Disaster In the War Between Harassment and Censorship, No One Wins - Abuses on Kiwi Farms have sparked debate about harassment, safety, and free speech, with activists on both sides caught in an ethical minefield.

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By: Katherine Alejandra Cross
SEP 22, 2023 9:00 AM

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I DON’T LIKE to rank ethical issues in a hierarchy, but one problem sits with a weaver’s serenity at the center of a whole web of others: How do we ethically address networked harassment? Two recent articles about the ongoing battle to keep the stalking and harassment nexus of Kiwi Farms offline—one a Washington Post report detailing the saga, the other an unsigned statement from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)—perfectly illustrate the grinding gears of our age’s thorniest tech ethics issue.

Kiwi Farms was subject to a broadly successful series of campaigns led by erstwhile targets of the site, like the streamer Clara Sorrenti and technologist Liz Fong-Jones. The activists—most of whom are trans women, a group the site has viciously harassed for years—pressured Tier 1 internet service providers (ISPs) like Cloudflare (sometimes known as the internet’s backbone) and got them to cut off Kiwi Farms, making it harder for the site to be accessed globally. The battle “raises serious doubts about society’s ability to block any site from the global web—even one that explicitly incites violence,” writes Washington Post reporter Nitasha Tiku.

Meanwhile, the EFF, though condemning the site’s activities, criticized the campaign against it because the implications for speech, they say, are chilling. “We do not need more corporate speech police, however well-meaning,” they write.

There are good reasons to be cautious about pressuring ISPs, but there are nuances to networked online harassment that ensure easy answers will elude us. In my taxonomy of online harassment, Kiwi Farms is an archetypal networked abuse campaign, with all three orders of harassment bearing down on a person. What makes it different from, say, Reddit and Twitter is the disproportionate amount of first-order harassment—abuse that intrudes physically on a target—that the site generates. Though especially vicious, it’s hardly unique in what it does. Exceptionally concentrated, perhaps, but not special. As with the 4chan message boards, GamerGate websites, Stormfront, 8chan, and 8kun, there is a playbook at work here.

This means that, regardless of Kiwi Farms’ ultimate fate, the problem of such networked harassment will not go away. It’s a classic rights conflict, one that cannot be resolved either by unstinting adherence to abstract principles or by breezy exceptionalism. In every case, if the most devoted and prejudicial abusers can network their abuse, they leave democracy’s defenders with only the most unpalatable of choices. Let’s sail between Scylla and Charybdis for a while.

THE CHOICE KIWI Farms leaves us with is deeply unpalatable. Do we teach a corporation to indulge in censorship more overtly, eroding an already tenuous abstract principle that guards the open internet? Or do we rely on the state to protect us from online harassment, compelling them to encroach on speech with restrictions on physical freedom? Each path is a road to hell. One is lined with corporate PR speak, the other with police truncheons.

EFF legal director Corynne McSherry pointed to the advantages of using a state institution to deal with these sorts of issues: documentation, accountability, and clear, common standards. She added that allies can help by “demanding that law enforcement do their jobs, which is not happening, and that Congress enact real and enforceable data privacy protections that would make doxxing harder,” and reminded me that the EFF’s focus here is global; many debates on this issue tend to be quite parochial, focused tightly on the US with occasional, glancing references to the EU.

It’s true that pressuring ISPs carries risks and that breaking up the network does not eliminate the problem. In these times of the far right’s creeping attacks on free expression, who’s to say this won’t be their next tactic? It’s also true that civil society groups in middle income and developing countries, meanwhile, already struggle with authoritarian governments using ISPs to censor them and disperse political opposition.

But I’ve always been leery of the argument that we forestall such evil by refusing to exercise moral judgement and retreating behind abstract principles which the far right has already made clear they will not abide by. Meanwhile, beleaguered civil society activists are invoked in these discussions by cyber libertarians, as they should be, yet their struggles make something else clear. Arguing that organizations like Cloudflare are illegitimate targets for grassroots activism feels arbitrary and mostly disconnected from the ongoing battles in the rest of the world. Authoritarian censors were doing their fell work long before Kiwi Farms’ victims began to fight back.

THE EFF ISN’T wrong to suggest that someone in a position of power should be responsible, some government agency or collective that can respond to the depredations of the likes of Kiwi Farms so that ordinary people don’t have to make it a part-time job all on their own, with no support. The problem is that when prominent targets of harassment try to use existing state mechanisms to deal with networks of abuse, they run up against two critical problems. First, the law is often highly inadequate, and can at times threaten, in the EFF’s words, to also be a chainsaw when only a scalpel will do.

For their part, End Kiwi Farms’ Liz Fong-Jones and Katherine Lorelei were bemused by the idea that they fanned the flames of censorship: “It’s contradictory to hear organizations like the EFF call for the government to intervene, and also to call government intervention ‘censorship’ in the same breath.” The two women mentioned the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act and the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act, also known as SESTA/FOSTA—laws that the EFF strenuously opposed—as a clear example of the alternative to End Kiwi Farms’ activism. “If you want to move [acceptable use policy] enforcement to the realm of government oversight, it’s more than likely going to result in a much more heavy-handed approach than is necessary,” they said.

In an ideal world, the accountability of state-based mechanisms would be preferable to the more arbitrary and opaque dictates of the corporate world, but how could anyone mistake our world for an ideal one? How can we trust the very criminal justice system McSherry criticizes, rightly, for pursuing, facilitating, and failing to stop the increasingly authoritarian goals of the far right: banning books, criminalizing reproductive choice and bodily autonomy, and so on?

Second, harassment of this nature is rarely the exclusive product of a handful of identifiable individuals committing illegal acts. It is the product of a network.

One of the most prominent victims of the GamerGate harassment campaign took out a restraining order against their ex-partner, whose false accusations lent fire to the movement. The restraining order did nothing to meaningfully resolve the abuse, yet even if it had worked, it wouldn’t have stopped the GamerGate campaign. The campaign was built on multiple tiers of harassment across several forums that were radicalizing angry young people—mostly men—into hating their targets, obsessively stalking their online presences, and sharing rationales for abuse with one another.

While the lieutenants of GamerGate played an important role in calling targets and amplifying the less-followed members of the movement, they also needed those crowdsourced nobodies in order to make their target really feel the pain. You can’t take out a restraining order on a crowd, nor arrest them. Awful as their speech is, it is constitutional. But the ferment of that speech is what creates the basis for more overt forms of abuse, rationalizing and making it seem justified to dox and swat a target, leave a dead animal on their doorstep, stalk them and send the pictures to their parents, leave threatening messages at their door, and so on.

THUS, BREAKING UP their network is the chief strategic goal. It is the least intrusive option that remains effective. It’s why people like Fong-Jones and Lorelei chose the targets they did. If you add speedbumps—friction—to those seeking to access a site like Kiwi Farms, you make it much harder to source the crowd. You make it harder to draw enough people in the vile hope that one among their number will be deranged enough to go the extra mile in attacking the target in more direct ways. Such networks radicalize their members, ratcheting up their emotions and furnishing them with justifications for their abuse and more besides.

Breaking up the network does not eliminate the problem, but it does ameliorate it. The harder you make it to crowdsource, the likelier it is that a particular harassment campaign will fizzle out. Kiwi Farms remains able to do harm, but it would be a mistake to suggest that its endurance on the internet means its victims have failed to hobble them. They’re weaker than they once were, there are fewer foot soldiers to recruit from, it’s harder for the fly-by-night harassers to access the site conveniently. When you winnow such extremists down to their most devoted adherents, they remain a threat, but they lack the manpower to effect harm the way they once did.

If citizenship and politics mean anything, they must include the kind of agentic organizing exercised by Kiwi Farms’ victims—to ensure that they could be more than passive victims. This is, after all, what the political theorist Hannah Arendt meant by the word “action.” That simple word, for her, meant exercising the very capacity to do something new, to change the rules, upend the board, and be unpredictable. It is, she argues, at the heart of what makes us who we are as a species—and the essence of politics worthy of the name.

Allowing Kiwi Farms to flourish would not have protected anyone anywhere in the world from the malice of authoritarians who seek to abuse power at every turn. They might have used the banning of Kiwi Farms or the Daily Stormer as a fig leaf of “precedent,” but keeping these sites online would not have stopped the censors. What would Kiwi Farms’ victims have been sacrificed for? Shall the shameless do as they please, and the decent suffer what they must?

What this experience reveals, and what is generalizable to future dilemmas of this sort, is that breaking up a harassment network remains the least intrusive option on the table. Perhaps pressuring the deep stack in this way is not optimal. The EFF is right to raise serious doubts, doubts I share. But then this key insight about the network effects of harassment campaigns means that the solution, however partial or provisional, lies in finding other ways of disrupting the networks of extremist abusers. If anyone should be left holding the short straw of pluralism, it should be them.

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There's something amazing about someone whining about "networked harassment" when they provably engaged in just that sort of shit. In fact, most of the terrible shit Fong-Jones is doing now started because of coked-out shitheads like Katherine Cross harassing innocent people online until they could get their political opponents demonetized and shut down.

Don't forget the queen of double standards, Taylor Lorenz who would dox and harass and then literally cry about it done to her. I hate to use the term, but when it comes to doing wrong 'both sides' do protect their own. Trying to be objective when it comes to this shit is nearly impossible to fully do, but these freaks are the least saints of them all
 
There's something amazing about someone whining about "networked harassment" when they provably engaged in just that sort of shit. In fact, most of the terrible shit Fong-Jones is doing now started because of coked-out shitheads like Katherine Cross harassing innocent people online until they could get their political opponents demonetized and shut down. Thankfully, despite the ongoing purging, certain assholes made sure that the documented evidence of Cross and her cohort harassing people and then claiming to be a victim can be easily found to this day.

And that's the ugly truth - the real reason shitheads like Cross do this shit, even though it will ultimately fuck everyone, including Cross, if the tactic is successful. They know they can't win in any arena they can't completely dominate before a discussion even begins. They can't win in the public space, they can't win in the halls of discussion or debate, and, prior to Twitter literally capitulating to them utterly in 2015, they couldn't even win on social media unless the scales were weighed.

Cross dreams of an existence where the only opinion allowed to be said is the approved one, not giving a single solitary fuck that eventually, Cross too will be on the business end of the banhammer when that methamphetamine-addict looking headass outlives their eventual uselessness. It's fine to fuck up everything online, for every one, in a way that will utterly screw every single marginalized group Cross claims to care about, because it lets them bury the fucking ugly truth for a few more weeks.

But that won't stay buried forever, and even should the Farms cease existing, assholes like me will still exist to remind everyone who and what cross is - a fucking predator.
Ain't it just quackin' crazy how everyone who declares Jihad upon the Farms is an unhinged, hypocritical sociopath with skeletons they want to keep in the closet? And yet, we are the bad guys.
 
Don't forget the queen of double standards, Taylor Lorenz who would dox and harass and then literally cry about it done to her. I hate to use the term, but when it comes to doing wrong 'both sides' do protect their own. Trying to be objective when it comes to this shit is nearly impossible to fully do, but these freaks are the least saints of them all
The louder the virtue signal, the darker the truth behind it.

It's always the ones screeching about how they need to outright destroy something to keep people safe that have a history of sexual improriety or child molestation or something equally fucked-up in their back catalogue that's the real reason they try to bury shit.
 
Seethe and dilate, troon. Its your fault in the first place to why the farms exploded in popularity.

Just remember, the elites see you as a condom to be discarded after you successful install total censorship. Once that's done, you'll be discarded hard.

Actually the opposite is true in the worst possible way

Tranny eunuchs are the perfect Eichmann type middle management types for fascist regimes since


1. They are inherently evil in the soullessness department with regards to being evil enough to carry alout the evil agenda of their masters

2. Are totally dependent on their evil masters for their power and positions in society since they'd be properly treated as outcasts, pariahs, if not straight up murdered for their evil ways without the elite protection

3. Can't breed, so no fear of them trying to get uppity and starting their own dynasty to usurp the elites.

There is a reason WHY tranny eunuchs were used as the middle management Eichmann types in empires of the past.
 
Ah yes.. Yet another unhinged rant about how we must institute speech and freedom controls, breaking the internet to do it.. All in the name of protecting people's feelings and keeping people from wrong thinking out loud.

And OC it's another troon in MSM writing this. :story:
Remember <0.5% of the population even with self id but literally everywhere in media and press.


THE CHOICE KIWI Farms leaves us with is deeply unpalatable. Do we teach a corporation to indulge in censorship more overtly, eroding an already tenuous abstract principle that guards the open internet? Or do we rely on the state to protect us from online harassment, compelling them to encroach on speech with restrictions on physical freedom? Each path is a road to hell. One is lined with corporate PR speak, the other with police truncheons.

What a ridiculous false equivalence. Even at the very WORST that they accuse the farms and others of in their nightmares/fantasies, it comes nowhere NEAR the danger of a weaponized, deputized private morality/speech police. Full fucking stop. One leads to someone having to log fucking off to end the "abuse", the other means the END of online speech as well as the internet as we know it! (Do they really think once forced to take sides, some aren't going to side against their interests, companies and speech?)

It’s true that pressuring ISPs carries risks and that breaking up the network does not eliminate the problem. In these times of the far right’s creeping attacks on free expression, who’s to say this won’t be their next tactic?

Seriously?! They seriously added this line to an article like this? lol


One of the most prominent victims of the GamerGate harassment campaign took out a restraining order against their ex-partner, whose false accusations lent fire to the movement. The restraining order did nothing to meaningfully resolve the abuse, yet even if it had worked, it wouldn’t have stopped the GamerGate campaign. The campaign was built on multiple tiers of harassment across several forums that were radicalizing angry young people—mostly men—into hating their targets, obsessively stalking their online presences, and sharing rationales for abuse with one another.

While the lieutenants of GamerGate played an important role in calling targets and amplifying the less-followed members of the movement, they also needed those crowdsourced nobodies in order to make their target really feel the pain. You can’t take out a restraining order on a crowd, nor arrest them. Awful as their speech is, it is constitutional. But the ferment of that speech is what creates the basis for more overt forms of abuse, rationalizing and making it seem justified to dox and swat a target, leave a dead animal on their doorstep, stalk them and send the pictures to their parents, leave threatening messages at their door, and so on.

THUS, BREAKING UP their network is the chief strategic goal. It is the least intrusive option that remains effective. It’s why people like Fong-Jones and Lorelei chose the targets they did. If you add speedbumps—friction—to those seeking to access a site like Kiwi Farms, you make it much harder to source the crowd. You make it harder to draw enough people in the vile hope that one among their number will be deranged enough to go the extra mile in attacking the target in more direct ways. Such networks radicalize their members, ratcheting up their emotions and furnishing them with justifications for their abuse and more besides.

Holy crap.. Here's where he goes mask off full authoritarian/totalitarian fucks! Using GG as their example no less. They are literally talking about complete internet censorship with the example. The devil is in what is implicit in their argument. That we cut off anyone that allows MSM/progressive activist unapproved discussion. And thus force everyone to proactively censor and ban wrong think of any kind. Because, as we've seen, "harassment" is commentary or anything else progs don't like. Even disagreement with woke culture could count.

Allowing Kiwi Farms to flourish would not have protected anyone anywhere in the world from the malice of authoritarians who seek to abuse power at every turn. They might have used the banning of Kiwi Farms or the Daily Stormer as a fig leaf of “precedent,” but keeping these sites online would not have stopped the censors. What would Kiwi Farms’ victims have been sacrificed for? Shall the shameless do as they please, and the decent suffer what they must?

Love how he makes this pronouncement based on absolutely nothing at all. I mean even the argument thus far doesn't relate to this claim in any way. Nonsensical

I love how they define and use terms like "action" because the "action" they speak of is exactly what they are accusing other of. What a difference a "correct" opinion makes.
 
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Ok sure I'm kinda bored and having a few beers and I don't work tomorrow, so let's get to (selectively at first) pointing out a few things about this piece from another Wired troon.
I DON’T LIKE to rank ethical issues in a hierarchy, but one problem sits with a weaver’s serenity at the center of a whole web of others: How do we ethically address networked harassment?
Except you sorta do later on without saying as such later on in your opinion piece when you call out the far-right as being perpetrators of this sort of thing, when what you're really saying is just that you consider all the right wing anathema to your views, but are adding "far" to it to drum up sympathy from your fawning crowd of NPC dipshits. As far as "networked harassment" goes, using this site as an example is fairly brainless when the examples bandied about in the media have been debunked over and over. You wouldn't be writing this sort of thing if you didn't fit an archetype of a lazy troon journo anyways, so whatever.
most of whom are trans women, a group the site has viciously harassed for years
Laughing at the antics of people who overshare stupid shit they do online or in real life isn't harassment, never was, and never should be.
pressured Tier 1 internet service providers (ISPs) like Cloudflare (sometimes known as the internet’s backbone)
Kiwifarms was never hosted on cloudflare, all they did was provide (fairly poor) DDoS protection, they are far from the backbone of the internet you mong. Now if you look at a company like hurricane electric, who dropped us after another "girl-talk" by Thwompface Fong Jones, then you would be getting closer to something like a vertebrae in the internet backbone. Who hired you to write for a tech magazine again? Oh right, the programmer socks "lesbian" in HR. Nevermind.
Meanwhile, the EFF, though condemning the site’s activities, criticized the campaign against it because the implications for speech, they say, are chilling. “We do not need more corporate speech police, however well-meaning,” they write.
And they are correct. Neither do we need the state to clamp down on speech, which is frankly more concerning, and you raise as an option because trannies are too fragile to deal with people pointing out the obvious fact they aren't the sex opposite of what they were born as and are.
Which I won't be reading because I'm 100% sure it's the same self serving garble I've read many times in this ongoing ridiculous corner of the manufactured culture wars. Ok, it might serve other troons, but it won't bring them any closer to actually winning anything in the war since they'll never be accepted except by people already on their side ideologically or those who have been browbeaten by a left wing cancel mob.
This means that, regardless of Kiwi Farms’ ultimate fate, the problem of such networked harassment will not go away.
Oh what's that? You have preferential conditional blindness to what your own side does on reddit and twitter before Musk bought it and you screeched because some of your work to censor anything you didn't like and destroy the lives of people for speaking the truth about you was halved? Look in a mirror, the cry me 3 fucking Nile rivers. Then hang yourself.
THE CHOICE KIWI Farms leaves us with is deeply unpalatable. Do we teach a corporation to indulge in censorship more overtly, eroding an already tenuous abstract principle that guards the open internet? Or do we rely on the state to protect us from online harassment, compelling them to encroach on speech with restrictions on physical freedom? Each path is a road to hell. One is lined with corporate PR speak, the other with police truncheons.
So how about neither, you pathetic overzealous would be censor? People like you are literally why the 1st amendment exists in this country. Use razor wire when you do a flip so at least the people filming on their phones will get a good show.
It’s true that pressuring ISPs carries risks and that breaking up the network does not eliminate the problem. In these times of the far right’s creeping attacks on free expression, who’s to say this won’t be their next tactic?
There's that mirror thing again.
Authoritarian censors were doing their fell work long before Kiwi Farms’ victims began to fight back.
And you might look into exactly which regimes were more prone to this in the modern era, and what their politics were before you do a flip.
Second, harassment of this nature is rarely the exclusive product of a handful of identifiable individuals committing illegal acts. It is the product of a network.
I actually agree. Both sides have a network of online people committed to various extents around their political beliefs. It just so happens that if you really take a long hard look, the left has more of them and more places to air hate in the open without consequences, the reasons why I won't get into here.

The farms is no nexus of hate (unless from what I've seen, against niggers), and with purpose does hardly anything more than document what people put out themselves with a little bit of internet sleuthing tossed in. I'm not against doxing in principle, but when people do it here, bad actors can use that to actually harass the people we document. It's a grey area, imo, because although the blame is on them if they cowtip, it can still be traced to us even if we did nothing but toss out publicly available info. That's legal, but it just gives ammo to partisans and NPC's like the idiot author of this opinion piece.

E: Avoiding amusing wordfilter
 
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I feel the need to use my old archive of Autism Holy War knowledge to bring up some fun facts about the arguments Cross makes here:

Dumbfuck Troon said:
One of the most prominent victims of the GamerGate harassment campaign took out a restraining order against their ex-partner, whose false accusations lent fire to the movement. The restraining order did nothing to meaningfully resolve the abuse, yet even if it had worked, it wouldn’t have stopped the GamerGate campaign. The campaign was built on multiple tiers of harassment across several forums that were radicalizing angry young people—mostly men—into hating their targets, obsessively stalking their online presences, and sharing rationales for abuse with one another.

.....Zoe Quinn vacated that restraining order when it became clear she fucking perjured herself.

For those uninitiated, the initial Five Guys controversy that presaged Gamergate happened because Quinn's ex posted the fucking litany of abuse Quinn subjected him to - a fucking barrage of abuse he posted the fucking reciepts for and made absolutely clear she was fucking her employers, several journalists, and the people pushing her game through Indiecade at the time.

Quinn used her restraining order of her boyfriend as a de facto gag order, getting a ludicrously sympathetic judge to effectively stop him from talking about it. Her boyfriend appealed, and that's when the lies Quinn told under oath came to light, almost a year later. That's when she vacated the restraining order.

GG actually began a bit later - about 2 months after the Five Guys controversy - when the gaming press, in response to the allegations against Quinn (which again, had evidence) declared they had no intention to cover it, as there was nothing to see there - only for the fucking emails to leak (Game Journo Pros) and revealed that not only was there something there, but dozens of journalists were actively trying to bury it. This led to the story blowing up via the Streisand Effect, and subsequently 14 allegedly-competing publications ran the same article, linking the same sources, decrying the gamer identity as over and functionally declaring war on their own audiences.

That is the point GG actually started.

Dumbfuck Troon said:
While the lieutenants of GamerGate played an important role in calling targets and amplifying the less-followed members of the movement, they also needed those crowdsourced nobodies in order to make their target really feel the pain. You can’t take out a restraining order on a crowd, nor arrest them. Awful as their speech is, it is constitutional. But the ferment of that speech is what creates the basis for more overt forms of abuse, rationalizing and making it seem justified to dox and swat a target, leave a dead animal on their doorstep, stalk them and send the pictures to their parents, leave threatening messages at their door, and so on.

This motherfucker was involved with fucking insane attempts to prevent people from talking about what actually happened. The hope that Cross had - a hope shared by clowns like Jake Alley, SF the Wolf, Sick Nick Nyberg, Izzy "I'm Going to Say the N-Word" Galvez, Ryulong, and about forty other vintage lolcows who mostly still have productive threads on this site to this day - was that by isolating and destroying perceived leaders of their opposition, they could crush the movement itself.

This didn't fucking work.

Memes aside, for the most part, GG was leaderless, which left CON flailing around, trying to either inflate blatantly co-opted "leaders" into a position where they could offline the movement, or aggressively going after people who looked enough like leaders for their liking. In the case of the former, we saw shit like GGRevolt, where they tried to set up a third column movement within GG, only for it to become utterly infested by the speds too autistic for other GGers (see also: Homer and friends) and then promptly abandon the attempt when the inmates wound up firmly in charge of the asylum; in the case of the latter, they either succeeded at making their opponents look more sympathetic or going after someone no one took seriously in the first place. Throw in the fact that they were constantly getting trolled by third parties, and you have their mission statement failing outright before it even began.

But that didn't stop them from trying, so let's stop and read between the lines here a moment.

Cross was involved with a nearly two-year long campaign of active measures with one goal: Stop any and all criticism of themselves, something that extended to covering the indiscretions of Sarah Nyberg's pedophilia, Multiple CON members' histories of sexual assault, working with a convicted rapist, and having at least one major staffer who was actively involved with sexually harassing people while working for them. To this end, they broke laws, violated the TOS of multiple websites, and did things infinitely more heinous than mere online harassment, under the defense that those were necessary to stop "harassment."

They destroyed charity fundraisers, drove political wedges down the middle of websites that had heretofore been apolitical, actively covered up and tried to whitewash the actions of a self-admitted pedophile, had over a dozen members of their inner circle get exposed as sex pests, and all for one, singular reason: so you couldn't criticize them.
 
These articles piss me off so much, because you know they'd be giving the farms endless positive coverage if the only cows we laughed at were ones they approve of targeting. If KF only covered people like Sargon, the Quartering, Marjorie Taylor-Green, the Ralphahog, and Fuentes, there would be near universal praise of the site. Headlines would ring with acclaim about how hard KF owned the bad guys.
They are willing to stake the fundamentals of the Internet on taking down this site, just because it is willing to document their blemishes. I'm going to laugh when they are on the other end of the gun, be it from somebody further left or on the right, and their shit is getting blackholed by ISPs via the precedent they've decided to set right in this instant.
 
Adding to what Jaimas said, the article author "Katherine Cross" was one of the bigger brains behind Anti-GG. He was in the CON chat trying to marshal the idiot children within toward achieving tangible goals. He had ties to Anita Sarkeesian and Silverstring Media as well. He had been writing in social justice gaming circles since the late 2000s, he was a contributor to a site called borderhouseblog.com which was like the ground zero for woke game commentary, way back when people like that were consigned to a tiny irrelevant corner of the game discussion space.

Here's an article he wrote in 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110215210618/http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=4271
 
Actually the opposite is true in the worst possible way

Tranny eunuchs are the perfect Eichmann type middle management types for fascist regimes since


1. They are inherently evil in the soullessness department with regards to being evil enough to carry alout the evil agenda of their masters

2. Are totally dependent on their evil masters for their power and positions in society since they'd be properly treated as outcasts, pariahs, if not straight up murdered for their evil ways without the elite protection

3. Can't breed, so no fear of them trying to get uppity and starting their own dynasty to usurp the elites.

There is a reason WHY tranny eunuchs were used as the middle management Eichmann types in empires of the past.
1 only applies if you believe the hollywood version of fascists where they boil puppies for kicks: https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm (I know I know, propaganda, but then what isn't these days). and history is a fucking circle.
2 doesn't apply since the biggest threat is the elite going after them. remember which books got burned.
3 has a high chance of creating more troon elliot rogers.

much easier to install a regular guy as blockwart instead of a literal mental case. less antagonistic and much easier to replace too.

and it's always a good idea to keep in mind that no regime starts out as the 110% version. troon commissars would only be effective if there are lot other issues forcing the regime to do it.
 
Kiwis are the most honest, professional journalists in existence. We never make accusations without ample evidence and receipts.
Gossip magazine National Enquirer lost two major lawsuits in the 70's, one to Liberace and one to Carol Burnett. In an interview piece, a National Enquirer reporter had used language strongly implying Liberace was a flaming faggot and Liberace went after them for it gay porn hard and won, flouncing and mincing all the way to the bank. Carol Burnett had a kid with drug problems and went after them and won, as well. In both instances, the stories were true--Liberace (as we know) was indeed a flaming faggot and Carol Burnett's daughter really was an addict, but the respective reporters didn't have a lock on the facts. For years afterward, National Enquirer imposed the most stringent reporting standards in the industry on its writers. Slow and sloppy didn't cut it. As a National Enquirer reporter, you had to be good. Your shit had to be wired tight. The story had to be true. It had to be nailed the fuck down. It was a finishing school for a lot of investigative journalists.

I'm not saying Kiwis are hard-hitting journalists, exactly. Not our job. I am saying the information presented in the OP's on any given lol- or horrorcow is almost certainly true. Liz Fong-Jones, for example, really is a depraved piece of shit who enjoys victimizing emotionally damaged and mentally ill partners when engaging in bizarre BDSM scenarios, a predatory monster who euphemistically refers to serial sexual assault as consent accidents. Or take Miguel Angel Casiano, Jr. aka Katherine Alejandra Cross, the writer of this hit piece. Young Miguel really is a second-rate intellect and so incredibly ugly no one wants to have sex with him. I mean, look at the guy. I can only imagine what goes through Miguel Senior's mind when he gazes upon his once-beloved son and sees this cadaverous-looking cartoon staring back at him with its dead, lifeless eyes.

Give me back my boy, demon! he cries.

It's all so very sad.
 

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Call me crazy; but if you don’t like what’s being said about you on a forum that people have to PURPOSELY FIND, you can just not visit that website.
Radical idea I know

No, they can't because modern prog ideology dictates that ALL wrong think must be confronted, confronted, ridiculed/screamed at and silenced. All instances of wrong think uncontested and not called out is a grave danger.. somehow and to someone. This is why discourse is so fucked up and why society is in the state it is now. They believe in an absolutist mindset where only the right opinions should be allowed to even exist.
 
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