UK United Kingdom Royal Family / Royal Families Drama General Thread - formerly "Prince Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals"

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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

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In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

 
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this is something i never understood and still don't understand. what made people obsess over her so much, why was she loved and adored by so many? as far as i know she never did anything notable aside from marrying a prince, and other women who married british princes later (camilla and kate middleton) didn't attract the kind of cultish devotion that diana had, so it can't be just that.
I think Steam Deck's post pretty much covers it. I'd like to add this:
I think her love story had a fairytale air to it at the time: Young, sweet, shy, beautiful girl is courted by royal prince and future king. I'm not Bri'ish so I don't know what their attitude towards the BRF was at the time, but it seems like people weren't as cynical about the BRF as they are now, so they were willing to believe the fairytale. I think the magic of the monarchy and royal marriage largely dissipated after Diana's fairytale marriage went to hell, and this is partially why Kate's relationship isn't romanticized in the same way.

As for Camilla, Charles was cheating on Diana with her during their marriage, so Camilla was always the villain. (Many people still despise Camilla to this day for it.)

So why people adored Diana: the "fairytale royal romance story", her glamour and innocent-seeming personality. And probably most of all the times she used her intense media spotlight to highlight humanitarian issues:

When the AIDS crisis was raging people were terrified of touching AIDS patients, so Diana touched them:


This did more to convince the public it was safe to be around and touch people with AIDS than anything else.

She also walked through a minefield in Angola to draw attention to children who were being maimed and killed there:


She did stuff like this all the time.

Diana was not the perfect angel people believed her to be, but she did do an enormous amount of good by bringing attention to issues like these and supporting charities. She was genuinely compassionate towards the suffering (comforting people in need helped her feel better when her own private life was a shitshow), and people loved her for it.

Her crazy behavior in private wasn't known to the public, and as Steam Deck said she died before her reputation could be ruined by it.


Anyway, enough Diana fagging. Some more Meghan tidbits I've come across:

Mark Dolan called her "Woko Moano". This is a questionable source so maybe didn't happen but funny if true. (S | A)

The Markle-Beckham friendship reportedly broke down because Meghan and Harry accused the Beckhams of leaking stories to the press. Oy vey the irony. (S | A)
Despite what appeared to be a pretty solid friendship over the years, the relationship appeared fractured when reports came out stating Victoria was helping Meghan.

Harry and Meghan were said to be worried close friends might be leaking stories about them to the press and were determined to find out who could be behind it.

Harry confronted David with his suspicions in a phone call, leaving the Manchester United alum "furious" as per the Mail On Sunday.

An insider close to the Posh and Becks revealed "any making-up now is so unlikely".

At the time, another source previously told The Sun: "Inexplicably, [Meghan] feared Victoria was behind it — I mean, the idea that Victoria Beckham would be personally ringing journalists to give them a scoop is ridiculous — and spoke to Harry about it.

"Harry is very protective of Meghan, and decided to deal with the matter head-on, by directly contacting his good pal, David. He quickly put Harry right, and the two men agreed to move on — but it certainly made things awkward for a while."

As if you needed more reason to hate Joe Biden, turns out his sister and political strategist supports Meghan, and plenty of braindead Democrats would vote for her even over Hillary. (S | A)

Meghan Markle is "clinging" to her royal title "for dear life" with an expert tearing apart her chances of making a stunning move into US politics or even the White House.

Prince Harry and Meghan have been looking to forge their own careers away from British Royal Family life but more than three years later, they still have their Duke and Duchess of Sussex titles.

Meghan had been linked with the vacant Senate hot seat following the death of Dianne Feinstein last week. California Governor Gavin Newsom has opted for Democratic strategist and former labor leader Laphonza Butler on an interim basis.

The Duchess of Sussex has frequently been linked with a move into US politics, while it has previously been reported that she was receiving guidance from Newsom.

But Royal Family author Angela Levin told Sky News Australia: "Meghan Markle could never really be a politician.

"She’s got very, very thin skin, and she also would have to lose her titles as I believe Harry would as well.

"She’s clinging onto them for dear life, so I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that she’d ever get anything in parliament.

"It's so ludicrous to think that she could just go in at a high level."

Meghan missing out on the vacant Senator's seat has not put an end to the rumors she could still one day enter US politics or even the White House.

The Duchess of Sussex has made a series of public interventions into US politics since she and Harry relocated to Montecito, California, lobbying politicians in the country for changes to parental leave and climate policy.

Last year, she was interviewed by feminist pioneer Gloria Steinem for Vogue, where she spoke about the US Supreme Court overturning the historic ruling from the Wade v Roe case in 1973 on abortion.

It was also reported that Joe Biden's sister Valerie Biden Owens, who is also his political strategist, had endorsed Meghan as a potential candidate for the hot seat.

The Duchess also topped a poll in which Democrats were asked which women they would vote for. She tied with vice president Kamala Harris, and was ahead of former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, according to MailOnline.

Rudy Giuliani, the ex-New York mayor and former personal lawyer of Donald Trump, recently gave his opinion on whether Meghan could make a run for the White House.

He told GB News: "I don’t see it. But look, I should shut up, you never know in America. It seems unlikely but not impossible.

"American politics is very unpredictable and it’s getting more that way."

Some recent SecondhandCoke info:
Ellen DeGeneres reportedly hates Meghan because Meghan lied about her and didn't invite her to the wedding. Ellen later brought her on the show and made her do dumb shit to purposely make her look ridiculous (and Meghan was too retarded to realize this). (S | A)
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WME was hoping to get brand deals for Meghan after Invictus but it hasn't happened, and Meghan is now wearing factory clothes. (S | A)
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Meghan is physically violent. A commenter points out that Meghan's rescue beagle ended up with two broken legs while in her care... (S | A)
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This just in, it appears Meghan has begun her reign of terror on YouTube. Frequent Meghan watcher/commentator Meghan's Mole got demonetized. (S | A)
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The above video. (I don't know who this fag is, never seen him before, but he's talking about it so here you go.)

MM's YouTube channel is still up. Here's some updates from her community tab. She also reports having problems with her Paypal (maybe because of Meghan too?):
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This apparently isn't the first time either:
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Some commenters are suggesting it's because MM was planning to cover the supposed moon bumps (and possibly surrogacy conspiracy).

I don't buy the surrogacy claim. If there was concrete evidence of it I would, but it sounds like wishful thinking on the part of Meghan's more deranged alogs.
I can believe she used moon bumps to enlarge her stomach though. She was always caressing the damn thing (which royal women aren't supposed to do), and it seemed like she got off on the whole "I'm PREGNANT with a ROYAL BABY!!!!" pulp fiction romance shtick. Royal pregnancies are one of those things people take more interest in, so besides the constant grievancewhoring I think being pregnant was one of the few things she could rely on to draw the media spotlight. Makes sense to me that she would wear bumps to exaggerate the size to farm more attention/sympathy.

Or maybe Markle's just jealous MM was making more money than her.

People are also pointing out that there's no clear evidence it was Meghan, that just seems to be an assumption.
MM did a stream where she apparently talks about it here:

I haven't listened to it yet, but I did hear her say YouTube didn't give her a reason for demonetization.


Edit to avoid doublepost: NYC mayor Eric Adams rejected their request for police security. This happened prior to their "car chase". (S | A)
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(Image link in post is of Meghan and Harry with De Blasio and his family, nothing important.)

The fake car chase BS could've been in retaliation for this.
 
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It occurred to me recently that Meghan is an honest to god real life spoiled princess. :story:

Btw Hollywood showed Meghan some love again:

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle slam 'savage' 'Family Guy' attack as an 'outrageous slur': report​

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are reportedly less than impressed with the recent “Family Guy” episode that mocked the runaway royals.

Sources close to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex claim that the pair have labeled the “savage” episode as an “outrageous slur,” according to Closer magazine.

The couple found themselves the butt of the joke in a recent episode of the series, in which their money-hungry ways were mercilessly mocked by the animated show.

The pair, who quit royal life in 2020, have been feeling like “they’re not being taken seriously enough by people” and that they “can’t catch a break,” the source adds.

“Meghan said she won’t be humiliated like this and is desperate for a solution. They’re in full panic mode,” a source told the outlet, adding that the couple has called it an “attack from inside Hollywood.”

“What’s hit them hardest and cuts the deepest of all is that it plays up the whole notion they’re self-entitled grifters or spoilt brats,” the insider added.

Elsewhere, the source said that the “Suits” alum believes the only way for them to save their struggling brand is for Harry to “swallow his pride and beg for his family’s forgiveness.”

The Post has reached out to reps for the Sussexes for comment.

The episode in question roasted the couple over their Netflix deal, rumored to be worth $100 million, and showed Peter Griffin (voiced by Seth MacFarlane) on an adventure to become a TV extra to make money.

“I’ll go it alone, just like Meghan Markle and Prince Harry,” he says.

The scene then cuts to animated versions of Harry and Meghan, lounging by a pool, when their butler comes with a stack of envelopes.

“Sir, your millions from Netflix for … No one knows what,” the butler says, to which Harry replies, “Put it with the rest of them.”

Markle then urged Harry that the pair needs to create a $250,000 sponsored Instagram post for Del Taco.

The clip ends with Harry seemingly expressing some regret over leaving his privileged life in Britain as he announces, “I shouldn’t have left the made-up nonsense.”

The jab from the “Family Guy,” which was created by writer, actor and comic Seth MacFarlane and first aired in 1999, is eerily reminiscent of recent comments made by Spotify CEO Bill Simmons, who referred to Meghan and Harry as “f–king grifters.”

This isn’t the first time the couple has been a punchline at the expense of an animated series.

Just eight months earlier, Comedy Central’s long-running hit show South Park trashed the royal couple in an episode titled “The Worldwide Privacy Tour.”
Apparently Harry said in Spare that he was a huge fan of Family Guy (haven't read it so can't verify), so this must've stung him bad.

It seems like the media's interest in Meghan is finally dying, and I was going to say "At this point we care more about her than the media does" only to come here and find the thread completely dead. LOL


ETA: Here's the latest from SecondhandCoke:
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I said at the time that WME picked her up that it was done with her paying them a specific amount up front almost like a retainer and their agreeing to work for her until that money ran out. The only thing left is for them to represent her through the limited amount of time that she will be valuable post-divorce from Harry, where she will once again attempt to monetize victimhood. However, my understanding is that the divorce delay is because people are threatening under the table to come forward with all her dirty laundry, and between that and the possibility that Samantha's lawsuit will go into discovery which will open even more cans of worms and emails, texts, and depositions would be added to public record, Meghan is a bit paralyzed. The only card this woman has to play is the victim card. She can't trade on talent or beauty or unique thoughts. She only has victimhood. If she strikes out on her own and tries to add Harry to the list of aggressors, the dam of information about her will break, and it will all reveal what, to quote Janis Ian from Mean Girls, an "axe wound she really is." Harry has always had AND STILL HAS more power and connections and intrigue than she has. She and WME and starting to realize that if goes Amber Heard on him, she will get buried in her own shit as person after person reveals who she really is. They all have revealed that they can remain angry at Harry and yet still reveal her abuse of everyone with whom she's come in contact. And I've heard they've got videos, emails, and a shit ton of witnesses. Meghan's at an impasse and the money is running out . It's going to be interesting to see what happens next.

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Her lawyers, her PR, are all telling her to STFU, but her PR also need her to start making them money, and I can'thelp but wonder if under the table divorce discussion from a PR perspective werent happening between her and WME from their early negatiation onward. So they are pressuring her to make a move because she's got nothing wlsrthat'll generate revenue. Amd she hasn't told them that there are hundreds of people waiting to wxpose heras a liar.
All of this is just my conjecture.

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I believe it's safe to say that the 90% of the entire entertainment industry has said that Meghan doesn't have any talent when asked.

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He better be careful what he takes. First of all anyone doing street drugs ought to pause these days due to the fentanyl-lacing and fentanyl related deaths. I've never heard anything about Harry using opiates and he doesn't look like a dopehead. He looks like someone that's high out of their mind on cocaine and he looks like your standard stoner/weed smoker. Did he say he has taken psychodelics? Anyway it doesn't matter dealers are putting fentanyl in everything.

They are also selling fentanyl, and it would be nothing for someone Harry knows to lace his shit with fentanyl themselves, then Kouri Richins their way out of an inconvenient relationship with him... except in Harry's case, it looks like an admitted addict got hold of a dirty drug and accidentally OD'ed, like millions of other people in the US. I'm not and would NEVER suggest anyone Harry knows would ever do that, but... he's not hanging around very trustworthy characters.

I mean just very hypothetically imagine how the grieving widow act would sell... and what one could request from the RF to support Harry's children financially through their minority. No court. Skeletons remain in closet so long as no one is caught, and victim status due to personal tragedy rather than personal insult is a slightly better look than divorcing battered wife. Thanks Goodness the tale of Harry and Meghan is the greatest love story of our time and that those two can trust each other so deeply... right?
 
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Prince Harry did not speak to King Charles to wish him a happy 75th birthday yesterday [Express]
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News of a phone call came as a surprise. Let’s just say that,” the source said. “There might have been a willingness there for the Sussexes to call the King on his birthday, but it certainly wasn’t communicated to the other side in a timely fashion.”

Separate sources went further and said the King was aware Harry was ringing - but he refused to pick up the phone.
"There was no call, every time Harry calls his father, Charles waves the phone away,” they said. “He does not want to hear from him until he apologises."
 
Meghan was literally herded by staff at a red carpet event: (S | A)


I read some comments earlier that I can't find now:
  1. Meghan thought the woman trying to push her along was an enthusiastic fan.
  2. Meghan told the woman "don't touch me" (or something I forget the exact words).
All allegedly of course.

Related: Some unverified but funny-if-true tea: (S | A)
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I love that WME is getting their taste of Markling. Even after all of Meghan's previously failed collabs they still decided to fuck around, probably thinking they were more capable of handling her than her previous associates, and now they're finding out. Get fucked retards.
 
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I still don't get it. She went from being potentially a cornerstone of the royal family to an unremarkable washed up celebrity in a sea filled with them. If I didn't read the DailyMail all the time I would have forget both of them even existed. Even with the Suits revival, it doesn't seem like she can gain any traction. Random zoomer tiktokers have a bigger following than her.
 
I still don't get it. She went from being potentially a cornerstone of the royal family to an unremarkable washed up celebrity in a sea filled with them. If I didn't read the DailyMail all the time I would have forget both of them even existed. Even with the Suits revival, it doesn't seem like she can gain any traction. Random zoomer tiktokers have a bigger following than her.
She was never going to be a cornerstone of anything related to the royal family, other than gossip rags. She was never wanted, did not and never would fit in to the family. She's middle aged, divorced, an actress of all things and black. The only reason harry was allowed to have anything to do with her at all was politics and public relations. The queen was smart enough to know about the hit pieces that would follow with all kinds of racism accusations and such and wanted no part of it. So she was told to keep her mouth shut, act the part and not cause any problems or fuck with the family. She did none of that and went out of her way to not only stir the pot but manipulate harry into doing the same and turning him against the family. Before her involvement with harry she was a literal nobody, another washed up celebrity in a state full of them. After her exile from the royal family with him shes back to being one step above a nobody and is essentially trying to pull a homer simpson in that episode where he bowls a perfect game, gets lauded for it for awhile and then overstays his welcome without realizing it, butting in on all kinds of shows and events before he finally gets taken aside and told to fuck off

When the inevitably divorce happens harry will be quietly brought back into the family and told to stfu about anything related to her and to stay away from her. She'll be back to being a nobody who, after the inevitable divorced related interviews and 'life after the royal family' stuff runs its course, will be ignored and forgotten by the media and the public and given her public and private behavior with harry will be radioactive as fuck to hollywood, because nobody wants to have anything to do with somebody who is liable to start shit, spread rumors and will probably make a point of harassing costars and/or directors if she were ever allowed back into hollywood again over some made up slight. If anything she'll try to make something of herself via exploiting her kid with harry, until the crown has enough of it and has the kid taken by harry using an army of lawyers to head off the inevitable trainwreck that would otherwise lead to

One way or another this was always going to happen. She was everything the royal family wanted nothing to do with and wouldn't have allowed near them with a 20 foot pole if not for modern politics and race shit. In the 80s or even 90s harry would have been told to fuck off and find a more suitable wife by the queen the moment she learned anything about her
 
One way or another this was always going to happen. She was everything the royal family wanted nothing to do with and wouldn't have allowed near them with a 20 foot pole if not for modern politics and race shit. In the 80s or even 90s harry would have been told to fuck off and find a more suitable wife by the queen the moment she learned anything about her
In some ways The Queen and The Firm may have been victims of their own compassion. After 100 years of seeing what happens when Royals are denied True Love (King Edward, Princess Margaret, Charles) they decided to be soft for once. And their worst case fears became true.
 
>not on the guest list
>nothing to promote apart from ~her brand~
>shows up anyway
this behavior is so alien to me
like how can you even bring yourself to go somewhere if you have no reason to be there and the people there don't want you around?
you have to be a gigantic attention whore to do shit like this
 
The irony to me is that I'm sure the Queen didn't care she was black. Her being black was the less problematic thing about Meghan. Elizabeth was a smart woman, I see no reason why she would protest this personally. It's more likely that she didn't like her being an American and an actress on top of it. Her grandson was marrying an American escort, being black was the less of their issues.
 
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Meghan Markle now willing to 'reengage with royal life' to fix Prince Harry's family feud​

Meghan Markle is reportedly willing to "reengage with royal life" in a desperate bid to help her husband Prince Harry diffuse tensions with the Royal Family in the UK
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19:04, 22 Nov 2023 Updated 19:07, 22 Nov 2023

Meghan Markle is said to be willing to "re-engage with royal life" to help Prince Harry fix his royal feud.

The couple ditched their royal duties in 2020 and fled to a life of privacy in Montecito California and have since remerged into the spotlight as working individuals in Hollywood. Since leaving the UK, the pair have created a controversial Netflix docu-series titled Harry and Meghan which explored their relationship and new life with their two kids Archie and Lilibet.

Then in a tell-all book, Harry opened up about his experiences in the Firm and shared a tirade of opinions that fractured his relationship with his brother Prince William and father King Charles. Now, it's been revealed that while Harry is keen for him and his wife to "stand on their own two feet," a reconciliation could work in their favour.

"Meghan and Harry are in panic mode and it's becoming clearer and clearer that their royal currency is dwindling which is having a knock-on effect on their Hollywood careers," a source told Closer.

They said that Harry and Meghan are in "panic mode" as it becomes clearer that "their royal currency is dwindling which is having a knock-on effect on their Hollywood careers". They continued: "They both know full-well that their success rests on their royal connections and being snubbed from Charles birthday celebrations was a huge wake-up call that the Royal Family is no longer prepared to put on a façade in a bid to fund their Hollywood lifestyles."

The insider added that Meghan feels as though the couple are being "slowly phased out" which is "detrimental" to the power their wielding in the US. Meanwhile, Harry reportedly wants the couple to "stand on their own two feet".

They added: "Meghan is now pushing for more of a reconciliation. She says she won't be seen as two-faced but they will need to make an effort to hold on to their connections. It's a difficult balance and it's definitely causing tension."

It comes after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were dealt another major blow as they were left off the invite list for King Charles' 75th birthday celebrations. It's also believed that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex won't be reuniting with the Royal Family for Christmas amid growing tensions.

And this is AFTER Scobie's new book Endgame, and AFTER it's been revealed she's planning her own tellall.

After EVERYTHING this bitch has done, she still has the gall to slink back to the RF and lick Charles's ass in desperation.
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When properly handled, Harry had orphan scamp charisma but left unfiltered he’s a dim spoiled brat. Markle is, of course, an aged actress, which has traditionally been shorthand for whore, for good reason.

It’s so awkward and getting worse all the time as the desperation grows and they keep fumbling every ball that gets tossed at them. They are both getting older, this is just going to get worse and worse for them.

I mean, what can people like this do to correct course? I’m happy to check in once every fiscal quarter to find out! Just on this thread though, so they can’t monetize it.
 
I mean, what can people like this do to correct course? I’m happy to check in once every fiscal quarter to find out! Just on this thread though, so they can’t monetize it.
the real answer would be to retire from public life and use their remaining funds to move to a small and quiet place. they're still wealthy enough to never have to work a day in their lives while living a nice and comfy life.
but of course their massive egos and attention seeking personalities won't allow them to do that so they will continue to debase themselves in increasingly desperate attempts to stay famous and relevant in the public eye.
 
the real answer would be to retire from public life and use their remaining funds to move to a small and quiet place. they're still wealthy enough to never have to work a day in their lives while living a nice and comfy life.
but of course their massive egos and attention seeking personalities won't allow them to do that so they will continue to debase themselves in increasingly desperate attempts to stay famous and relevant in the public eye.
Wasn't Harry originally offered the Governorship of Bermuda if he shut up and fucked off? That seems like a nice early retirement...
Instead he chose public humiliation and mockery.
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