

So basically they set out to make something shitty from the start.

 

[Lester Tasker]

Far Cry 2 is so good. I don't think I've played a game that has such an oppressive atmosphere to it. Maybe it's because it's summer but I can really feel how fucking hot the African jungles are. I love that every character in the game is a total scumbag too, except for the reporter and the Jackal who has a change of conscious I guess. My buddy for the playthrough was the Israeli and his side mission dialogue is always something like "hey, you kill this guy, I make lots of money. After that, vacation in Thailand, 6 months. Fuck and get high every day." The general premise of a bunch of scummy down on their luck soldiers of fortune and criminals ending up in a backwoods shithole looking for work and survival reminds me of the movie Sorcerer, a plus for me.

I'm using the "realism + redux" mod that makes firefights a lot more intense, kind of like the higher S.T.A.L.K.E.R. difficulties where you and the enemies die much quicker. It also fixes the respawning outpost and patrol problem, 12 years after the game's release. Actually quite like the pacing with that fix, couple of intense small skirmishes followed by downtime and driving while on the way to a mission, large battle at a compound, repeat. The gunplay is satisfying and the AI is actually quite good, making tactical retreats, constantly trying flanks, blind firing through wood fences / tin shanty walls. Not sure if you mod toyed with their behavior because it's a lot more engaging than I remember.

The whole game actually brings to mind the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly mod, unfortunately down to the very basic mission structure. Actually Anomaly has a lot more variety, Far Cry 2 is pretty much entirely fetch this or kill this guy. The complete lack of allies besides your (occasional) 2 buddies is also a drag, although the mod I mentioned earlier has enemy infighting which is a great change from vanilla. The atmosphere and mercs fighting in an African civil war premise are wonderful though, maybe my favorite, it's a real shame there hasn't been anything similar since.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I'm using the "realism + redux" mod

Why am I just finding out about a new Far Cry 2 mod right now?

I had Warren Clyde my first playthrough back in 2008. He's like almost a carbon copy of a friend I had at the time.

 

[Lester Tasker]

Why am I just finding out about a new Far Cry 2 mod right now?

It's absolutely worth a go if you like the game, the outpost fix gets rid of a lot of the slog that was present (and kept me from going back to it for a while). It also removes the brown / grey color filter while keeping the atmosphere of the game in tact. It's kind of frustrating to me, honestly, that some pretty minor tweaks make the game better, but there hasn't been a title that just takes the formula and improves it from the ground up, Far Cry series or otherwise. I might play 3 after this but I never even finished it initially, just felt too arcade-y compared to 2. I saw 4 and it had some dandy Nepalese guy in a pink suit on the cover and they showed you riding elephants and I haven't paid attention since. I want more dirtbag mercenary games.

 

[Snekposter]

I want more dirtbag mercenary games.

In FC4 you're a psychotic axe kukri murderer on various drugs killing and skinning half the wildlife in not-Nepal to use as storage bags for your money, ammo, and weapons.

Or you know, pretty much the authentic Gurkha experience.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

I finally beat Far Cry 6 and it fucking sucks wasn't all that great.

I can't bring myself to outright call it bad because the meat of the game, the running and gunning works well. Everything else about the game, however, is pretty lackluster.

Let's start with feature bloat. There's a lot of mechanics that turn out to be utterly pointless, like the crafting system, the Los Bandidos operations, the base building, the fishing, the hunting, the equipment. I played on the second to highest difficulty and could safely ignore all of that after I got a few decent guns, somewhere around the second chapter. And that wasn't a huge deal, because the game is just way too fucking easy.

Now I'm really gonna go on a rant: The writing ranges from decent to utterly cringeworthy. The only part I really liked was the storyline of the Monteros, and even that was tainted by that tired trope of the wise old leader sacrificing himself to be replaced by the young female. In fact, there's no "good" male character anywhere to be seen. Carlos Montero and El Tigre come close, but they both die, and Paolo is a tranny, as the game so diligently keeps reminding you. In fact, the less said about Maximas Matanzas the better. That whole part made me consider just dropping the game, and I only kept playing because I wanted to see what would happen to Diego, the only character that I was invested in. Turns out Anton just fucking shoots him, thus rendering that whole part of the story pointless. Speaking of which, what the hell was the point of Anton having Leukemia? And, while we're on the subject, Anton Castillo has to be the least interesting Far Cry villain since Hoyt Volker. Vaas, Pagan Min and Joseph Seed all had an interesting twist to them, Anton is just a psychopath with a vision. A total waste of Giancarlo Esposito, because he did really well.

Beyond that, the entire game feels like a worse version of Far Cry 3 and 4. We've been on a tropical island before, we toppled a dictator before, resulting in the country probably going to shit.
I still think I got my 15 dollars worth out of the game, but there's not much about it that I could recommend.

Oh yeah, and I hated every minute of the Stranger Things DLC.

Tl,dr: Worst Far Cry so far. Not recommended.

 

[TVB]

The early FC games were great, but dear god FC5 and 6 were dogshit

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Speaking of which, what the hell was the point of Anton having Leukemia?

I originally thought that the idea was supposed to be as the game went on and more territory was captured, Anton was losing access to viviro and thus was succumbing to his cancer without proper treatment.

But then I think at some point they just straight up say that Anton no longer responds to the treatment, so is it trying to say that Viviro as a cure for cancer was always bullshit?

Viviro itself is one of those things that made absolutely no sense to me in the game. The background is that Viviro is a cure for cancer that Anton has used to fund his dictatorship. Then in game, you find out that Anton refuses to sell Viviro outside of Yara due to the US blockade, so how did he have this fortune from it?

Then you play the game, and Viviro is exclusively used as some sort of bio weapon that *causes* cancer, and can also be used to create volatile explosives that the regime is trying to sell to various terrorists and rogue nations.

It reeks of "we have too many people writing too many things" that Far Cry 5 had.

Like there's a mad man plot to be had there with having a cancer cure that's actually a bio weapon, but none of these plot points ever gel together or anything and are just there all contradicting each other and making no sense.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

Then you play the game, and Viviro is exclusively used as some sort of bio weapon that *causes* cancer, and can also be used to create volatile explosives that the regime is trying to sell to various terrorists and rogue nations.

I think you're confusing Viviro with the red fertilizer stuff. Also, I think that it's stated that Anton does sell Viviro outside of Yara, just not to the US.

I originally thought that the idea was supposed to be as the game went on and more territory was captured, Anton was losing access to viviro and thus was succumbing to his cancer without proper treatment.

That, however, would have made perfect sense, especially since, in each region, you hit his Viviro production in some way. It's like a part of the story is missing there.

Speaking of which, I fully expected some twist regarding Dani and/or Diego. Maybe Dani being Anton's long-lost child, maybe Diego being adopted, something. But no, Anton and Diego just die, Dani suddenly becomes the leader of Libertad and the entire thing just ends on a whimper.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I think you're confusing Viviro with the red fertilizer stuff. Also, I think that it's stated that Anton does sell Viviro outside of Yara, just not to the US.

I'm calling it Viviro for short hand, I know it's actually the chemical that they use to make Viviro (it's got some codename like that P90X workout I think). It's still stupid as fuck that a chemical that causes cancer/death somehow cures it when applied to tobacco.

And even the idea of "he just doesn't sell it ot hte US" doesn't make sense. How is he making any money when the United States is the epicenter of pharmaceuticals? Who else is affording this life saving cure to make him his fortune?

Far Cry 6 just feels really half baked. Like either Viviro should have actually been some master plan for him to unleash a long acting bioweapon on the US as revenge for the blockade, or there should have been like a 2nd half or ending where you basically become the number one enemy of the world for destroying the cure for cancer or something. Especially if you chose to kill McKay instead of working with him.

Of course, what should I expect at this point? I've been with the series for like 15 years, and "this story feels half baked" is basically the calling card.

 

[The Last Stand]

Who approved Far Cry 6 to be some millennial communist revolutionary fantasy?

 

[Weltraumfürst]

It's still stupid as fuck that a chemical that causes cancer/death somehow cures it when applied to tobacco.

I'm pretty sure that it literally is just a special type of fertilizer, and the cancer curing stuff is a natural part of the tobacco.

But yeah, half-baked is a good term.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

the cancer curing stuff is a natural part of the tobacco.

This is even dumber then