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Catch The Rainbow said:
Trump uses very interesting language to refer to the West Bank. He refers to it as Judea and Samaria which is a right wing/religious Israeli term for that area. The only other Americans I know who refer to the area by that term are right wing Orthodox Jews and they are mostly pro trump. It's either them or Zionist Christians but he's not targeting them in this. I think he recruited some Orthodox or right wing Israelis to write this up. Liberal Jews like the ones he's targeting don't like that term. It's also the first time he's called that area by that term which is probably a sign that he'll lean more to the right regarding Israel if he wins the election.

Or I'm just overanalyzing.
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Just as well, liberal Jews are fake Jews anyways.
 
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Betonhaus said:
I wonder what happens when it's thrown into their face what Biden has done? They may be comfortable not knowing and being kept in the dark, but if they are forced to sit and listen to evidence.
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It depends on how hard the DNC can bury any coverage of the actual impeachment; worse case scenario, they'll have a crisis where the Senate will refuse to do a trial or delay delay delay doing the trial part of the impeachment or try and bullshit a one-two day trial so they can rubber stamp an acquittal and then have the media go into overdrive about "how Joe Biden was declared innocent of all charges!" non-stop for the rest of the year as they prep the next steal to keep Biden in office.

The media has an actual financial and reputational interest in covering the impeachment and going full throat at Biden, since impeachment=ratings and the fact that turning on Biden during the impeachment is their last chance to fucking regain ANY credibility at this point.

But the biggest thing is that I fully expect the Democrats to try another mass murder attempt on the House Republicans to squash the impeachment or at least, cause massive delays via sending someone to try and kill a ton of House GOP folk en-mass ala the baseball game shooting or the railroad derailment scheme. Or for the DOJ to wholesale try and stop the GOP from doing an impeachment trial/to do their best to openly tamper with the trial via refusing to hand over witnesses and documents and evidence (perhaps under the bullshit excuse that "Hunter's under investigation/trial and it takes priority" bullshit.

But at this point, they have to do SOMETHING even if it's doomed in the Senate. Force Biden to live with having been impeached as a black mark on his record as President. And to force the Democrats to go on record as far as saying they will ignore outrigtht corruption to own the chuds.
 
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Betonhaus said:
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Every day, this president wakes up and thinks about his deceased son [Beau] and probably cries every day.
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I'd cry too if I had to lean on a raging crack addict to collect all my bribe money because the son I wanted to run the family business kicked the bucket.

That being said, Kamala would most likely pardon Hunter provided that Joe takes the elevator down to hell while he's in office.
 
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MirrorNoir said:
Or for the DOJ to wholesale try and stop the GOP from doing an impeachment trial/to do their best to openly tamper with the trial via refusing to hand over witnesses and documents and evidence (perhaps under the bullshit excuse that "Hunter's under investigation/trial and it takes priority" bullshit.
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This is absolutely one of the justifications for filing charges against Hunter again. Now if the GOP does manage to get something going about Biden's corruption, they've taken Hunter off the board as a piece and whoopsy doodle, they don't have a case now.
 
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It depends on how hard the DNC can bury any coverage of the actual impeachment;
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The laptop isn't real. To Laptop is real but nothing there. To Hunter Biden didn't really do anything wrong. We're now getting to, "So what if Biden influence peddled."

"there are a lot of folks in a lot of industries, not just in politics, where people have family members and relationships and they’re trying to parlay and get a little influence and benefit in that respect. That’s hardly unique."
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Screamer_2 said:
The laptop isn't real. To Laptop is real but nothing there. To Hunter Biden didn't really do anything wrong. We're now getting to, "So what if Biden influence peddled."
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Once you notice this it just becomes the cycle of life of "conspiracy theories"... I really wish we had an "It's all so tiresome" rating....
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"there are a lot of folks in a lot of industries, not just in politics, where people have family members and relationships and they’re trying to parlay and get a little influence and benefit in that respect. That’s hardly unique."
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"It's OK when we do it!"
 
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Screamer_2 said:
The laptop isn't real. To Laptop is real but nothing there. To Hunter Biden didn't really do anything wrong. We're now getting to, "So what if Biden influence peddled."

"there are a lot of folks in a lot of industries, not just in politics, where people have family members and relationships and they’re trying to parlay and get a little influence and benefit in that respect. That’s hardly unique."
Gaven Newsom
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There's a few versions of this, for both cultural and political. I can't write them out as nicely as The Narcissist's Prayer, but it's interesting to watch the stages of the argument as they lose ground. It's like clockwork, and they often retreat to previous stages of the pattern as they lose ground or run out of excuses as to why you should either stop noticing things right the fuck now or at least stop talking about it in public, damnit.

The Narcissist's Prayer, for those who don't know it by name, is:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

So. Scandal affecting a lefty tribe politician?

X didn't happen.
Ok X did happen, but it's being overblown.
Ok X isn't being overblown, but it's not that bad.
Ok X is as bad as you say, but everyone has done it so you can't complain now.
Ok X is actually a new level of shitty behavior, but it's already been done so what can you do?

Someone calling out lefty tribe behavior? (Grooming children for example.)

X isn't happening.
X isn't happening, but here's why it'd be a good thing if it did.
X is happening, and that's a good thing, and you're a bigot if you complain or talk about it.
X has always been happening, what are you getting upset about now?

My current favorite is the cultural one that's cropped up lately. The Zombies have been trotting this out on twitter like clockwork ever since that bald youtuber had a freakout about the latest Bethesda Goyslop game. Any mention of woke bullshit in games gets the following reaction:

X isn't a big deal, so you shouldn't complain.
X doesn't matter! So it's silly to complain about it.
Y is a thing so you have to accept X, too.
X has always been in gaming, so you can't complain.
X doesn't matter but if you try to remove it we'll stop you, cause it doesn't matter so much.

The answer in each stage, no matter what, is "stop complaining, accept and normalize our batshit insane subculture being inserted into your hobby."
 
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Breadbassket said:
Bet on the classic: if it's not entirely sure the allegations are true or not, the media will constantly say how fake they are then if they are proven to be true the media won't address them unless they have to and even then they will just say they aren't true.
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Even if something is 100% proven to be irrefutably true they fall back on "That's a right wing/far right talking point"
Enough of their flock is so completely fucked in the head that this is enough for them to instantly disengage it
 
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