The Ethics of Sex with Trans-Identified Females - or Why Porking Pooners is Potentially Problematic

Is it ethical?

  • Yes, they want to be heckin' validated and treated like gay men. This is mutually beneficial.

    Votes: 401 30.0%
  • No, deceit is wrong.

    Votes: 643 48.1%
  • All ethics are spooks. All that matters is penis feels good.

    Votes: 294 22.0%

  • Total voters
    1,338
What are the moral implications of sticking your dick in crazy having sex with a woman who claims she is a man? Is it wrong to affirm her delusions for an easy lay?
Depends if she’s on testosterone or not
Is it gay?
Depends if she’s on testosterone or not

Is it more degenerate than homosex?
Depends if she’s on testosterone or not

Sex with anyone more hairy than myself should be illegal
 
The issue arises when you stop and look at the type of men who would intentionally go out of their way to do something like what is described in the OP.
Scumbags? On sex apps? No way.
What kind of dude signs up for a gay dating application with the sole intention of preying upon vulnerable mentally ill young women who think they are homosexual men?
They're not mentally ill young women, at least not mentally ill in any exculpatory capacity. They're not the victims.

What kind of woman is so narcissistic to think she's wanted on male homosexual sex apps? She's not a victim, at all. She's a homophobe.
 
  • There's no deceit, the pooner is not wronged.
  • Pooners are not crazy or truly retarded, they're "mentally ill" as in "have too many wrong opinions, which make them fail at life". Poonerism is a vice. Generally, it is perfectly ethical to take advantage of your virtues and others' vices.
  • It is however coomer behavior and therefore as bad as trolling for other slampig vagene.
  • Trolling for slampig vagene is more dangerous but more ethical than pumping and dumping ("seducing") normies, you're not contributing to the moral degradation of a fellow human.
  • Pooners are not predominantly or disproportionately victims of sex crimes.
    • It's a well-confirmed scientific fact that child rape does not lead to objectively worse outcomes for the victims (in excess of the outcomes they are already disposed to by being raised in circumstances that correlate whichever way with child rape).
      • People don't like bringing this up because they're afraid to be accused of defending pedos. All the above implies is the damage from child rape cannot be measured in money; therefore it makes little sense to punish it the same way we punish monetary crimes -- instead, pedos should be put into the woodchipper feet first.
 
Penis in vagina sex never has been and never will be gay. It's straight sex with extra steps when it comes to pooners.
I agree with @K!w!Fartz though. More context must be considered.
Has the pooner in question gotten top surgery (or bottom surgery? :cryblood: ) Are they on testosterone? How do they act?
Nearly all pooners I've seen and interacted with still appear to be visibly feminine in their speech and actions.
However if you're sticking your dick into a vagina, it is not gay sex.
 
When I saw this earlier I KNEW it would end up in mass debates.

All I can say is I seriously hope you guys don't do this. Having sex with a severely mentally ill woman to validate her sexual fantasies/brain damage is a negative for you both. I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
 
Penis in vagina sex never has been and never will be gay. It's straight sex with extra steps when it comes to pooners.
I agree with @K!w!Fartz though. More context must be considered.
Has the pooner in question gotten top surgery (or bottom surgery? :cryblood: ) Are they on testosterone? How do they act?
Nearly all pooners I've seen and interacted with still appear to be visibly feminine in their speech and actions.
However if you're sticking your dick into a vagina, it is not gay sex.
Following your logic having sex with feminine men and trannies isnt gay either.
 
First things first, we're only talking about skinny girls who have barely done testosterone right? Anything more is pushing into dicy territory.

Deceit isn't rape. We all suppress our unlikeable qualities and over exaggerate our positive ones. I hate rom coms with a passion, but my god will I endure them if it makes her happy (she also tolerates my autistic table top gaming which I appreciate). It also extends to politics. At college I would 100% larp as a leftie whenever it got brought up. I suspect a lot of other guys did. And pretending to validate some they/them woman for a hookup is no different.

It's basically just makeup for men. Or tucking your belly into your yoga pants. Sometime you gotta be less than honest. Hurts literally no one.
 
Just downloaded the app and there's no way to filter by gender and I felt like a fag for even installing and opening it, account deleted

0/10 would not recommend

You have to use filters. "Trans" tribe and "FTM" tag. You'll get guys in the mix who are willing to fuck pooners too.

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Just for clarity. I'm gay and do not fuck pooners.
 
Honestly I can't cosign willingly seeking out mentally ill pussy. I don't even get the draw, at best its a good lay, but is that worth now being connected to this wildcard of a person? After they're in contact with you, they will never not pull you into their shitty life. Also if you lie on your dating profile to attract certain types of people you're a slimy faggot. Talk about an easy way to not have any meaningful relationships in your life.

I have considered the prospect of hooking up with an ftm, but because my history with (admittedly relatively less) crazy women, I have decided I would go out of my way to avoid women like this at all costs. I say this as a tomboy/musclegirl enjoyer too. It's one of those things that is too good to be true, the side effects are just not immediately noticeable. Also they're gonna want you to fuck them in the ass and I think that's gross personally.
 
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