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Health authorities say they're closely tracking the spread of three new COVID-19 variants now spreading around the country.

Levels of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths for now remain far below previous peaks seen during past summer and winter waves of the virus, but have been climbing steadily for several weeks.

Public health officials have said that they're well-equipped for the latest seasonal uptick in the virus, with COVID-19 tests and forthcoming vaccines expected to work for the variants on the rise around the country.

But the appearance of a new "highly mutated" variant has raised questions among virus trackers about what the coming months could hold.

Here's the latest about what we know about the new COVID-19 variants now on the rise.

What are current new COVID variants?
There are two that are fairly prevalent and one — the highly mutated variant — that is not as widespread, for now. Every two weeks, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention publishes projections of COVID-19 variants that are dominant around the country.​

The EG.5 variant is estimated to be the "dominant" strain in the U.S. because it makes up the largest share of new cases of COVID-19 compared to other variants. On Aug. 18, the CDC estimated EG.5 made up 20.6% of new infections.​
Behind EG.5 – unofficially nicknamed "Eris" by virus tracker T. Ryan Gregory on social media – is a long list of other closely related variants, virtually all of which descended from the XBB strains that were dominant last winter.​
FL.1.5.1 is the next-largest strain at 13.3% of U.S. infections, the CDC estimated. Dubbed "Fornax" by Gregory, FL.1.5.1 has nearly doubled from the week prior when it was an estimated 7.1% of circulating variants.​
Both EG.5 and FL.1.5.1 are XBB variant descendants that share a mutation known as F456L, which appears to be helping them spread more than other virus siblings.​
Authorities have also been tracking a new highly mutated strain of the virus called BA.2.86. That strain was nicknamed "Pirola" by user @JPWeiland on social media. BA.2.86's prevalence remains too small to show up on the CDC estimates and is currently being aggregated with its distant ancestor BA.2.​
While only a small handful of cases have been spotted around the world, including one in Michigan, the strain's large number of mutations at some key parts of the virus has accelerated investigations into the risk that BA.2.86 might pose.​

Are symptoms for new COVID variants different?
COVID symptoms appear to be largely the same. Since EG.5 and FL.1.5.1 emerged, officials have generally downplayed claims of dramatic changes in symptoms caused by these closely related new variants, compared to their close Omicron variant relatives from earlier in the pandemic.​
There has been no evidence of increased disease severity from the new EG.5 strain, the WHO reported on August 9.​
Experts say other changes in the population, like immunity from prior infections and vaccination, also muddies attempts to compare whether new variants are to blame for shifts in reported symptoms from the virus.​
In recent months, COVID-19 symptoms appear to have remained largely the same as they have for the past year, with cold and flu-like signs – cough, headache, muscle aches, runny nose and fatigue – reported most often.​
As for BA.2.86, officials say it is too early to say whether that strain will cause more severe illness because of its worrying sum of mutations.​
The sole case in Michigan was "an older adult with mild symptoms, and [the patient] has not been hospitalized," Chelsea Wuth, a spokesperson for the state Department of Health and Human Services, said in a statement to CBS News.​
In Denmark, health officials said their three BA.2.86 variant cases did not have "symptoms other than those normally seen" from COVID-19.​
The U.K. said its BA.2.86 case was tested at a London hospital, but that it was currently not possible "to assess comparative severity by variant" based on their data.​

Do COVID tests work for new COVID variants?
They seem to work, although that may change if one of the strains becomes more prevalent. The Food and Drug Administration has so far not flagged any new issues with the EG.5 and FL.1.5.1 variants, from its ongoing joint effort with the National Institutes of Health to study the performance of COVID-19 tests with new strains. One positive development — Modeling suggests the variant will not evade tests better than other previous Omicron strains.​
"Now we have the genome mapped and all that information. We also have the epitopes mapped for all antigen-based tests. We can do computational analytics to see whether or not we think there's going to be any impact on test performance," Todd Merchak, co-lead of the NIH's RADx Tech initiative at the National Institute of Biomedical Imaging and Bioengineering.​
Merchak said the initiative's "well-oiled machine" has been preparing for manual experiments to validate whether home COVID tests are less sensitive to EG.5 and other variants, in case the FDA decides to call for home COVID tests to be rechecked for the new strains.​
"We use the same protocols, so we have comparisons across every test that's on the market, every test that's in development, we can compare them against each other so we have data for everything," said Merchak.​
Experts say it's possible BA.2.86's wide changes might change the performance of some tests, if it grows more prevalent.​
U.K.health authorities said it was "unreliable to attempt to predict the combined effect of the large number of mutations" from BA.2.86, but acknowledged there's enough information "to expect significant antigenic change."​

Will the fall 2023 COVID vaccine boosters work for new COVID variants?
They're expected to be effective. Vaccine makers say they expect the upcoming rollout of new COVID-19 vaccine and booster shots next month will work for EG.5 and FL.1.5.1 as well, since they are closely related to the XBB.1.5 variant targeted by the revised shots recommended by the FDA and WHOearlier this year.​
"We try to select the antigen that will provide the maximum breadth of immunity so that the protection to people is as wide as possible, anticipating that the virus may evolve between the time when the recommendation is issued and the time when the vaccine is produced," the WHO's Dr. Sylvie Briand told reporters on August 9.​
On Aug. 17, Moderna said preliminary results from its human clinical trial data suggest its updated vaccines will trigger a "significant boost in neutralizing antibodies against EG.5 and FL.1.5.1 variants." Pfizer says data from a recent study in mice suggests its vaccine will be effective as well.​
The CDC expects, based on evidence and input from the FDA advisory committee, that "the fall updated vaccines with a monovalent XBB.1.5 composition will best protect public health," Kathleen Conley, a CDC spokesperson, said in a statement August 18.​
It is unclear whether BA.2.86 could upend those plans. Experts say the strain's mutations might be enough to render the upcoming shots "a fairly poor match" if it circulates more widely.​
But for this season, the FDA does not see a need to change up the COVID vaccine recipe, an official said. Another meeting of its outside vaccine advisers on the topic isn't planned until preparation begins for next year's vaccination campaign.​
"Barring the emergence of a markedly more virulent viral variant causing COVID-19, the FDA anticipates revisiting the composition of the vaccine during the first half of 2024," the FDA official said in an Aug. 16 email.​

Get your boosters now! Or else? I don't know but this word salad doesn't really tell me much so I will do the same as I did every time they shilled the vax:Nothing. .
 
If lockdowns come again red states are going to be leaned on hard to comply under the threat of losing all federal funding.
The states shouldn't be accepting federal funding anyway, we should be self sufficient. We can't count on them to come through in times of crisis so we shouldn't accept their dirty money and shouldn't pay federal taxes.
 
Get on an innertube and paddle your way down to Ohio through Lake Erie like Elian Gonzalez and just hide out underneath the porch of a charitable Kiwi somewhere
*takes out pen and paper for notes*
 
*takes out pen and paper for notes*
Also make sure to bring valuable things like drugs and Nintendo DS games for barter. Canadian money just gets you mocked. But if you must you could probably just convert all your money to quarters and slip a few into your regular American cash because Canadian quarters slip into my change all the time
 
If lockdowns come again red states are going to be leaned on hard to comply under the threat of losing all federal funding.
The fed is broke, and BRICS is going to usurp the USD. Threatening to withhold funding from states is an empty threat.

If they do start doing lockdowns we're just going to have to start killing politicians. I hate that shit. Can't have that.
 
I can't be the only one who thinks they're going to come with something much more dangerous than version 37 of Covid. TPTB are sensing an existential threat to their plans, no way they go down without flipping the table over.
I figure if all the election rigging, legal cases, and lockdown 2 dont keep trump out if office they'll release something from a Ukrainian bio lab. Then they'll blame trump and putin and try to get him out of office so they can declare open war with russia.
 
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I figure if all the election rigging, legal cases, and lockdown 2 dont keep trump out if office they'll release something from a Ukrainian bio lab. Then they'll blame trump and putin and try to get him out of office so they can declare open war with russia.

I'm starting to think that the seasonal flu variants we had for years with the associated seasonal flu vaccines, were a seasonal release. I remember hearing the seasonal flu variants always started in Asia then spread worldwide every year. Which would correlate with COVID-19 and the NIH funded lab in Wuhan.
 
I'm starting to think that the seasonal flu variants we had for years with the associated seasonal flu vaccines, were a seasonal release. I remember hearing the seasonal flu variants always started in Asia then spread worldwide every year. Which would correlate with COVID-19 and the NIH funded lab in Wuhan.
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The rate at which tinfoil hatters have been getting predictions right this is 100% plausible.
 
It is unclear whether BA.2.86 could upend those plans. Experts say the strain's mutations might be enough to render the upcoming shots "a fairly poor match" if it circulates more widely.But for this season, the FDA does not see a need to change up the COVID vaccine recipe, an official said. Another meeting of its outside vaccine advisers on the topic isn't planned until preparation begins for next year's vaccination campaign.
Classic problem with flu vaccines too.
"The next big scary wave will come in september 2024 and last till december, so remember to vote by mail, it's for your security goy"
It's not a conspiracy, it's similar to how colds and flu spread more during the colder months.
If we tested for the flu at the same intensity, we'd have a new flu pandemic every year.
Except we do, that's how it works...
 
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If lockdowns come back it won't be covid and people will comply if they use a bigger carrot and less stick.

"Stay at home and be paid 100% of your wages". Who would say no?
 
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In a society ran by liars, the honest will always suffer.
It was always another cold. It had an affinity for the old and fat, but if the authorities hadn't been constantly testing every fucker who sneezed or had a temperature (and then intubating and ventilating everyone who had a slight cough, guaranteeing their death), it would have been perceived as just an unusually strong wave of the common cold. The "pandemic" was entirely an artefact of testing with inappropriate techniques, or highly inaccurate tests. If we tested for the flu at the same intensity, we'd have a new flu pandemic every year.

The thing is, you are pinning all of this down on a comedy of incompetent errors when I say you can only blame so much on it until you start to notice some of this shit is done on purpose.
The Pandemic was a fucking disaster, sure, but its always a happy little accident to people in power. They might be evil but they are smart and they know how retards act so its easy to create a plan when you control almost all sectors of society.
You people need to stop pretending like the lockdowns will ever fucking happen again. This is the 11th time there was a "new variant", people don't give a fuck anymore and they never will.

Personally I dont think they will, however, we cant ignore the fact they are trying and trying VERY hard to bring some of the "good old times" back, even if just some aspects of it like masks. They want you to be afraid again and it all really depends on if every major in their little "game" goes along with it, I mean, its not like last time wasnt filled with its own share of lies and manipulation. Why stop now?
The Climate variant.

Funny you say that because its clear they are trying hard to replace whatever they did with Covid with climate change. Now its all about carbon emissions and how they can recycle the same measures of Covid on this.

Im not saying every fire was caused by an arsonist on their payroll to justify every Covid like measure for "Muh planet" (this dumb rock floating in space like its a fucking living thing)

But if they wanted to do that, what would they do differently?
 
We get flu epidemics yearly, that's why the strains the flu vaccine targets change every year.
You went from talking about pandemics to epidemics, when they aren't the same thing. Besides which, flu is endemic. Most years, what we get is a new minor strain, as a result of either recombination or antigenic shift, to which most of the population is still at least partially immune. That doesn't result in an epidemic by traditional measures, as it doesn't spread fast enough or to enough of the population.

But that's all an aside. My point was, if we were running the same level of population testing as for covid, then every year it would look like tens of millions of people were dying from the flu.
 
You went from talking about pandemics to epidemics, when they aren't the same thing. Besides which, flu is endemic. Most years, what we get is a new minor strain, as a result of either recombination or antigenic shift, to which most of the population is still at least partially immune. That doesn't result in an epidemic by traditional measures, as it doesn't spread fast enough or to enough of the population.

But that's all an aside. My point was, if we were running the same level of population testing as for covid, then every year it would look like tens of millions of people were dying from the flu.
OK, I thought you were saying it doesn't change every year. I don't agree that it doesn't qualify as an epidemic though. The flu vaccines really help it not spread as much or as fast. 💝 I'm glad you agree.
 
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