Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

The galaxy needs a strong, centralized leadership to remain a unified entity but the Emperor fucked up by making it a cult of personality. They should have done what the Cardassians did and had a more bureaucratic fascist state. Anything short of that and the galaxy will fracture into thousands of small nations.

Besides, try making fashwave music videos with scenes with rebels fighting.
To paraphrase G0-T0, bureaucracy is just committing slower, more boring crimes. The Old Republic's--both of them--problems was that thousands of years of bad decisions compounded on each other to the point it became unstable. Even if Palpy wasn't the mastermind behind everything, the Old Republic was still a government that let supranational corporations commit acts of war on member states with no unified, central military to resolve disputes. "The courts take longer than the Senate," Queen Amidala said, meaning that the legal avenues to solve disputes were useless. Valorum was still a weak executive who only had the tepid support of the Jedi Council to act. Bureaucracy and gridlock is what doomed the Old Republic and Palpy took advantage of the situation.
 
I watched the clips of Anakin in what I assume is the latest episode. I really like Hayden with a lightsaber, the choreography looks pretty good, but I didnt like the Ahsoka choreography. Anakins power move on this bridge was pretty cool.

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Not interested in the show at all though since I never saw clone wars.

I started to watch the whole episode because I heard all the fuss about Anakin fighting again. I haven't watched the earlier episodes so I don't know why a single mom twi'lek whore is allowed to be a general and bring her kid along on military operations. Having a forest moon full of Ewoks makes a thousand times more sense.
 
To paraphrase G0-T0, bureaucracy is just committing slower, more boring crimes. The Old Republic's--both of them--problems was that thousands of years of bad decisions compounded on each other to the point it became unstable. Even if Palpy wasn't the mastermind behind everything, the Old Republic was still a government that let supranational corporations commit acts of war on member states with no unified, central military to resolve disputes. "The courts take longer than the Senate," Queen Amidala said, meaning that the legal avenues to solve disputes were useless. Valorum was still a weak executive who only had the tepid support of the Jedi Council to act. Bureaucracy and gridlock is what doomed the Old Republic and Palpy took advantage of the situation.
It was a dispute over the taxation of trade routes!

They didn't listen to Ron Paul in a galaxy far, far away either

Or Alex Jones what with making all those clones

See what happens
 
try making fashwave music videos with scenes with rebels fighting
Counterpoint: Turbofolk fits the Rebels better than it does the Empire
the Old Republic was still a government that let supranational corporations commit acts of war on member states with no unified, central military to resolve disputes
The Old Republic only stood for as long as it did because the Jedi were taking care of enough problems to keep it from falling apart, by taking them out of the picture Palpatine ensured that any government that tried to replace him would eventually fail because they wouldn't have an army of mystic space-ronin to keep them out of a collapse spiral.
 
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The Old Republic only stood for as long as it did because the Jedi were taking care of enough problems to keep it from falling apart, by taking them out of the picture Palpatine ensured that any government that tried to replace him would eventually fail because they wouldn't have an army of mystic space-ronin to keep them out of a collapse spiral.
Basically, yes. The Republic post-Ruusan Reformation is so loose and weak so as to not offend local and corporate elites, and they only lasted so long because an army of Übermenschen psychic space knights served as their ambassadors, diplomats, peacekeepers, and generals. The Jedi mollycoddling the Republic stifled its maturity and growth; they didn't bother to learn from past mistakes or work to create a more effective government because the Jedi are just there to patch the dysfunctional one so that things keep on going.

The KOTOR/SWTOR era Republic is a mixed bag, since while there was corruption within it, to the point where someone like Revan would choose to wage war against it instead of just running for chancellor, it was still strong enough to make a difference. The Republic Army and Navy kept things safe for the most part, and the Jedi merely acted as the tip of the spear, akin to the Space Marines in 40K's Imperium of Man. They're powerful, but even without them, the Republic is capable of defending itself to a certain extent.

The Republic under the Pius Dea cult was a military powerhouse even without the Jedi, conquering millions of worlds and de-fanging alien powers, and during the Mandalorian Wars, when the Mandos were a powerful, galaxy-threatening civilization instead of a gaggle of has-beens with overpriced armor, the Republic forces were able to hold off the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders for a while despite suffering heavy losses, until Revan was able to amass his army of Jedi Knights and defeat the Mandalorians. And of course, we can't forget the special forces of the Republic Army which was at least strong enough to give the Sith during the SWTOR era the occasional black eye, being able to keep up somewhat with the Jedi despite their lack of psychic powers.

As for Palpatine ensuring that any government will fail without him, that's only for Disney-canon. In Legends, the Empire did have a succession system in place, but Palpatine's advisors were so weak that they failed and the Empire regressed into warlordism, and with Darth Vader dead, no one was strong enough to stabilize the mess. If Inquisitor Jerec succeeded at the Valley of the Jedi, he might've been strong enough, but Kyle Katarn killed him. It's telling that if Kyle does follow in Jerec's footsteps and takes in the power of the Valley as a Dark Jedi, he DOES become Emperor, and he's in a position to keep the Empire running smoothly.

Same thing goes for Thrawn; if he didn't rely on the Nohgri for protection and succeeded at defeating the NR with enough conventional battles, he could've claimed the title of Emperor and restored Palpatine's Empire. At least, until C'baoth turns Thrawn's soldiers against him with the Force. That, and Palpatine did have clone bodies on the side, so he was ready for the possibility of death. And even with his final death, that didn't end the Empire for good.

Galak Fyyar tried to seize the throne by assembling an army of Dark Jedi with Desann and going on a crusade to wipe out the Emperor's hated Jedi enemies; if Desann succeeded, his army of Dark Jedi could've been used to pressure the rest of the Empire to accept Galak as their new leader. Same thing with the Cult of Ragnos crisis; if Marka Ragnos was fully revived instead of just half-assing it by possessing some Dark Jedi, then he'd be strong enough to force the rest of the Empire to bow before him, and probably strong enough to crush the NR fleet in battle, given how powerful the Ancient Sith were at Battle Meditation and making suns go supernova. Even Naga Sadow had to wait for Ragnos to die of natural causes before he tried to stake a claim on the man's throne.

The Empire that Palpatine left behind after he died was at least stable enough due to its top-down command system, that it eventually grew back into full power in the Legacy Era, and even some Jedi saw the advantage with a more stable Imperial government, since some Jedi chose the Empire over the Galactic Alliance and even ruled the Empire for a time. When the Empire's former Jedi enemies wind up joining it because it's more stable than the alternative, that's saying something.

The only thing that I would've added would be the restoration of the Imperial Senate, so at least there'd be a voice for the commoners, acting as a counterweight to the Moffs, not to mention that the Senate can elect a new Emperor in the odd case that the current one croaks, instead of just having the Moffs wait for the strongest thug around to stake a claim on the throne. The last thing any civilization needs is to copy the flawed formula of Byzantium, where coups and palace intrigues led to one disaster after another, from the loss of Asia Minor to the Fourth Crusade.
 
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I started to watch the whole episode because I heard all the fuss about Anakin fighting again. I haven't watched the earlier episodes so I don't know why a single mom twi'lek whore is allowed to be a general and bring her kid along on military operations. Having a forest moon full of Ewoks makes a thousand times more sense.
I'd assume she became a general because the Rebellion was short-staffed on officers, as for her bringing her kid along, remember that this woman was sending teenagers into battle in her debut show. Sending kids to war is a Jedi/Rebel tradition in the Filoniverse. You're not the good guys until there's some teens or preteens in your ranks.
 
Is Adam Driver the only actor that walked out of the dumpster fire of the sequel trilogy intact? I feel like the other actors just crashed and burned after that.
Him and Oscar Isaac, but they better established than Boyega or Ridley before The Force Awakens.

Boyega probably could have came out of it better if he had kept his mouth shut.
 
Him and Oscar Isaac, but they better established than Boyega or Ridley before The Force Awakens.

Boyega probably could have came out of it better if he had kept his mouth shut.
That, & if he didn't fucked over Pacific Rim just afterwards to forcefully craft the "glory" Finn didn't get as a bad power-fantasy. He has an entire hatedom against him due to that.
 
Besides, try making fashwave music videos with scenes with rebels fighting.
Here's another one:

Also the rather topical maymay I posted yesterday but got lost in the rollback.
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Good old Tie Fighter.

The Sith Empire is a mix of the British, Galactic Empires and the Imperium. They got Inquisition, "Spheres" that are like the Imperium's various factions, and even a High Lords of Terra, I mean Dark Lords of Dromund Kaas, where the Dark Council Siths with the Sith Emperor as its head. Throw a bit of Sparta/Starship trooper into the mix as well, their citizens are all supposed to be soldiers, and they don't like the xenos. Than Valkorion/Vitiate/Tenebrae pulled a Mengsh/Emprah cosplay with his Zakuulstodes just to hammer the point home.

But then again I always found having more Sith than 2 good, be it Old Red Sith Empire era or New Sith Empire era. Though the red Sith stuff was very 80s old style stuff, with very few ranged weapons and dinosaur riders, so it was more like evil wizards from Conan in space.
 
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And humans and twi'leks having kids dates back to Filoni's Clone Wars series when a clone trooper went AWOL and started banging a local. The kids looked all manners of fucked, unlike Jacen
Were they actually supposed to be the Clone’s kids or his step-kids? The latter would make more sense because that episode is set within the first year of the Clone Wars, but knowing Filoni he’d probably just say that Twi’leks have a short adolescence (retconning god know how many EU works in the process).
Anyone else enjoying the cope from shills like Eckhartsladder? Seeing his videos basically licking up all this nonsense while making sure to state “How Damn Good was that!” Or “Best Disney Lightsaber fight!” As if that’s some form of positive.

So do these people legitimately think this stuff is good or do they just want to stay on Disneys good side? I think for someone like Eck it’s all of that plus he probably thinks if your anti-Disney wars your a bigot or something.
I find EckhartsLadder even more insufferable than outright ST fans because of his retarded enlightened centrism, “sure Disney has completely nuked the franchise with the dogshit ST, BUT DID YOU SEE THE LAST EPISODE OF MANDO!!!”.

Memba when he made a video about Disney SW comic artists outright tracing fan-content and out of proportion tabletop figurines, and he coped about the artists being “overworked” (while still giving the video a clickbait title so that Anti-Disney people watch it)?
Lucas himself has changed opinion or been greatly ambivalent about this. He originally suggested anyone could be a jedi with enough training, and the first movie suggests as much. It is not until RoTJ that Luke's force abilities become entangled with his lineage rather than his training and the EU solidified this with the force-sensitive concept.
I never got why people get on Lucas’s ass about him changing his mind on parts of the story. That’s literally just what happens when you worldbuild, and I find it interesting that the only times it gets complained about is in properties that RLM has a hate-boner for (Leia being Luke’s sister, or anything from the PT), you’ll never see these boomer fucks complain about the Vader twist not being originally intended.
 
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@Seafarer I can't reply to you for some reason, but I'm pretty sure the kids are the clone's stepchildren. However, they were confirmed to be half-human, if the mottled tan and blue skin on the daughter and stunted lekku on the son didn't give it away.
 
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Now who of you, bitches, is The Critical Drinker and/or Nerdrotic?
Gary's too tech illiterate to know how to post on a web forum and Drinker is too busy editing in the scene of Dinklage puking into his review of capeshit to post here. If anyone of the FNT crew posted here it'd be Kinnel. If any of the FNT people do post here and read this say "Zap to the extreme!" during your intro this week on FNT.
 
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