Chris's incest charge is dismissed

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Ultrapenguin said:
I think you mean he was guilty of consentual incest with a caregiver who had groomed a slow-in-the-mind into a completely inappropriate relationship for years.
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Yeah people are either forgetting or deliberately ignoring that Barb had been coercing and guilting Chris into sleeping in the same bed as her and outright cuddling with her in the years immediately after Bob's death, and that Chris had expressed his discomfort with this. I can't imagine that this didn't mess with his already messed up sense of boundaries. I'm also not that convinced of Barb's alleged senility and "being completely unaware," considering her past schemes and the fact that she's apparently been living on her own for the past two years. If she legitimately is out of her mind, then what happened is terrible, but otherwise this was her getting bit by the beast that she created. Furthermore, I'm not totally convinced that these weren't consensual interactions.
 
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LiquidKid said:
I think you quoted me by mistake, I wasn’t shocked or surprised in the slightest. My posts was about the legal potential of Chris beignets compensated for his unusually long jail time
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No, I lumped in all the ones I saw that were surprised or off-base, and didn't separate them out. If Chris's time in jail was part of a voluntary agreement (which deferrals/diversions are), then there would be no cause of action about that incarceration. Jail time for a conviction on the incest charge could have been longer than the ~18 months he spent there.

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I love what your spellcheck did to "being." I have very fond memories of beignet sellers on beaches in the South of France. Deep-fried pastries dusted with confectioners' sugar can never be wrong. :biggrin:
 
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@AnOminous could probably explain this (assuming he hasn't already), but I can't say I'm surprised by this dismissal.

The evidence that could've convicted him was actually quite flimsy. Sure, he said freely that he had sexual relations with his dementia addled mother, but when there are literally no other witnesses willing to testify (did Janke or any of the other trolls produce legal statements?), there's little prosecution could do to verify and build a case. After all, how do we know he wasn't having a psychotic episode? He was admitted and given intense psychiatric care during this whole ordeal. He is on the autism spectrum.

What separates Chris from Sick Nick is that the latter had a witness who testified. In Sick Nick's case, the victim and witness went through the proper channels to arrest and convict her rapist. CPS got involved and evidence was produced. The only thing that could've saved his ass (and this is a remote possibility) is if he denied the authenticity of the chatlogs and didn't send the criminal investigators footage of him masturbating with feces. Since there are no custodians of records for the chatlogs, deniability would be entirely plausible. Of course, Nick was too stupid to realize this and sent his own ass to 15+ years behind bars.

This isn't a defense of CWC. Just trying to contextualize this dismissal.
 
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I assume Chris' attorney wore down the State of Virginia (the prosecution). I mean, the state had to prove it's case against Chris.
The first witness to the crime would be the victim, Barb. Barb couldn't tell you if she is afoot or horseback due to her dementia. So basically, her testimony would be worthless if it would even be possible to get her on the stand to describe her "rape". Good luck with that.

Then there is the Perp's own self incriminating statements. Once again, good luck with that. Chris' own attorney would have no problem showing that Chris is mentally ill/autistic/delulu. How could you argue the veracity of Chris' statements when he also proclaims to be Jesus. This case was unwinnable and Chris had already cost Virginia plenty of money for his room and board.

Not sure why charges were even brought.
Next arc, please. thanks.

eta: ninja'd by @RichardMongler
 
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RichardMongler said:
@AnOminous could probably explain this (assuming he hasn't already), but I can't say I'm surprised by this dismissal.

The evidence that could've convicted him was actually quite flimsy. Sure, he said freely that he had sexual relations with his dementia addled mother, but when there are literally no other witnesses willing to testify (did Janke or any of the other trolls produce legal statements?), there's little prosecution could do to verify and build a case. After all, how do we know he wasn't having a psychotic episode? He was admitted and given intense psychiatric care during this whole ordeal. He is on the autism spectrum.

What separates Chris from Sick Nick is that the latter had a witness who testified. In Sick Nick's case, the victim and witness went through the proper channels to arrest and convict her rapist. CPS got involved and evidence was produced. The only thing that could've saved his ass (and this is a remote possibility) is if he denied the authenticity of the chatlogs and didn't send the criminal investigators footage of him masturbating with feces. Since there are no custodians of records for the chatlogs, deniability would be entirely plausible. Of course, Nick was too stupid to realize this and sent his own ass to 15+ years behind bars.

This isn't a defense of CWC. Just trying to contextualize this dismissal.
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Chris technically was behind bars for over a year and a half, so it could be possible that the jury decided to dismiss Chris over the penalty proposed being shorter than the time he already served in jail.

And just when we thought it was finally over... Chris finds a way. Expect more weens going after him in 3... 2... 1...
 
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Marvin said:
It's a crime in Virginia too. That's what Chris was charged with. He wasn't charged with rape, just incest.

My point was that incest isn't a "sex crime" that requires registration.
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It can be. It would depend on whether Barb were deemed by the court* physically helpless or mentally incapacitated:
https://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/statutes.html

From the above (sorry for stupid formatting/ I c&p from the table at the cited site):

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The following list contains the specific section of the Code of Virginia and the literal offense for which registration as a Sex Offender is required.


Where the victim is a minor or is physically helpless or mentally incapacitated as defined in §18.2-67.10, a violation or attempted violation of:
Adultery & Fornication by Person Forbidden to Marry: Incest 18.3-366​

*for purposes of registry requirements, I believe preponderance-standard analysis of physical helplessness or mental incapacity is required of the court even if incapacity was not alleged as part of the charges.

But that's all moot now.
 
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