Gross Aella Martin / Rachael Antier Slick / Abigail Glass / @Aella_Girl / @Aellagirl / @Miss_Aella / u/Sweatywoman / RedVerse / Apostate Slick / Knowingless - Rationalist LessWrong poly libertarian hooker girl throwing rape orgy parties. Former $100k/month OnlyFans star and $3,000/hour prostitute. Would rather come up with gross hypotheticals than shower.

[JJLiautaud]

Sorry, I have debunked this man's claims because of a single contradiction which undermines his entire thesis. Aella, and presumably her father, does not understand logic and rational thinking. If any reasoning is happening it seems to be happening backwards, starting with conclusions. Aella's radical inductive reasoning through Twitter polls rarely seems to upend her pre-established conclusions, for example.

I would put what he's getting at in a different way to describe what may be the greater sin of the rationalist cult, a rather common one in philosophy, an assumption that because you can get to rational (or rational seeming) conclusions working forward you must be able to derive rational conclusions working backwards. Except this simply isn't empirically tenable. Either because God created us or we evolved from lower forms of life, in neither case is there reason to believe that a whole bunch of essential premises were created from rational thinking. Try asking a squirrel why he looks for food to eat and see if he can explain it to you either rationally or irrationally. Now you could explain hunger and food to someone almost entirely this way, but for all of human history until recently you couldn't. You can't presume that this means everything can be done this way now, for example, why does Honeycomb.io Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones rape?

What he is getting at is fundamentally a Romantic notion; that the only things in this life that are worth anything involve to some degree an irrational leap of faith to live life intuitively.

 

[Marche]

 

[Trombonista]

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This is a trick question.

 

[Vecr]

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My lawyer has advised me not to answer this question.

 

[Basil Julep]

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"Oh fuck how do I get this crazy bitch out of my house as fast as possible without ending up on Kiwifarms?"

J/k I'd probably call the cops and press charges.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Isn't it funny how rationalists are never obsessed with why humans love birds, or flowers? That would be an interesting question, to think about how wonder and delight can be maximized for our benefit or whatever. But it's always just about justifying weird fetishes, nothing else could ever be as interesting or urgent as their own coom.

/thread
No seriously, that's it. That's entirely it. You win Kiwi Farms today.

It's actually nuts how she's actually attractive, isn't a normie, has a high IQ, isn't poor, and lives in the West. With all of those advantages she could've had a nice life for herself yet she decided to go over and whore herself out. Women with beauty and high intellects typically have it very easy and are never in situations where they feel pushed to whore themselves out yet this is what Aella chose.

I mean, she's got a pretty ok life. She's unmarried and would like to be, but beyond that I don't think she's unhappy with her choices. She's got it pretty good/easy where I'm standing. Not from an existential viewpoint, of course; In that facet her life is a flaming bag of dog poop. But from a material point of view I think she got that easy, "nice" life that is usually afforded pretty midwit Western women.

Elizer Yudkowsky, who Aella simps for pretty heavily.

I think she'd marry Big Yud if he wasn't so fucking hideous.

Sorry, I have debunked this man's claims because of a single contradiction which undermines his entire thesis. Aella, and presumably her father, does not understand logic and rational thinking. If any reasoning is happening it seems to be happening backwards, starting with conclusions. Aella's radical inductive reasoning through Twitter polls rarely seems to upend her pre-established conclusions, for example.

I would put what he's getting at in a different way to describe what may be the greater sin of the rationalist cult, a rather common one in philosophy, an assumption that because you can get to rational (or rational seeming) conclusions working forward you must be able to derive rational conclusions working backwards. Except this simply isn't empirically tenable. Either because God created us or we evolved from lower forms of life, in neither case is there reason to believe that a whole bunch of essential premises were created from rational thinking. Try asking a squirrel why he looks for food to eat and see if he can explain it to you either rationally or irrationally. Now you could explain hunger and food to someone almost entirely this way, but for all of human history until recently you couldn't. You can't presume that this means everything can be done this way now, for example, why does Honeycomb.io Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones rape?

I don't profess to be a neuroscientist, but I once had a friend who studied cognition who told me that humans actually have no idea why we do what we do. Something to do with the hemispheres of our brains not communicating in that way so that really, when we give a "reason" we did something or believe something our brain kinda guesses as to why based on context. So in that way it's all just bullshit. We can examine our emotions and behavior all we want, but ultimately we don't actually know why we do things.

I wish I had the time to research what he was talking about and I dunno if this is making sense, but yeah it's a conversation I had over a spliff that has stuck with me for years and I think is pertinent.

 

[Chuck McGill]

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[Freya]

Being quirky is her deus ex machina. not making money from onlyfans as much now? she just got bored doing it because she's lolquirky. she is her own mary sue self insert

 

[Golden Face]

i just stumbled upon this thread for the first time. you're telling me the broad shouldered, lanky, rectangle face shaped person is NOT a troon? that's an actual woman? wow

 

[AirdropShitposts]

This is a trick question.

Yeah, what would Aella be doing in a shower? Completely unrealistic scenario.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Yeah, what would Aella be doing in a shower? Completely unrealistic scenario.

Taking photos of herself to make it look like she showers.

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Aella compares herself to sex studies published in journals.

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She complains about the "rumor" that her research is just Twitter polls... even though 99% of it literally is.

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Remember everyone, you need to stop criticizing her for not being a real researcher, this is a very sore spot for her. It's "complete lies" and her "reputation" is "getting ruined"!

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Unfortunately for her, she hasn't been published in journals yet. The only recent thing she's gotten into is something called "Asterisk" magazine... which is just a magazine for rationalists to circlejerk other rationalists.

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Of course all the rats are sucking it up. Here's one describing her as an "outsider sex preference researcher" (translation: weird gross fetish researcher).

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Here's Big Schlomo calling her "one of Earth's few real scientists".

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And says she's "crushing" academics with her "better data".

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And Kelsey Piper, Effective Altruist sperg and Vox journoscum, with this weird claim that people are "furious" about Aella (who?) because she's so good at The Science™ (lol no) and is in favor of "weird sex stuff" (yeah like her wanting AI-generated child porn).

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We haven't even gotten to the article yet. First off, fuck this site in particular for blocking my VPN. Why do they need such an aggressive firewall on a read-only site? I don't know, but rationalists are faggots.

And no, the ReCaptcha did not work. I'm not going to bother doing the dance of cycling through nodes to find an unblocked one, I'll just read the article through the archived version. Fucking rat niggers.

We're off to a good start because her first paragraph is already complaining about people "yelling at me for doing surveys on the internet."


Remember y'all, don't criticize her for doing True & Honest research!


Because she literally does the best possible way and anything else would be worse, or so she says.


Her argument, using vore as an example, is that finding vore fetishists introduces a nonrandom sample.


Her favourite bugbear pedophilia gets a shout, which she categorizes as just a "sexual fetish". She argues that pedophiles aren't anti-social and compulsive, we just think they are because we study them from outpatient facilities and that introduces selection bias.


She does not apply this reasoning to her own shit. Most of the rest of the article is dedicated to sperging about her oh-so-carefully designed "Really Friggin' Long Survey" which is just unadultered bullshit to make it seem more scientific than it is. Case in point, her discussion of incentivising people to take the test ends with this:

Won't this introduce a bias towards people who want to show off how "freaky" they are and basically filter out normal people? What's the incentive for normal people to take the survey if they know they're going to get "you're normal and boring" at the end of it?

Actually, I don't think she cares about normal people. She explicitly says she dedicates her autism because she wants to normalize sexual fetishes. (Like pedophilia...) So fuck you, normies, stop being so normal.

 

[tehpope]

The main stream:

Clips:

 

[Markass the Worst]

[snip]

preservetube: 1, 2, 3
The one where she reacts to Billie Eilish's account is so dumb. (Disclaimer: reading auto subs)

Billie says porn fucked up her brain because she, as a 14-year-old mind you, had been introduced to violent BDSM porn and was expected by her peers to be into it. Then Aella just says "where did she get the idea that being hurt, like, the abusive porn was the cool porn, like was she around a bunch of other like preteens being like, hey did you watch this violent BDSM, like, I just, I'm legitimately confused."

Yes, Aella. That is what she said. That is what is happening. Why do you doubt this? Why do you not take issue with a 14-year-old watching porn in the first place?!

Then she says Billie is "just into it and then like hasn't come to terms with the fact that she's kinky" (ew) and then is confused by her statement that she didn't actually find it attractive. She says "it takes quite a lot of like cultural, um, force in some way to like make people regularly watch porn that they're not aroused by"--well no freaking duh that's the point you fucking retard--but then weasels her way out of taking heat for her criticism by saying "I'm not saying that like she's incorrect or something, I'm just, I noticed that something's not adding up here."

The rest of the video, or the other videos for that matter aren't much better.

 

[tehpope]

@Markass the Worst I did archive them locally, but the site is pretty slow atm so uploads aren't possible.

 

[tehpope]

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=sTGJZvQZBOE

Another clip.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

She complains about the "rumor" that her research is just Twitter polls... even though 99% of it literally is.

I mean, genuinely: other than the one survey that she heavily advertised on her twitter and other similar platforms, what had she done? What the fuck has she accomplished? I know Big Yud wants to stick his lil Yiddish sausage in her but otherwise why do these people kiss her ass? She's so tedious and self-aggrandizing.

The main stream:

Clips:

She's looking pretty jowly. Love that for her.

Then she says Billie is "just into it and then like hasn't come to terms with the fact that she's kinky" (ew)

This is beyond gross and I can't believe she isn't being Twitter cancelled for this take - except no one gives a fuck about her and 90% of her followers just want to see her tits. It just doesn't seem very rational that somehow the answer to everything is kinky=good.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

She's looking pretty jowly.

The Taylor Lorenz boxed wine makeover.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Idk if anyone else listens to Blocked and Reported here, but a couple episodes back Katie fawned over Aella (again). Katie has such a lady boner for Aella it icks me out. Anyway, she came up because Katie and Jesse were at that "Has the sexual revolution failed women?" Symposium thing that Barry Weiss put on. Katie was annoyed that Grimes was there and found her boring and vapid - she said they should have had Aella instead and that Aella would have drawn similar numbers, crowd-wise.

First off, I dunno why she'd think that Aella would draw Grimes numbers and secondly, I dunno why she seems to think that the things Aella says are actually interesting instead of just pornsick non-sequitors.

Katie is also friends with Dan Savage, who I have found insufferable since he declared with all his omnipotence that male bisexuality doesn't exist, so I guess she's got shitty taste in people and a very low bar for "being interesting."

Sigh.

 

[keke]

She says "it takes quite a lot of like cultural, um, force in some way to like make people regularly watch porn that they're not aroused by”

Imagine being a female, curious about wtf sex is, immediately bombarded with images of extreme and violent penetration all centring women being treated like slaves. The camera not even bothering to show the face of the male. All of a sudden there’s this line between being a human and being a woman. I’m not even talking about BDSM, I’m talking your average porn video, to someone who doesn’t even know what sex is. I’ve heard women IRL talk about how it genuinely made them confused and fearful for the first time, some kept watching because they’re kids and it’s shocking, they can’t believe it.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

That social science cope is a lot of words for how much you've missed the point. Nobody was saying her "work" was some kind of crime, merely that she was making claims it didn't support because she was ignoring well-tested practices. The "random sample" thing wasn't about her targeting vore fetishists or whatever, it was her claims about the polls she was putting on her account that would never be a random sample. She's pointing to something irrelevant to justify all her practices. If you ask vore fetishists and say up front "hey I asked a forum of vore fetishists" nobody complains because the disclaimer is right there. Aella was, and still is (as are her defenders), running around talking about her "sample size" as if this meant something.

Imagine being a female, curious about wtf sex is, immediately bombarded with images of extreme and violent penetration all centring women being treated like slaves. The camera not even bothering to show the face of the male. All of a sudden there’s this line between being a human and being a woman. I’m not even talking about BDSM, I’m talking your average porn video, to someone who doesn’t even know what sex is. I’ve heard women IRL talk about how it genuinely made them confused and fearful for the first time, some kept watching because they’re kids and it’s shocking, they can’t believe it.

This is a perfect example of Aella claiming expertise while being ignorant and not having looked into anything she claims to be an expert on. There's porn for women and porn for couples and so on. The mere fact this exists, and that people are attempting it, obviously illustrates that "standard" porn is not finding an audience who may otherwise be interested. It may fail, maybe MacKinnon's right that porn inherently is anti-woman, but it's not unrecognized and even regular porn, like any medium, tries to break free of these kinds of tropes to better speak to an audience it's missing. Aella handwaves anything about contemplating porn as an art form or medium or industry and considerations about improving it or its impact by simply declaring it "good" and therefore framing any objections or criticism to any specific component as a complete moral objection of a strawman form.

A pattern with her.

edit: Also, a few weeks back Aella was talking about how there should be "porn for teens" or whatever. When Billie offers up a story that fits this proposal almost to a T: "they'll see it anyway, at least make it better and less harmful" she instead takes offense on behalf of the porn and starts making a bunch of accusations at Billie. Rather than seeing how it supports one of her ideas about porn she focuses on dismissing the critique and the person instead.