Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Geranium]

A detransitioner speaks about their reality.

Full thread and discussion from the time:

Twitter thread from a Detrans about his amhole:

For future searchers, this is TullipR / Ritchie Herron.

Trannies mass reported several of his tweets in that thread at the time, to hide what Ritchie was saying.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Has this been posted here before? Not surgery but terrible results from unethical medical care:

https://n.neurology.org/content/100/17_Supplement_2/2660

An otherwise healthy 23-year-old transgender male on one year of testosterone therapy presented in an obtunded state. Examination revealed complete quadriplegia with sparing of vertical eye movements, consistent with locked-in syndrome. ... Unfortunately, the patient was out of the time window for any acute stroke interventions.​

This 23-year-old woman, who is now conscious but completely paralyzed except for vertical eye movements, must be extremely happy that she was able to have her gender affirmed using safe and effective treatments.

Hope the nurses are terfs.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Suicide prevented! Maximum gender euphoria achieved!

Seriously tho I wouldn't be surprised if this happened more often. I read about another case a few years ago. A woman talked about her mtf brother who got a stroke because of HRT when he was a young man 30+ years ago and became paralyzed. He can only move one finger or so. When I read it I didn't believe it but now I understand that these things DO happen and it's fucking horrifying.

Imagine all the dumb men doing DIY Hrt. They don't know that they could become completely paralyzed. Hell, how many already became completely paralyzed? No one will ever know.

I wonder if their outcomes are made worse by the fact that no one around them even suspects a stroke. There are a lot of stroke awareness campaigns, but they are mostly aimed at older people.

And it's not like troons are going to be raising awareness amongst themselves, because any rumors of adverse effects from gender-affirming care are just lies told by bigots. I am a dedicated transphobe and even I wasn't aware that there is such a heightened stroke risk for MtFs until I googled it:

Clot rates were twice as high for all transgender women. But in the key subset that had begun estrogen therapy, the odds of developing a potentially-dangerous clot were 5.1 times greater after two years compared with non-transgender males.... When it came to the risk for developing a stroke caused by a blood clot, the odds for transgender women were 9.9 times higher compared to men in the control group and 4.1 times higher than for women in the control group, based on a follow-up period of more than six years.... It took about two years for the risks to become clear, and they increased over time.​

Hormone therapy poses stroke risk for transgender women

Hormones given to people to align their sex with their gender pose a significant risk of serious blood clots and stroke among transgender women, one of the largest studies of transgender patients has concluded.

www.reuters.com

That's according to a huge study from 2018. Didn't exactly make the headlines at Pink News, though. How many people taking HRT know anything about these results? Even the article itself spends half the time waffling about how the benefits of care probably outweigh the risk.

Moreso with the last line of the case abstract - 'unfortunately the patient was out of the time range of acute stroke intervention'

SO many troons are NEEts. Imagine how long they sat and festered in their dens before being found.

I was thinking about this as well. There's a reason people in relationships live longer. But troons throw away their in-person support network in favor of their internet friends, at precisely the same time they need people around them in case a piece of their brain starts dying.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Has this been posted here before? Not surgery but terrible results from unethical medical care:

https://n.neurology.org/content/100/17_Supplement_2/2660

An otherwise healthy 23-year-old transgender male on one year of testosterone therapy presented in an obtunded state. Examination revealed complete quadriplegia with sparing of vertical eye movements, consistent with locked-in syndrome. ... Unfortunately, the patient was out of the time window for any acute stroke interventions.​

This 23-year-old woman, who is now conscious but completely paralyzed except for vertical eye movements, must be extremely happy that she was able to have her gender affirmed using safe and effective treatments.

How long was she "in an obtunded state" before anyone took her seriously? The line about it being too late for acute interventions makes me think it was quite a long time in stroke terms. I think they're taking about recombinant tissue plasminogen activator (tPA), which is a thrombolytic medication that is given as a single intravenous injection. It "dissolves" the clot blocking the blood vessel in the brain, restoring blood flow to the damaged tissue and reversing some of the effects of the stroke. Since it came to market in the 1990s, tPA has revolutionized acute treatment of stroke and vastly improved patient survival.

It needs to be given as soon as possible, because the longer the tissue is without adequate blood, the larger the damaged area and the more likely it is that the oxygen-starved cells will die. Unlike the other organs, dead brain tissue can't really repair itself by producing new healthy cells, although it tries. If too much of the brain tissue is completely dead, there's no point in administering tPA. The prescribing information indicates that it should be given within 3 hours of the onset of stroke symptoms, but in research settings, benefit has been shown at up to 4.5 hours. In practice, a lot of doctors are willing to fudge it a little and give tPA even if it's been slightly longer, because the benefits in many cases outweigh the risks. Especially in younger patients, the possibility that tPA will reduce at least some of the post-stroke functional deficits mean it's worth a shot, literally and figuratively, even if it's technically been too long. This patient was 23. In my experience, physicians are really willing to pull out all the stops attempting interventions in anyone that young, because they theoretically have so many years left to live and can withstand intensive treatment.

The fact that they concluded intervention would be pointless in an otherwise healthy 23 year old suggests to me she was down for hours, possibly even a day or so. Since she wouldn't have been capable of voluntary movement, she couldn't have called for help herself, so it's not really her fault, but I think that it speaks to how socially isolated she must be. Nobody even thought to check on her? There were no friends or family members who thought it was unusual that she abruptly stopped responding to their texts or calls? She wasn't expected at a job or school? I really want to know the back story on this one.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

This one's so large I genuinely mistook it for her leg when I glanced at the last pic.
u/OperationEggplant

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[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

Suicide prevented! Maximum gender euphoria achieved!

Seriously tho I wouldn't be surprised if this happened more often. I read about another case a few years ago. A woman talked about her mtf brother who got a stroke because of HRT when he was a young man 30+ years ago and became paralyzed. He can only move one finger or so. When I read it I didn't believe it but now I understand that these things DO happen and it's fucking horrifying.

Imagine all the dumb men doing DIY Hrt. They don't know that they could become completely paralyzed. Hell, how many already became completely paralyzed? No one will ever know.

From personal experience many of them do know they aren't long for this world but they just don't care. It's like the mirror image of a bodybuilder doing all them steroids sucking down wind while merely posing for his muscular physique

 

[Procrastinhater]

An article about 3 more had a stroke as well in the the same month of the journal from HRT.

"Two MTF transgender patients on GAHT were treated inpatient for an acute stroke and one was seen in follow up. At the time of infarct, one MTF transgender patient was on combination hormonal therapy, one patient was on combination hormonal therapy and spironolactone, and one patient was on estrogen hormonal therapy of unknown type."

https://n.neurology.org/content/100/17_Supplement_2/3790

Jesus Chris what the fuck?
Is this locked in shit a common thing that can happen to Pooners?
Fucking nightmare fuel, just shows you should not be fucking around giving massive doses of wrong sex hormones to crazy people because pathological tolerance says we should play along with their delusions.
That locked in shit sounds the closest thing to hell on Earth I can imagine.
If I even ended up like that I'd hope one of my loved ones would have the balls to put a round through my head and put me out of my misery.
I'd do it for someone I cared about if they ended up that fucked.
I can't even laugh at that shit.
Tragic Pooners.

 

[moms sock drawer]

She said her flayed flesh rollup has a girth of 7 inches. That is absolutely insane. Consider that she wraps it in an ace bandage like a newborn in a blanket, pitching it up with q-tip scaffolding, we can maybe add an inch or a half to the girth.

For reference, WebMD says that the average girth of an erection is 4.59 inches.

The entry for "phony bologna" in the dictionary has a picture of this flesh log next to it.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

They were uncomfortable & itchy & would generally pop leaking non-urine white (cum like) fluid. Weird but manageable

THAT'S PUS, YOU PORN SICK RETARD. She really compared pus to cum, oh my god.

 

[General Disarray]

With the news of people stroking out with HRT, it makes me think of an old friend of mine.

Spoiler: Story time!

When I left the state, my friend was a very man's man type, owned a tattoo shop in Vegas and a bar in the my city, always in a suit, reputed to be a mob enforcer. When I came back about 5 years later, I asked about him at the local watering hole and the bartender pointed to an individual at the end of the bar. With frazzled, dyed-red hair, a gaunt but still very strong frame with his tatted sleeves showing through a sheer blouse and leopard print skirt sat my friend.

Meh, he was always a little off, we still had a blast - and he paid me big money for getting BC pills for him as well as paid 1:1 on food stamps to stock the juices and sodas in the bar. He also hired me to clean the joint three times a week. When I called one day and was told he had passed, I was really saddened. Never knew why, assumed he got drunk as per usual and fell or whatever (he was not dainty in his heels lmao). Now I am wondering if I indirectly contributed to him stroking out.

He was a fucking cool cat and I miss helping dress him up for Sunday Funday drinking nights, getting chauffeured around town in his classic Corvette hitting all the gay clubs and drinking for free. He was always just himself, never got into anyone's face about calling him his real name, and would still lift a man by the throat if they acted up in his bar, stiletto nails notwithstanding. The only tranny I knew and liked - and was definitely touched with mental illness. RIP friend.

 

[Otterly]

Yip. Same with puberty blockers like Zoladex that are used in women for things like endometriosis, they can only be used for 6 months due to their risk of osteoporosis but they're shooting kids up with them for fuck knows how long?

There’s a huge number of women who have had their lives wrecked by even a couple of months of these drugs.

A guy with a horribly botched amhole is asking if he can have the labia minora that "sloughed off" put back on in a revision surgery:

The first two loaded faster and I was thinking well that’s not the worst I’ve seen. Then the final one loaded.

How many people taking HRT know anything about these results?

Can any legal kiwis answer this - what’s the deal with informed consent that leaves out significant results like this? By that I mean they all have to give informed consent to hormones right? But that’s dine these days more as a disclaimer than a real consent. If docs are aware of literature that states there’s a ten times higher risk of stroke, and they’re not putting this in the consent forms - what’s the liability?
If a patient is told all the risks and says he understands and wants to do it anyway, that’s one thing. But if they deliberately leave out critical info or bias it, how liable is the doc?
I ask because I’m my line of work, this (consent without full and impartial discussion of risks known and suspected) would be extremely serious.
Does it open a space to sue?

 

[Geranium]

Can any legal kiwis answer this - what’s the deal with informed consent that leaves out significant results like this? By that I mean they all have to give informed consent to hormones right? But that’s dine these days more as a disclaimer than a real consent. If docs are aware of literature that states there’s a ten times higher risk of stroke, and they’re not putting this in the consent forms - what’s the liability?
If a patient is told all the risks and says he understands and wants to do it anyway, that’s one thing. But if they deliberately leave out critical info or bias it, how liable is the doc?
I ask because I’m my line of work, this (consent without full and impartial discussion of risks known and suspected) would be extremely serious.
Does it open a space to sue?

Stroke's on the list that Planned Parenthood give to MtFs, just another bullet point:

 

[Otterly]

Stroke's on the list that Planned Parenthood give to MtFs, just another bullet point:
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And there’s no need for them to talk through these risks? If we consent a patient into a trial we have to discuss that. So it’d be ‘your risk of stroke increases, we aren’t completely sure by how much but studies range between x and y amount.’ You can’t just say increases, you also have to explain what that means.
Mind you PP aren’t exactly ethics experts

 

[Geranium]

And there’s no need for them to talk through these risks?

My understanding is that you show up to a Planned Parenthood clinic, sign the form, and then you get the cross-sex hormones. That's why people like my boy Tony Reed love "informed consent" so much.

 

[OrionBalls]

Stroke's on the list that Planned Parenthood give to MtFs, just another bullet point:
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There's an increase in blood clots when on birth control. But that's usually to the legs. And women being on birth control os usually preferred to men wearing a condom or getting a reversible vasectomy.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

The idea of being locked in is horrific. What a sad end, I can’t even find that funny, it’s just pure horror

Disagree, I'm already imagining Super Quad Pooner and her antics.

blag your family and all your friends head in, with the absolute instructions to help you die should you ever be in am unresponsive state long term

That's called an advance directive in a lot of places and you can choose to not receive life sustaining care if you end up a quad or with locked in syndrome. That way, the next inevitable lung infection will take her out. You can never go wrong by having an advance directive.

Hope the nurses are terfs.

tfw when misgendered but can't get the nurse fired because can't communicate in any way.

Meh, he was always a little off, we still had a blast - and he paid me big money for getting BC pills for him as well as paid 1:1 on food stamps to stock the juices and sodas in the bar. He also hired me to clean the joint three times a week. When I called one day and was told he had passed, I was really saddened. Never knew why, assumed he got drunk as per usual and fell or whatever (he was not dainty in his heels lmao). Now I am wondering if I indirectly contributed to him stroking out.

He sounded like a decent guy. There's so many scumbags in scenes like that that will rip you off for almost nothing. He sounded like a true friend. Don't blame yourself for him having a stroke. There's so many factors that can contribute and the majority of the population have at least some of the risk factors.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Locked in syndrome is tranny quarantine.

Think about it: As horrible as it is, the tranny cult is even worse. A more or less healthy tranny (except mental illness of course) is able to groom, manipulate and harm multiple people. And the people that have been groomed will hurt and/or kill themselves and groom and hurt others and so on.

It's horrible for the pooner in the study but trannies are a destructive force so who knows how many people have been saved by that roid stroke.

 

[Autistic Joe]

A guy with a horribly botched amhole is asking if he can have the labia minora that "sloughed off" put back on in a revision surgery:

Spoiler: Nightmare flesh-cave under the cut

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"I did not budget for a revision" <---- Well, tough shit, bro

Love browsing on Tor. First picture loads... hmm looks fine.

Second picture loads... wait why does he need revision, this doesn't look bad, in fact it's a lot better than most.

My face when the third picture loads...

WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO, SIT ON A FUCKING GRENADE?!

> how could I go about getting a revision to add back the labia minora that I lost?
Try the deli counter.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

There’s a huge number of women who have had their lives wrecked by even a couple of months of these drugs.

The first two loaded faster and I was thinking well that’s not the worst I’ve seen. Then the final one loaded.

Can any legal kiwis answer this - what’s the deal with informed consent that leaves out significant results like this? By that I mean they all have to give informed consent to hormones right? But that’s dine these days more as a disclaimer than a real consent. If docs are aware of literature that states there’s a ten times higher risk of stroke, and they’re not putting this in the consent forms - what’s the liability?
If a patient is told all the risks and says he understands and wants to do it anyway, that’s one thing. But if they deliberately leave out critical info or bias it, how liable is the doc?
I ask because I’m my line of work, this (consent without full and impartial discussion of risks known and suspected) would be extremely serious.
Does it open a space to sue?

Not in the med field or legal, but my mom was an RN for hospice stuff and handled a lot of legal stuff. To not put in the exact warnings is more than sue worthy. You can get fucking disbarred, lose your license to operate and get sent to fucking prison. You have to put wvery last fucking warning down to a T, it's why all medicine commercials in the US have a warning label longer than the actual commercial itself. Not only that, you'll get blackballed in that industry and be lucky to even hold a pair of tweasers for a doctor again.

 

[One Quick Post]

locked-in syndrome

DARKNESS
IMPRISONING ME
SO I CAN BE
ABSOLUTE POONER
I CANNOT COPE
I CANNOT SNEED
TRAPPED IN MYSELF
AT LEAST I HAVE NO REGRETS