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The costs of setting up and maintaining FMC are very small. Enough to be covered with a 5% take on ~100K of funds raised, so I don't think it's going anywhere any time soon. That it took some guy who spent half a year in a medicated COVID coma like Luke Stone, who's five digits in the hole after the Target comics grift, to do it really goes to show how little effort has been put in by the 'leadership' towards advancing or even stabilizing CG after 5 years beyond Youtube livestreaming.
From what I can see Luke Stone has the benefit of being able to behave at least somewhat impartially without allowing his personal stuff to interfere with the platform he's building. You can't really have a platform that can see payment and personal information if the owner is unstable and willing to dox people he becomes pissy with as we've seen with Graf and Ralph in the past.
 
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In big boy comics news:


Legendary Fables creator/obscure Reignbow the Brute: Cool Story Bro contributor Bill Willingham has released Fables into the public domain after DC repeatedly violated their contract. He doesn't have the money to sue them, so he'll do the next best thing and turn the value of their hold over his IP into $0.



Fables Press Release

Subject: Fables Enters the Public Domain

15 September 2023

By Bill Willingham

For Immediate Release

The Lede

As of now, 15 September 2023, the comic book property called Fables, including all related Fables spin-offs and characters, is now in the public domain. What was once wholly owned by Bill Willingham is now owned by everyone, for all time. It’s done, and as most experts will tell you, once done it cannot be undone. Take-backs are neither contemplated nor possible.

Q: Why Did You Do This?

A number of reasons. I’ve thought this over for some time. In no particular order they are:

1) Practicality: When I first signed my creator-owned publishing contract with DC Comics, the company was run by honest men and women of integrity, who (for the most part) interpreted the details of that agreement fairly and above-board. When problems inevitably came up we worked it out, like reasonable men and women. Since then, over the span of twenty years or so, those people have left or been fired, to be replaced by a revolving door of strangers, of no measurable integrity, who now choose to interpret every facet of our contract in ways that only benefit DC Comics and its owner companies. At one time the Fables properties were in good hands, and now, by virtue of attrition and employee replacement, the Fables properties have fallen into bad hands.

Since I can’t afford to sue DC, to force them to live up to the letter and the spirit of our long-time agreements; since even winning such a suit would take ridiculous amounts of money out of my pocket and years out of my life (I’m 67 years old, and don’t have the years to spare), I’ve decided to take a different approach, and fight them in a different arena, inspired by the principles of asymmetric warfare. The one thing in our contract the DC lawyers can’t contest, or reinterpret to their own benefit, is that I am the sole owner of the intellectual property. I can sell it or give it away to whomever I want.

I chose to give it away to everyone. If I couldn’t prevent Fables from falling into bad hands, at least this is a way I can arrange that it also falls into many good hands. Since I truly believe there are still more good people in the world than bad ones, I count it as a form of victory.



2) Philosophy: In the past decade or so, my thoughts on how to reform the trademark and copyright laws in this country (and others, I suppose) have undergone something of a radical transformation. The current laws are a mishmash of unethical backroom deals to keep trademarks and copyrights in the hands of large corporations, who can largely afford to buy the outcomes they want.

In my template for radical reform of those laws I would like it if any IP is owned by its original creator for up to twenty years from the point of first publication, and then goes into the public domain for any and all to use. However, at any time before that twenty year span bleeds out, you the IP owner can sell it to another person or corporate entity, who can have exclusive use of it for up to a maximum of ten years. That’s it. Then it cannot be resold. It goes into the public domain. So then, at the most, any intellectual property can be kept for exclusive use for up to about thirty years, and no longer, without exception.

Of course, if I’m going to believe such radical ideas, what kind of hypocrite would I be if I didn’t practice them? Fables has been my baby for about twenty years now. It’s time to let it go. This is my first test of this process. If it works, and I see no legal reason why it won’t, look for other properties to follow in the future. Since DC, or any other corporate entity, doesn’t actually own the property, they don’t get a say in this decision.


Q: What Exactly Has DC Comics Done to Provoke This?

Too many things to list exhaustively, but here are some highlights: Throughout the years of my business relationship with DC, with Fables and with other intellectual properties, DC has always been in violation of their agreements with me. Usually it’s in smaller matters, like forgetting to seek my opinion on artists for new stories, or for covers, or formats of new collections and such. In those times, when called on it, they automatically said, “Sorry, we overlooked you again. It just fell through the cracks.” They use the “fell through the cracks” line so often, and so reflexively, that I eventually had to bar them from using it ever again. They are often late reporting royalties, and often under-report said royalties, forcing me to go after them to pay the rest of what’s owed.

Lately though their practices have grown beyond these mere annoyances, prompting some sort of showdown. First they tried to strong arm the ownership of Fables from me. When Mark Doyle and Dan Didio first approached me with the idea of bringing Fables back for its 20th anniversary (both gentlemen since fired from DC), during the contract negotiations for the new issues, their legal negotiators tried to make it a condition of the deal that the work be done as work for hire, effectively throwing the property irrevocably into the hands of DC. When that didn’t work their excuse was, “Sorry, we didn’t read your contract going into these negotiations. We thought we owned it.”

More recently, during talks to try to work out our many differences, DC officers admitted that their interpretation of our publishing agreement, and the following media rights agreement, is that they could do whatever they wanted with the property. They could change stories or characters in any way they wanted. They had no obligation whatsoever to protect the integrity and value of the IP, either from themselves, or from third parties (Telltale Games, for instance) who want to radically alter the characters, settings, history and premises of the story (I’ve seen the script they tried to hide from me for a couple of years). Nor did they owe me any money for licensing the Fables rights to third parties, since such a license wasn’t anticipated in our original publishing agreement.

When they capitulated on some of the points in a later conference call, promising on the phone to pay me back monies owed for licensing Fables to Telltale Games, for example, in the execution of the new agreement, they reneged on their word and offered the promised amount instead as a “consulting fee,” which avoided the precedent of admitting this was money owed, and included a non-disclosure agreement that would prevent me from saying anything but nice things about Telltale or the license.

And so on. There’s so much more, but these, as I said, are some of the highlights. At that point, since I disagreed on all of their new interpretations of our longstanding agreements, we were in conflict. They practically dared me to sue them to enforce my rights, knowing it would be a long and debilitating process. Instead I began to consider other ways to go.

Q: Are You Concerned at What DC Will Do Now?

No. I gave them years to do the right thing. I tried to reason with them, but you can’t reason with the unreasonable. They used these years to make soothing promises, tell lies about how dedicated they were towards working this out, and keep dragging things out as long as possible. I gave them an opportunity to renegotiate the contracts from the ground up, putting everything in unambiguous language, and they ignored that offer. I gave them the opportunity, twice, to simply tear up our contracts, and we each go our separate ways, and they ignored those offers. I tried to go over their heads, to deal directly with their new corporate masters, and maybe find someone willing to deal in good faith, and they blocked all attempts to do so. (Try getting any officer of DC Comics to identify who they report to up the company ladder. I dare you.) In any case, without giving them details, I warned them months in advance that this moment was coming. I told them what I was about to do would be “both legal and ethical.” Now it’s happened.

Note that my contracts with DC Comics are still in force. I did nothing to break them, and cannot unilaterally end them. I still can’t publish Fables comics through anyone but them. I still can’t authorize a Fables movie through anyone but them. Nor can I license Fables toys nor lunchboxes, nor anything else. And they still have to pay me for the books they publish. And I’m not giving up on the other money they owe. One way or another, I intend to get my 50% of the money they’ve owed me for years for the Telltale Game and other things.

However, you, the new 100% owner of Fables never signed such agreements. For better or worse, DC and I are still locked together in this unhappy marriage, perhaps for all time.

But you aren’t.

If I understand the law correctly (and be advised that copyright law is a mess; purposely vague and murky, and no two lawyers – not even those specializing in copyright and trademark law – agree on anything), you have the rights to make your Fables movies, and cartoons, and publish your Fables books, and manufacture your Fables toys, and do anything you want with your property, because it’s your property.


Much more embarrassingly, Alan Moore has ceded all non-comic royalties from Watchmen over to Black Lives Matter. Here is a video of Frog regaling his people with the story of Moore's 36 year feud with DC, describing his buddy Geoff Johns' Doomsday Clock as a vigorous 'rubbing sand in the vagina' of ol' Uncle Al.
 
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Legendary Fables creator/obscure Reignbow the Brute: Cool Story Bro contributor Bill Willingham has released Fables into the public domain after DC repeatedly violated their contract. He doesn't have the money to sue them, so he'll do the next best thing and turn the value of their hold over his IP into $0.
What an absolute chad.
 
You see, it's very personally inconvenient to Richard C Meyer to have to actually market his own comic, and he'd prefer it if his fans customers backers would just do it for him instead and free him up for more worthwhile pursuits, like attending shoe store events and tirelessly covering the social media accounts of a handful of low level female Marvel employees.
Last I looked, Zack was attacking people who didn't like the new Indiana Jones movie.

I just can't bring myself to care after he gave up against Mark Waid. That just sucked all the air out of the movement. It's like he didn't understand why people were supporting him.
 
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Fables characters are already public domain, being from fairy tales, folk tales, nursery rhymes etc. Both NBC and ABC were scheduled to adapt Fables and ended up instead creating Grimm and Once Upon a Time when they realized hey we don't have to pay anyone to make something slightly different with these characters.

However now if anyone wants to directly reference Fables in such series in theory they can. The major things that are released are the settings of Fabletown and The Farm and the name Sherriff Bigby Wolf. Plus more settings and concepts and designs, the name Fables itself. It's in the spirit of the folk tales for it to be public domain. Plus any even slight damage it does to DC is commendable after what Willingham has gone thru.
This is getting more press and Bleeding Cool covered it adding the fact that Willingham previously did the same thing with his Elementals series when a dispute with Dynamite comics over ownership was happening.

Some of the many ways Willingham has been screwed over the years:
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UPDATE:
In response to CBR DC comics has issued a statement refuting the public domain and asserting their copyright.

The Fables comic books and graphic novels published by DC, and the storylines, characters and elements therein, are owned by DC and protected under the copyright laws of the United States and throughout the world in accordance with applicable law, and are not in the public domain. DC reserves all rights and will take such action as DC deems necessary or appropriate to protect its intellectual property rights.
Also copyright filings have surfaced.
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It's over Fables public domain bros.

 
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Didn't know Cecil had decided to fully facedox himself. Knew he had given up on the mask at in person events, but didn't know he was now posting his face to his own twitter. Is he going to stop wearing the mask on livestreams?
At this point I think he's just desperate for anyone to notice him at all. Rekieta too.
 
Didn't know Cecil had decided to fully facedox himself. Knew he had given up on the mask at in person events, but didn't know he was now posting his face to his own twitter. Is he going to stop wearing the mask on livestreams?

yeah he’s been doing that for a few months now.
 
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It's over Fables public domain bros.

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Maybe, maybe not.


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Mainstream comic industry professionals are mobilizing rapidly to try and cancel Willingham on behalf of the abusive publishing corporation that exploits them.
This was covered by a number of outlets, namely Perch, Thinking Critical, Rich Johnston, Heidi Macdonald, Engletine and went largely ignored by CG other than some perfunctory videos by Shane Davis and Simple Zack. Comicsgate by and large during this was content to spend their time doing more Comicgate-y things, like livestreaming themselves watching daily dose of internet videos, interviewing "Jazmin Jafar" the "OnlyFans Lawyer", and holding tepid livestreams trying to gin up drama over the OF thot interview.
 
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Mainstream comic industry professionals are mobilizing rapidly to try and cancel Willingham on behalf of the abusive publishing corporation that exploits them.
Mental illness and a bad attitude just goes with being a comic producer. Hash tag not all, etc, but just from the ones I know irl, they are the most neurotic weirdo nerds imaginable. They are ten times more emotionally unstable than anime fans. The only thing worse than not breaking into comics is breaking into comics. They do nothing but backbite each other and cry. I'm just in a friend-of-a-friend situation fortunately, so I'm just close enough to witness the madness. Over time I realized I was just seeing CG drama but in real life.

My advice for comic creatives who reeeeeaaaaally want to make comics is to be a solo act and for the love of God, never EVER try to 'network' or work for a company. CG and their endless chain of betrayals is the norm, and it never stops. CG just gave a tiny window into the circular firing squad, leaving normal people scratching their heads at the insanity.
 
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Willingham has made it clear he will not sue you if you sell Fables fanfic, while DC has made it clear they will. Willingham isn't taking DC to court either. This has stirred up a lot of news outlets even beyond the usual Comicsgate baloney so if Willingham strikes before people forget him he could make some good money off a new project.

My advice for comic creatives who reeeeeaaaaally want to make comics is to be a solo act and for the love of God, never EVER try to 'network' or work for a company. CG and their endless chain of betrayals is the norm, and it never stops. CG just gave a tiny window into the circular firing squad, leaving normal people scratching their heads at the insanity.
I agree, it should be looked at as a solo endeavor and the best way to get things finished art/writing wise is to not be social. The problem is how do you sell the damn things once it's made without networking? I suppose avoid idle networking like a Comicsgate drunk stream or joining groups. Find other ways to promote that aren't dependent on psychopathic backstabbing narcissists?
 
Matt fiowler way to go guy, I am going to back your book, I want the package all 3 books at the same time ......
Comicsgate and the fandom menace movement along with you Snyder verse movement, has come to a conclusion, esry miller may be a bad human beingf, but the flash movie sas out fucking standing ....... If the flash is the end of the DCEU so be it, well fucking done ..... The flash movie was out fuckingstanding ..... the woke vs the not woke, the3 left vs the right .... the dceu was not woke, it was a train wreck but it was fucking good and I am entertained .....


We go to watch plays. watch moviues, listen to music, to be entertained not inspect the actors crimes in life.... the actor gets payed to act and entertaine, and the flash was great probably my favorite movie ...... bringing back the ortigional batman member berries was fun but it was done right .... and that chick who played super woman sold the role ...... 10 out of ten great movie .... honeswtly DCEU vwell fucking done ....



Fowler good luck brothe3r, I am goiung to back if I get ALL 3 IN ONE
 
TUG(aka Mathew Lewis) and Lola(aka Ashley Lewis) are apparently getting a divorce.
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She has started a GFM to raise money to get custody of her kids. There are some crazy accusations in the description. Allegedly, TUG has taken all the funds and her children away from her and that he wanted to abort both of the kids. Guess TUG will have to find another woman to catfish his enemies into getting their dick pics for TUG's jerk off material potential blackmail.

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@DammitPerez was way ahead of me and did a much better write up in the TUG thread Here.
 
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An exceptional and portly individual drove to Eric July's warehouse and posted his superchats that July would not read on stream to the front of the warehouse. He literally taped 3 $20 bills with his superchats. I am not able to archive the video, but here is the Twitter Link.
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July's response(link):
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There has been more people commenting on it including Dick Masterson and Darth Lunga, but I dont have the time to screenshot/archive all of it.
 
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An exceptional and portly individual drove to Eric July's warehouse and posted his superchats that July would not read on stream to the front of the warehouse. He literally taped 3 $20 bills with his superchats. I am not able to archive the video, but here is the Twitter Link.
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July's response(link):
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There has been more people commenting on it including Dick Masterson and Darth Lunga, but I dont have the time to screenshot/archive all of it.
Clippaverse is the Masterson/Riley "parody" company btw.

EDIT: Someone mentioned in the Juju thread that the disgusting pigman in the picture is actually Riley.

Both Riley and his retarded furry pet thot Mint also happen to be JDA's new besties.
They've been hanging out in his chat the last couple of weeks and he's been kissing their asses.
 
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