Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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u/aidenjosiahhh seems to be having trouble "fucking" her wife.
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Hey guys. Is it possible for anyone to PM me a video of them wrapping their dick in coban wrap?? i want to fuck my wife so bad but i’m pre-erectile implanet and I’m having trouble figuring out how to get that to work. How many times should i wrap it? does it work well? Are you able to orgasm with it on? Please help!!
This issue seems to be going on a while after her glansplasty; which was back in June. She had another post asking about elators 2 months back.

Everytime coban tape gets mentioned I remember u/TheCatInGrey and her Q-tip, Coban tape and condom phallus scaffolding method.
Reminds me of a scene in Misfits where Rudy wraps his cock in a piece of cling film he found on a dog's food bowl to fuck a girl because he had no condom.
 
As someone who's become very close to someone with chronic illness, reading this thread is so much worse. Seeing all these sad, stupid people be enabled to destroy their perfectly healthy bodies by the people that are supposed to protect them. Just being able to live outside of the hospital, eat normal foods, and exist without constant pain and suffering is THE MOST PRECIOUS thing you can have. It can't be bought for any amount of money and this cult takes people who already have extreme mental distress, and takes that away from them. For every troon that gets exactly what they deserve with surgery and hormones there's a depressed kid groomed into it that just fucked up their life forever, no take-backs.

When this all comes to a head, all the assholes that pushed this will tell the same story. They were just trying to help out these troubled people in the best way they could, nobody could have foreseen this. Fuck you, I won't forget.
 
u/Electronic-Gur9522 is scared as she hasn't developed any sensation after 6 months.
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I had phallo almost 6 months ago, and what a milestone it is to reach today. It felt almost impossible during the first few weeks of recovery. Sensation has always been important to me and currently at 6 months post-op, I feel nothing. I spoke with my surgeon today about stage 2 and asked him about sensation, he said I should have some sensation at the base and that I had a good nerve hook up but I feel nothing. No pressure, touch, temperature, or texture. I only get stings of pain around the scar tissue (not the phallus itself), and that's very rare. He reassured me and said that it could take longer to develop since I had ALT, but I'm already scared.

How did you guys cope till you felt sensation?
And u/tank_again responds with a cope comment.
If you’re getting pain, you’re getting nerve regeneration. Nerves don’t have blood flow so they can be very slow to heal (ie wake up). Pain is a good sign.

Realize that >95% of life doesn’t involve sexual or tactile feeling in your penis. Your ability to pee standing up, wear comfortable clothes, not worth about packing, feel more comfortable in your own skin are going to be most of your experiences in day to day life. Celebrate the wins you do have. Keep strong and be patient for your future wins.
 
u/Electronic-Gur9522 is scared as she hasn't developed any sensation after 6 months.
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I had phallo almost 6 months ago, and what a milestone it is to reach today. It felt almost impossible during the first few weeks of recovery. Sensation has always been important to me and currently at 6 months post-op, I feel nothing. I spoke with my surgeon today about stage 2 and asked him about sensation, he said I should have some sensation at the base and that I had a good nerve hook up but I feel nothing. No pressure, touch, temperature, or texture. I only get stings of pain around the scar tissue (not the phallus itself), and that's very rare. He reassured me and said that it could take longer to develop since I had ALT, but I'm already scared.

How did you guys cope till you felt sensation?
And u/tank_again responds with a cope comment.
If you’re getting pain, you’re getting nerve regeneration. Nerves don’t have blood flow so they can be very slow to heal (ie wake up). Pain is a good sign.

Realize that >95% of life doesn’t involve sexual or tactile feeling in your penis. Your ability to pee standing up, wear comfortable clothes, not worth about packing, feel more comfortable in your own skin are going to be most of your experiences in day to day life. Celebrate the wins you do have. Keep strong and be patient for your future wins.
These are consensual and paid-for body horror mods. Spectacular! She paid to have a chunk of flesh degloved from her arm (horrific) and then rolled up like a sausage and then attached to her crotch, and she can't even feel the damn thing! Ohhhhh the euphoria! If I was a pooner I would say "Hey you know some doods get botched circumcisions and those folks can't feel their penis either, so don't feel too bad bro! Count your blessings. Be happy you can stand up and milk your penis like a real boy! Sending love your way xoxo :)"

I'm not new to this thread, I know this happens all the time but goddamn, I never grow less disturbed by the body horror that is ruining your own perfectly healthy body and becoming a permanent medical patient just to have an imitation sausage attached to my crotch which will NEVER pass, never feel like a real penis, never piss like a real penis. Lol what the fuck do they even want it for?

I have a question that I wish I could ask all trans people. What are the pros and cons of getting surgery? You can only mention that it alleviates gender dysphoria once.
 
Poor Outcome Tracking? (Trigger Warning) by u/heybazz [archive]
surgeon is honest for once, enraging r/phallo. they are also trying to think of a way to centralize info on negative surgery outcomes... hmmm... where could such a resource exist? :thinking:
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Hello! Does anyone know of a single source for tracking poor outcomes in trans surgeries? I ask after receiving a very disturbing email from the director of Buncke Clinic. I simply asked about their BMI requirements and he responded (without answering my actual question or bothering to find out that I actually do meet their BMI requirements) talking about the risk of death and total flap loss. After going back and forth with him about doing better about not throwing out such disturbing content in response to a casual client inquiry, he finally responded that they have indeed had more than one client experience total flap loss and one patient almost die at their clinic. Is anyone tracking this kind of information for the community? I would not have reached out to them if I'd known that.

the doctor telling me the risks of the surgery is DEHUMANIZING me
"But why would he want a potential client to think of death and total flap loss before I even have a consult or tell him my BMI? It is literally crazy. I have sent out probably 30 or 40 of these inquiries over the years (counting top surgery) and never received such a dehumanizing response."
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RainPups I’m very curious about this because I just had surgery with Chen & the Buncke Clinic recently and was explicitly told at my pre-op a few weeks ago that they have not had a total flap loss. This was information they provided on their own, it was not a response to any question. I’m also a higher BMI that is on the fence for several phallo surgeons, and they never were overly aggressive about my weight, though we did have a discussion about it. I wonder if it’s related to the director vs Watt and Safa? I only spoke with Chen, Watt, and Safa, perhaps they referred to themselves as a team with their statements but not the clinic as a whole?
Either way something clearly doesn’t add up there and shows we really do deserve some more solid tracking of this info.
heybazz Woah, interesting. I'm not sure what to make of what this director said. Maybe he is just talking out of his ass. But why would he want a potential client to think of death and total flap loss before I even have a consult or tell him my BMI? It is literally crazy. I have sent out probably 30 or 40 of these inquiries over the years (counting top surgery) and never received such a dehumanizing response.​
How disturbing. I certainly hope it was the director who was lying in this case. That would make sense based on the contradictions in his email, and an explicit statement that weight was not correlated with outcome in an AMA on reddit 5 years ago. If you have a way to contact Watt or Safa, I would be happy to send them the emails I received. This tool also "banned" me, saying it's not a good fit because I got upset with his inappropriate comments. Kind of a moot point because they won't accept Aetna (and if they really did almost have someone die, I wouldn't want to go there.)​
EDIT: I'm thinking the discrepancy is possibly because they have not had these complications in RFF but only ALT.​

Surgeon contradicts past lies, pooner knows better
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GETMONEYFUCKTHESYT3M Jesus, Im really sorry to hear this happened. Im not sure what he was attributing death to? To a higher BMI? That’s…yikes
heybazz Thanks. Yes, he was making the case that it was the high BMI. His first graphic email responding to my inquiry he said that the problem was the weight of abdominal fat causing a rupture. When I quoted their own AMA saying there was no correlation between poor outcome and BMI, he responded that the AMA was talking about RFF. So that doesn't make sense. Abdominal fat doesn't magically go away if you choose RFF.​

Unfortunately the dehumanization was pooner on pooner violence, and the OP was "banned" from the surgery practice.
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tranifestations Wow I hate to hear about this kind of communication from this team (or any team). Dr Chen has been one of the most accommodating phallo surgeons regarding bmi, and to hear that someone at the Buncke Clinic is attempting to deter patients this way is very concerning. It’s also concerning that these complications may be happening and we don’t know about it. Do you feel comfortable sharing the name of the person you spoke with? I’m very curious who’s talking to our community this way.
And to your question: I was just talking about this with someone today. We need more data from surgeons. Their complications, their outcomes, their techniques, their innovations. We deserve to have access to this information so we can make fully informed decisions about our bodies.
heybazz Yes, it was the director, Logan.​
Trying to communicate with him how disturbing his response was resulted in him "banning" me from the practice. Specifically, he said it's not a good fit. You can't make this shit up. There are ethical violations here.​
Yes, totally. I am contemplating how we might accomplish this.​
tranifestations Thanks for sharing. I’m so sorry to hear this. Logan is actually just the main go-to for stage 1 people. He does initial intake, scheduling and communication leading up to stage 1. He’s not the director of buncke (that’s Dr buncke himself) or their trans program (that’s dr bauback Safa) and I really hope he didn’t say that he was. We, as a community, have known him to continue to offer a mix of misinformation and helpfulness over the years. His incorrect information, and sometimes harsh approach, has harmed people before. This was beyond inappropriate. I’m really glad you shared this with us.​
And regarding info: some teams are very forthcoming with their data and some aren’t. The correlation seems to be that private practice surgeons share more than ones at universities. I wish we could get them all in a room together, but that hasn’t happened so far. And I believe the best way to compile this data is as a community. Create our own. We do this in so many ways by sharing what we know in these groups, but it would be amazing if it were all cohesive and in a spreadsheet. As a post phallo caregiver for many years I have seen a lot and have a good bit of anecdotal data just stored in my head that I share freely, but you’re so right- we need tangible access to this info.​
ETA: I see that his fb profile does, indeed, say he’s the director. Odd because the Buncke website lists Dr Safa as the director. Regardless of title- what he did was not okay.​
heybazz Thanks. I was gonna say that made sense that he's not actually the director, but I am sure it did say that on his email sig. Why is the director answering emails anyway? They should hire a trans guy to be client facing. It's weird that Universities wouldn't share that stuff. The medical system in the US needs a total overhaul. If you or anyone wants to talk about setting up some kind of resource, PM me. I've thought of a couple ways that might work.​
tranifestations Logan is trans 😭
heybazz Wow, that sucks!​

I wonder why this doesn't happen to cis people?
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heybazz I'm going to make a meme to try to explain to cis people why what happened here was wrong.
Things that never happen to cis people
"Hi, I'm seeking medical services--"
"Your weiner might fall off and you might die."

commenter reports that butcher Gottlieb at University of Chicago had a phallo victim die on the table. of course it was all the patient's fault, says the surgeon doing phallo pre-2014
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Gaebriel29 My surgeon did have someone die on the table and I have a friend that had total flap loss (Alt)- it does happen but I don’t know if a resource that is tracking flap losses or death aside from individual surgeons/surgical teams
Gaebriel29 My surgeon had someone die during surgery- the patient hid some medical information that would’ve disqualified him from surgery altogether. He died on the table. I was told this from my surgeon during the consult- probably to make sure I understood the full extent of the risks.
Gaebriel29 Some of this depends on which country you’re in. I had it done in 2014, I was 34, Gottlieb at the University of Chicago, wait list was none but took a year to get everything together to be able to do it, and yes it was 100% worth it

u/FiresideTwilight says she almost died from complications from metoidioplasty. of course, the solution is to pursue another meta surgery that only 1 surgeon offers, and phallo too. what could go wrong?
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FiresideTwilight I almost died from sepsis after meta. Also got wound separation leading to a poor outcome. Am not fat. They definitely aren't tracking it because no one even checked to see how the healing went.
Who does bifid to vy?
Got a botched bifid meta. Want vy and potentially phallo but at the least need the bifid corrected. I seem to remember only one surgeon does bifid to vy, who are they?
Botched meta: xy meta, phallo or wait?
Wondering what to do about a surgical revision. Last year I got a meta with urethral lengthening. XY wasn't an option so I had bifid. Unfortunately it got botched:
  • The catheter got blocked internally by blood clots, I got a blood and urine infection then sepsis which almost killed me
  • Stitches came loose causing two holes where the v-gina is supposed to be sewn up. One is between the balls, the other is behind them right before the an-l entrance.
  • One ball is so far in it's invisible. In general the balls are so tiny you can't tell they're there unless you look at them from below, the surgeon used the smallest size.
  • There was no mons resection done or anything and it looks like the shaft wasn't moved in any way. Overall things look like a large cl-toris.
  • Urethral lengthening did work, I can pee. However the urethral shaft is narrow so the pee sounds like a girl's.
Overall I still feel I can't go naked in front of others and my dysphoria got real bad as soon as I realized the holes weren't going to seal up. Also with the holes in the "v-gina" I'm worried about an infection.
I'm now in the US and need a revision, but am wondering about the following points:
  • Who can convert a botched bifid to xy?
  • Should I try for a mons resection and xy meta, or go for phallo? I'm really embarrassed my p-nis is so small it doesn't even bulge in swimwear.
  • In how many years will surgical improvements come out? I could do a meta revision now then wait for a vastly improved phallo if that phallo is only 5-10 years away
 
Urethral lengthening did work, I can pee. However the urethral shaft is narrow so the pee sounds like a girl's.
>nearly fucking dies to be able to pee out of her clitoris
>her main concern is that her pee sounds like a girl's

Priorities. Also who tf cares what your piss sounds like? No one is listening to see if the sound of your piss hitting the toilet passes for male or female????? You should care more about the fact you nearly fucking lost your life in the pursuit of trying to "piss like a boy" but nah she's still on the hunt for more surgeries.

Could this be the comic she is using as a reference to how boys pee?
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GETMONEYFUCKTHESYT3M Jesus, Im really sorry to hear this happened. Im not sure what he was attributing death to? To a higher BMI? That’s…yikes
What, this surgeon says fat people are more likely to die during surgery or because of complications due to their weight? Fatphobic surgeon, yikessssss duderinos... avoid at all costs
 
u/Separate_Ad_7977
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Hey everyone,

Thought I would share some photos. I’m 13 weeks post op my stage 1 (phallus creation, burial & nerve hookup, scrotoplasty, partial UL, and vaginectomy) with Dr Laungani at GRS Montreal.

First few photos are what everything usually like (the hole below my penis is the urethra, it gets connected to my actual urethra in stage 2, the hole in the middle of my scrotum is also my urethra where I currently pee from). Last two pictures are what it looks like if I mess around with some body-safe paint and add a bit of colour haha!

During stage 2 they’ll do UL hookup & make my scrotum into a singular sack.

Happy to answer and questions as I know there isn’t a ton of info out there about Laungani :).
 
Unfortunately the dehumanization was pooner on pooner violence, and the OP was "banned" from the surgery practice.
This is the pooner med, Logan Berrian. She’s an RN. Her background is in psych med case management. At one point she was true believer:

“My dream is to see many more trans doctors and nurses providing trans healthcare.”

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The eyes give it away as always but she’s able to grow an impressive enough beard that all the young wannabes are likely mad jealous. In addition to being an RN, Berrian also appears physically fit so she’s likely tired of the same beer gutted, morbidly obese types whining about BMI keeping them from getting a rot dog (that will be covered by their gunt regardless).

An excerpt from her AMA linked above on the viability of uterus transplants:
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u/FiresideTwilight says she almost died from complications from metoidioplasty. of course, the solution is to pursue another meta surgery that only 1 surgeon offers, and phallo too. what could go wrong?

This is one of the most amazing things I have read here. The denial is borderline schizo.

Stitches came loose causing two holes where the v-gina is supposed to be sewn up

Overall things look like a large cl-toris.


WTF is this shit????

Are they Jews not allowed to say the name of G-d?

Is it so triggering to use those scary-ass girlie words clitoris and vagina that they will hyperventilate, become suicidal or what?

Wait, she also refuses to spell out penis:

I'm really embarrassed my p-nis is so small it doesn't even bulge in swimwear.

Yes, that's masc to be afraid of words... unless this is a new religion and its Jehovah they are scared of.

Urethral lengthening did work, I can pee. However the urethral shaft is narrow so the pee sounds like a girl's.

Every morning, I pee after my wife. so i asked her. She says our pee sounds alike to her. I think it sounds alike too.

These ppl are insane.

Notice how they obsess over these particular strange things, yet don't even bother to pass.
I bet this one looks like every pooner in the pooner thread, yet worries over how her pee sounds.
 
>nearly fucking dies to be able to pee out of her clitoris
>her main concern is that her pee sounds like a girl's

Priorities. Also who tf cares what your piss sounds like? No one is listening to see if the sound of your piss hitting the toilet passes for male or female?????
I understand you're the authority on piss, being the Piss Bear and all, but clearly the pooner has legitimate concerns a man may say this to her:

 
By the way...considering how poorly done many of these quick mastectomies are for pooners, do many of them also suffer permanent damage to their underlying pectoral musculature? I heard that numbness/permanent pain in the thoracic area is often a frequent side-effect from the nerve damage that can be caused from these surgeries, but what about muscle damage?
 
I don't really see the rationale of doing research on "lab grown vaginas and urethras" when doing researches in lab grown hearts and kidneys would benefit more people, attract more funding and make more money.
Lab grown bladder and urethra probably would be very valuable. Bladder cancer and congenital abnormalities etc mean there’s a need for them. Vaginas i guess too from women who have had cancer or genetic issues.
Once we’ve got one solid organ and a few complex shapes and membranes down pat it should be reasonably easy to do others. It would be amazing to grow parts from our own cells, or some kind of non-immunologically reactive cell lines. I know a couple of people who work sort of in this, not so much the ‘making a bit for transplant’ stuff but the earlier stages (how does embryonic mush turn into a heart or kidney.)
Another twenty years or so I reckon. Unless we all nuke ourselves or breed into the Idiocracy timeline
 
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