Race superiority is fucking dumb

[Noble Redditor]

Mass shooters are overwhelmingly white males

A stupid anti white talking point that proves absolutely nothing AND is also wrong. The media reports about white mass shooters more. Every LGBTQMP journo and reddit mod loves talking about white mass shooters as if it means anything. The way the media and faggots talk about white mass shooters you would think it's the most important issue in the country and maybe even the entire world. Truthfully it's just one of the only things they can use to distract from black crime - and it's not even true!!

There are more "mass shootings" in Chicago and Detroit on a weekly (daily?) basis than all mass shootings carried out by whites in a DECADE. It happens several times a day. As the anti white narrative becomes more accepted, the definition of mass shooter becomes more narrow. For example a mass shooting used to be defined as three or more people, now it's four. The shots have to result in fatalities. A black man spraying his assault rifles into a crowd after someone scuffed his Js doesn't count. Even if he put fifteen people in the hospital there were no deaths so therefore it doesn't count as a mass shooting. They no longer count mass shootings that resulted from other crimes. If someone robbed a bank and killed six people in the process that is not considered a mass shooting. If a gang dispute spirals into shots fired and five people die it's not considered a mass shooting. Soon they'll change the definition even more so that only premeditated shootings will be counted.

School shootings is a big one too. Nobody wants to talk about how 99% of school shootings are nig nogs shooting their classmates in gang warfare or other petty street beef. There have been metal detectors in inner city schools long before Columbine.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Did you guys hear about the racial superiority of deez?

 

[Stan]

You're losing credibility at an accelerated pace.

Okay how is Fox News anti-white, then, or, how is the major news network not part of the MSM

Lol mad nigger lover

“How to win an argument by SSJness:
1. Make unsubstantiated racist remarks
2. Double down
3. Accuse your opponent of cherry picking; cherry pick your own facts and figures
4. Claim that you’ve been stabbed by a minority. When asked for details, clarify you only *nearly* got stabbed. Provide no further context to the your story.
5. If that doesn’t work, put words in your opponent’s mouth, saying what you wish you could say and pretending they said it.
5. Call your opponent a nigger lover when they ask why they’re misquoting you and ranting about big black cock
6. Argument won! You can go back to jacking off to BBC cuck porn

What race are you?

No comment. You can find this out quite easily.

Just continue to ignore that mass shootings by whites do not actually account for much gun deaths lmao. And it's not like there's not plenty of senseless nigger violence, it's not all gang shit (as if that excuses it anyway LOL).

There’s plenty of senseless white violence, too. Like you said earlier, no race is totally free from violence.

However, unlike what you said before, most violence isn’t interracial but intraracial; meaning white men are more likely to hurt other whites and black men other blacks. This is probably a function of social psychology (you’re more likely to have beef with someone you know/lives in your neighborhood than someone who doesn’t), but the white moids prove the exception to the rule when they decide to senselessly murder random people to “prove” whites are superior.

White supremacists are the lowest of the low. When you’re looking to glorify your race to make yourself feel better it’s likely there’s very little else going right in your life. QED @SSj_Ness is chimping out on Kiwi Farms about black people while I was at church.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Deeeeeeeeeeeeez nuts.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

Cultural heritage should be the priority. We should embrace the art of being Homo sapiens and reject niggerdom.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

There’s plenty of senseless white violence, too. Like you said earlier, no race is totally free from violence.

What a fucking tool you are. Going by the "4+ people is a mass shooting" metric, the stats are overwhelmingly black people.

You repeat the same "mass shooters are mostly white people" line the media has fed you, then when called on it, you try to worm out with "b-but white people can be violent too".

 

[RollerGator]

Here’s more:
> white man attacks grocery store in black neighborhood kid Buffalo NY. Ten dead.
> white man attacks two black customers at Kroger in louisville KY
> white man kills black teen in Kansas City after the victim mistook the gunmans house for his friend’s house down the street

Statistically blacks are responsible for the majority of interracial violence.

White supremacists are the lowest of the low.

So you're a big fan of black supremacists?

 

[Stan]

A stupid anti white talking point that proves absolutely nothing AND is also wrong. The media reports about white mass shooters more. Every LGBTQMP journo and reddit mod loves talking about white mass shooters as if it means anything. The way the media and faggots talk about white mass shooters you would think it's the most important issue in the country and maybe even the entire world. Truthfully it's just one of the only things they can use to distract from black crime - and it's not even true!!

There are more "mass shootings" in Chicago and Detroit on a weekly (daily?) basis than all mass shootings carried out by whites in a DECADE. It happens several times a day. As the anti white narrative becomes more accepted, the definition of mass shooter becomes more narrow. For example a mass shooting used to be defined as three or more people, now it's four. The shots have to result in fatalities. A black man spraying his assault rifles into a crowd after someone scuffed his Js doesn't count. Even if he put fifteen people in the hospital there were no deaths so therefore it doesn't count as a mass shooting. They no longer count mass shootings that resulted from other crimes. If someone robbed a bank and killed six people in the process that is not considered a mass shooting. If a gang dispute spirals into shots fired and five people die it's not considered a mass shooting. Soon they'll change the definition even more so that only premeditated shootings will be counted.

School shootings is a big one too. Nobody wants to talk about how 99% of school shootings are nig nogs shooting their classmates in gang warfare or other petty street beef. There have been metal detectors in inner city schools long before Columbine.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/school-shootings-what-we-know-about-them-and-what-we-can-do-to-prevent-them/

We found that the majority of school shooters are male (95%) and white (61%)–yet many of these individuals feel marginalized. Indeed, almost half of those who perpetrate K-12 shootings report a history of rejection, with many experiencing bullying. One 16-year-old shooter wrote, “I feel rejected, rejected, not so much alone, but rejected. I feel this way because the day-to-day treatment I get usually it’s positive but the negative is like a cut, it doesn’t go away really fast.” Prior to the Parkland shooting, the perpetrator said, “I had enough of being—telling me that I’m an idiot and a dumbass.” A 14-year-old shooter stated in court, “I felt like I wasn’t wanted by anyone, especially my mom.” These individuals felt rejected and insignificant.

This from the Brookings Institute, which non-insane people find credible.

What a fucking tool you are. Going by the "4+ people is a mass shooting" metric, the stats are overwhelmingly black people.

You repeat the same "mass shooters are mostly white people" line the media has fed you, then when called on it, you try to worm out with "b-but white people can be violent too".

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/public-mass-shootings-database-amasses-details-half-century-us-mass-shootings

Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.

> mfs can't math
It's not astroturfed, these numbers are coming from DOJ. Not some random news agency.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

for what it’s worth I lived in Washington Heights in NYC (majority Hispanic neighborhood) and went to grad school in Harlem (majority Black neighborhood), and I wasn’t victimized by a Hispanic or black man, nor was the annoyance-level crime (ie panhandlers, buskers, pickpockets) more pronounced or pernicious than it was in majority white neighborhoods like the Village or SoHo or the FiDi.

Lol, I agree with you - there's crime all over Manhattan (or anywhere), though of varying sorts - but it's funny to say (presumably) Columbia is "in Harlem." It is, but the area right around Columbia is different [and pretty damn white right around the school]. And Washington Heights, too, is an okay neighborhood, though like everywhere, pockets vary. But be real: 78th & Madison vs 145th St. are different experiences. That's down to differences in (for residents : ) money, education, ethos in the neighborhood, personal lifetime circumstances and expectations, and need/abundance; and (governmentally: ) resources, policing, relative opportunity/ ease, and relative likelihood of arrest and prosecution.

(And OT I have never heard "FiDi" in all my life, and hope I never do again. That abbreviation is dumb and should die.)

Come live in the ghetto with me, it's not nice here.

Why don't you just move? I hear that's the usual advice for people stuck in shit conditions.

IQ tests are culturally biased towards Westerners. Not intentionally but because the people putting the test together are all westerners

Not meaningfully. IQ tests are designed to assess a certain type of ability or aptitude/reasoning, not do a holistic assessment of an individual's strengths, or of ability to survive or succeed in every type of community. That a standard IQ test might not be too useful or precise in assessing native intelligence of the type the assessments are intended to assess if dealing with Afghani tribesmen or an isolated Amazonian tribe that has very different concepts of reasoning/values in thought, or even numbers, is...sort of a pointless point. And Western derivation doesn't seem to present issues reliably assessing (e.g.) Far East Asians, at least those from homes/education/culture that values logic/critical reasoning of the sort IQ tests incorporate.

The problem with focusing on "bias" is that the word itself has become so toxic and used in a way that suggests total invalidity, rather merely understanding purpose, limitations, and application. It also implies that there is no way to adapt administration, or that no one ever does. As used, it implies the assessments are both meaningless and unfair, and even that what they assess is a poor measure of anything, even in the cultures (most) where those traits are valued or indicative of high personal performance...with the "logical" outcome argument that they and their results should be outright discarded or at least minimized to irrelevance. This is a bad take. They are fit for purpose in general, for the extreme bulk of people for whom they are administered. It's a measure of certain aptitude and functionality.

...Dylan Roof because it's one of the only examples of white on black violence you could conjure up.

Are you absolutely fucking retarded?

most violence isn’t interracial but intraracial

Correct. Per the FBI, the rate of Black-on-Black homicide (in 2019) is about 78.99% of total homicides committed by Black people, and the rate of white-on-white homicide is about 87.99% of total homicides committed by white people. Overall, between those two groups, the rate of B/w homicide specifically is about 17.58% (of B-committed homicide) and the rate of w/B homicide is about 8.34% (of B-committed homicide).

Also side-notable is that the rate of white (any ethnicity)-on-Hispanic/Latino homicide (759, or 30.38% of total homicides by white people) is 5.52x the rate of Black (any ethnicity)-on-Hispanic/Latino homicide (177, or 5.5% of total homicides by Black people). In raw number ratio, white people commit homicide vs Hispanics 4.28x (759 vs 177) more than Black people do.

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

 

[Otterly]

Counterpoint, man isn't a animal, a wild beast. It's a thinking sapient person. Your genetic differences don't change how you treat a person, your choices do. Anyone can be a asshole and anyone can be nice. Culture and environment certainly influence that, but at the end of the day, it's up to you.

Individuals vs cultures I guess. I try to take people as I find them. If someone’s decent I don’t really care what colour they are. There’s good and bad of every race.
I think the root of our current troubles is that we are expecting to rip down the boundaries between cultures and have no problems and that’s unreasonable. Mass movement has created clashes that are unresolvable without one group getting erased.
If you have a roughly homogenous culture, the ‘forriners’ in it (as long as they behave) will be treated well, as curiosities perhaps, but not with hatred. If you flood their culture with others they’re going to hate you.
Good fences make good neighbours. I am sure that fifty years ago a Brit living on the Costa deal sol would have been treated like an eccentric but pleasant creature. Nowadays half the mafia and IRA have moved there, it’s colloquially called the costa del crime and they rightly dislike us. Same with people coming over here. There’s a threshold - below that you’re a small number of people and above it you’re a threat. I would imagine this has been the case with every movement ever.
As for superiority - personally I prefer a scandi, or British culture over say a Saudi one. Some cultures are more civilised than others by our benchmarks. It’s not done these days to say anything other than all cultures are equal, but they are not, and anyone saying they are goes strangely silent when asked why they’ve not moved to rural Afghanistan or the outback.
Look at something like ancient Persia, creating empires, or Ancient Rome, or industrial Britain. If the benchmark is civilisation building some cultures are better at it. If the benchmark is survival in harsh environments then a different set of cultures comes out on top. The ancient indus cultures were highly advanced and yet now we have people in the same place burning a girl they just gang raped alive in a furnace. It’s more complicated that just colour, it’s the culture itself that elevates.
Two people brought up and educated in modern America aren’t really having the same argument - they are of the same overarching culture even if their skin is different. At that point they’re just being assholes to each other, and people of all cultures are pretty good at that.
There is nothing wrong at all with wanting to live in an homogenous culture with people who are similar to you. The idea that that makes you a murderous nazi supremacist whatever is laughable. Demonising that is very new - twenty years ago it was accepted as the norm. It was also not done to be rude to your local Chinese takeout operator or Indian colleague, and all in all people were far less racist. The modern day insanity about race relations is new, and weird and quite horrible.
I do t see how we put this genie back in the bottle.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Are you absolutely fucking retarded?

So your response is to pull out stock images of slavery brutality from 150+ years ago? I don't think that's the "own" you think it is.

 

[Stan]

Statistically blacks are responsible for the majority of interracial violence.

So you're a big fan of black supremacists?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

I'm a big fan of objective facts and the truth, as opposed to made-up bullshit and bigotry. I'm a big fan of arguments based in civility and fact instead of assertations that your pie-in-the-sky stories "raped [me] in the butthole, Bubba-style." I'm pretty sure if you feel the need to say things like that, you are not winning the debate. At least that's what they taught me in debate club.

I'm not particularly for or against black people. For the most part I don't find "black people" to be a very useful concept - there's a significant difference between a black person who was born in America, whose parents were born in America, so on and so forth until you get five generations back to when their ancestors were chattel slaves, and black people who were born in Africa and immigrate.

I find "white people" to be an even less useful concept: Are Russians 'white'? Are Poles 'white'? Because not so long ago, Benjamin Franklin wrote:

And since Detachments of English from Britain sent to America, will have their Places at Home so soon supply’d and increase so largely here; why should the Palatine Boors [Germans] be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionally very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

So according to our 100-dollar founding father, Swedes are nonwhite, they are "swarthy". Germans, Italians, French, and Spanish, ditto. I don't need to tell you that the Irish were considered nonwhite not 125 years ago. (Empirically speaking about skin tone, there is actually no paler nationality than the Irish.) I know white-passing people born in Morocco and Bulgaria. Are they white or not?

Whiteness is a shibboleth. There's this joke from Family Guy where a police officer holds up a paint chip to Peter's face to assess his whiteness. I wish that the real procedure of determining someone's race was more objective than that, but it isn't. Racism is the lowest form of prejudice, since you're not judging people by their actions, their words, their beliefs, or their character, but by a trait over which they have no control.

 

[Shidoen]

What's with all the nigger worship in this thread. Begone Negromancers.

 

[Stan]

(And OT I have never heard "FiDi" in all my life, and hope I never do again. That abbreviation is dumb and should die.)

It's a real estate thing, and yes it's dumb.

but it's funny to say (presumably) Columbia is "in Harlem."

I attended The City College of New York; it's a public university located about 20 blocks north of Columbia University

But be real: 78th & Madison vs 145th St. are different experiences. That's down to differences in (for residents : ) money, education, ethos in the neighborhood, personal lifetime circumstances and expectations, and need/abundance; and (governmentally: ) resources, policing, relative opportunity/ ease, and relative likelihood of arrest and prosecution.

I agree entirely, Upper East Side is the wealthiest part and Harlem not so much. unfortunately NYC is actually extremely segregated when it comes to this sort of thing, as an inheritance of redlining. Black people were simply not allowed to purchase housing in certain neighborhoods, no matter how well off they were.

Nigger lover cucks like you love bringing up Dylan Roof because it's one of the only examples of white on black violence you could conjure up.

Hmm actually I can think of a few others of more recent vintage:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Philando_Castile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ahmaud_Arbery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor

Emmett Till - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.

Would you like me to continue?

 

[Shidoen]

@Stan
Which of the killings you listed were justified?

 

[Stan]

Oh I have access to it, I just assumed you had the modicum of intellect to know how to search online for papers given the full name and authors are right there. But I appreciate that you don't actually research.

Ah yes, once more, no arguments whatsoever are given. I can truly see the nuance in the story.
But I am sure he understands the numerous examples in Chinese and Greek history of societies with ceteris paribus material conditions diverging immensely.

If you people don't even read my links before dismissing them as MSM astroturf, why do you expect me to track down papers you merely post the abstract for? Give me the whole freaking article, the first time around, and I'll be happy to read it, but I am not doing your homework for you.

@Stan
Which of the killings you listed were justified?

You tell me retard. Was it the civil rights leader? The lady sleeping in her apartment when police served a no-knock warrant for her bf? The teenager who complimented a white lady in public? Or maybe it’s the guy selling loose cigarettes in the park. To your eyes I expect all of these people deserved death based on their race.

 

[Shidoen]

If you people don't even read my links before dismissing them as MSM astroturf, why do you expect me to track down papers you merely post the abstract for? Give me the whole freaking article, the first time around, and I'll be happy to read it, but I am not doing your homework for you.

You tell me retard.

Breonna Taylor was involved with a drug dealer who shot first at the officers and she was simply killed in the crossfire. George Floyd, well we all know he was a drug fiend and simply died because he couldn't handle his dose. Philando Castile mentioned to the officer he had a weapon in the glove department and after a few words he was shot dead. Don't try to get me started on black on black, black on white, or white on black crimes. I lived through it enough to not be disarmed by sympathy.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

I really do not know where to begin with this. This @Stan fellow actually seeks to equivocate the epidemic of black violence and racial violence by citing school shootings. School shootings, although become more common because of the copycat phenomenon and an increasingly dystopic "society" that drives more and more people past the brink insanity, are exceedingly rare. Black violence is an every day fact of life in Amiland, particularly places like Chicago, Baltimore, St Louis, etc, etc. It happens every hour of every day.
Then he makes appeals to matters like Arbery matter, Eric Garner, even including wikipedia articles to Emmett TIll and Saint Martin Luther King Jr.
Jared Taylor, John Derbyshire, and many others have offered very persuasive rebuttals on the convention wisdom of these cases. The Arbery matter was an absolute miscarriage of justice. Andrew Branca did analysis of the now repealed Georgia statute as well as a breakdown of the film. The guy can be a boomer twat and has some bad takes (especially his penchant for "oh you only have 118 followers on twitter, block per SOP hurr durr), but his analysis was rock solid on this matter.
Did not Devon Stack do an insomnia stream on what an utter crock the Emmit TIll bit was? If not others have. People can seek them out or not. It woud be an all day chore to marshall all the links and articles to rebut this Young Turks tier level willful ignorance about matters of race and I just do not have time or the inclination. I may post any edition of the Insomnia Stream covering Emmit Till if I find it in a quick, cursory review of his excellent catalogue.

Until next time, some memeses.

 

[Shidoen]

Also, @Stan you would be right to assume I am racist because I would never deny the claim. I will deny that I thought the deaths were justified due to race, simply the ones I listed placed themselves with their own actions in circumstances that resulted in their deaths. Funny thing is I'm more of a Malcolm X fan than an MLK one, X was closer to the answer of racial unity than King.

 

[Waifu Denier]

If you people don't even read my links before dismissing them as MSM astroturf, why do you expect me to track down papers you merely post the abstract for? Give me the whole freaking article, the first time around, and I'll be happy to read it, but I am not doing your homework for you.

You have literally not provided a single link supporting Jared Diamond's thesis, you have not even made any real arguments, whereas I have provided actual rebuttals and real links to studies. The onus is on you to support your laughable idol.