Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[Fluoxetine Man]

You still hate and want to ruin Tara you subhuman scumfucks

Tara isn't gonna fuck you mate.

 

[Life is Hell...]

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Yeah, he's not as well known as any of these other people, but i figured i'd include him just for the hell of it...

 

[Metaverse Knight]

Craig of the Creek is getting a preschool show spinoff:

Spoiler: archive

I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

 

[TVB]

Craig of the Creek is getting a preschool show spinoff:

Spoiler: archive

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I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

Yep, just as expected. I'm glad CN died.

 

[Ambient Occlusion]

Only cool thing about CotC was they featured Deltron 3030 on it for some reason.

 

[TVB]

Only cool thing about CotC was they featured Deltron 3030 on it for some reason.

I'm pissed that they ruined Deltron 3030 for me. He's a great rapper and, even though I'm glad he's getting paid here, he deserves to be in something that's better than this.

 

[Ambient Occlusion]

I'm pissed that they ruined Deltron 3030 for me. He's a great rapper and, even though I'm glad he's getting paid here, he deserves to be in something that's better than this.

I agree I wish his cameo was in something better, but Del is a nerdy dude so I can imagine he was all for being part of a little cartoon network thing. Hell, the only reason he agreed to be part of Gorillaz is because he saw Jamie Hewlett was doing the art and he was a fan of the Tank Girl comics.

 

[Metaverse Knight]

Yep, just as expected. I'm glad CN died.

All these big networks should die really. In fact, I'll go a step forward and say the whole current industry should die. Animators have always been eccentric as it is, but how did we get to a point where so many of them want to teach kids about degeneracy? At least with other industries you can cope that it's just the execs caving to ESG money. Animators though will constantly hop onto xitter and tell you about how much they love gay sex and trannies all the time, then they push the studios to make more shit about how heckin valid trannies are and more political sperging all of the time.

Why are the big networks enabling this? Why has the animation industry cultivated an environment where kids can't just have the funny cartoons anymore? Some turbo-autist can make an Indie game and sell it on Steam, the largest platform, and have a level playing field. Or you can put it on GOG, or Epic, or any other games storefront. Hell even Itch.io or something. Meanwhile indie animation... Well, it exists, but it's so much harder to get off the ground, and there's no chance of getting your shit on the big platforms. There's no place for people to put their work up besides on Youtube. Any other platform people care about is under the control of the "industry" or is some youtube alternative like Vimeo that nobody gives a single shit about. Not to mention how easily you can get blacklisted from any mainstream playing field purely for saying you don't care about trannies.

Where are the cartoons for kids to enjoy? Do parents really need to just stock up on the older shit because there's nothing left for kids to enjoy except for stuff like Bluey? It's no wonder you have manchildren absolutely obsessed with that show when it's one of the few cartoons that isn't shoving the creator's political agendas at you in every single episode.

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Thread tax related to last post (because I can't edit it):
Here's some interview the creators of the Craig of the Creek preschool spinoff did with a news rag.
(Article) (Archive)

Spoiler: transcript of the article

Craig of the Creek has become one of Cartoon Network’s most celebrated shows in recent years with its exciting adventures and sincere dynamics involving Craig (Philip Solomon), Kelsey (Noël Wells) and J.P. (H. Michael Croner).

The Emmy-and-NAACP-nominated series has gone on to inspire its own spin-off: Jessica’s Big Little World, an animated pre-school series following Craig’s (big) little sister Jessica (Lucia Cunningham) as she learns important lessons with the help of her friends, imaginary and real.

CoveredGeekly’s Christopher Gallardo had the chance to talk with Craig of the Creek and Jessica’s Big Little World co-creators Tiffany Ford, Matt Burnett, and Ben Levin as well as Jessica’s voice actress herself, Lucia Cunningham, to check out what’s in store for this fun spin-off.

The Wonders of Childhood
What do you think is the best trait about Jessica and how do you think it can help or inspire others?

I think the best trait about Jessica is the way she sees the world like how you would see doing your bedtime routine, like “Oh it’s something easy, not that big of a deal.” Jessica sees it as such a challenge that she’s gonna get through it and saying, “It’s gonna be the hardest thing ever, but I’m gonna do it and then I’m gonna be so proud of myself after I remember to use the bathroom before I go to bed.”
It’s how she sees the world through a sense of wonder and magic and how every little thing is special to her.
—  LUCIA CUNNINGHAM, “Jessica”

Who are your favorite new characters that get introduced in this show?

Small Uncle (Alani iLongwe), I’d say, is the stuffed toy that Jessica is almost never seen without in Craig of the Creek. But, in Jessica’s Big Little World, we get to see how Jessica sees Small Uncle, which is that he grows a little body, he becomes a little person who talks to her.
He’s such a fun character because Jessica wants to be a big kid and she puts on airs [sic] often of being a little bit older than she is, but Small Uncle is like the preschooler of the show in some ways. He is little and there’s so much that he doesn’t understand and Jessica gets to play the role model and mentor to him.
Writing him is just a silly, fun character that everything you can misinterpret about the world, he does so it’s always fun to write a goofball like that.
—  MATT BURNETT, Co-creator

A Reminiscent Inspiration
How did ‘Jessica’s Big Little World’ come about from ‘Craig of the Creek’ and how was the developmental experience working on this show?

We were three seasons into Craig [of the Creek] when [Cartoon Network] approached us about expanding what we were doing and proposed this idea of a spin-off for Jessica, who was a character that we already loved and had made sure to give attention to on Craig thanks to Tiffany [Ford].
Tiffany, in the early days, defined the character of Jessica for us so she naturally was someone we pulled on board to help us develop this spin-off. Pivoting to pre-school [audiences] was a chance for us to reach a new audience of kids and it was certainly a change from Craig, but we really balanced ourselves to keep the same sensibility, tone, and sense of fun and energy and relatability in Jessica, but also figuring a way to put all that into stories that a younger audience can follow and relate to.
—  MATT BURNETT, Co-creator

The very first episode that Tiffany [Ford] storyboarded was “Jessica Goes to the Creek” was about Jessica and she created a very fleshed out character that felt real, there can really be a lot of one-dimensional sibling characters in TV. [Jessica] felt very nuanced and what Lucia [Cunningham] brought to the voice-acting was such an extra level; she brought a lot of herself to it.
Over those three seasons, a really interesting character was created so the tricky part of developing it for pre-school, which we really wanted to do, was just keeping that energy and keeping that fun that they’ve both built.
—  BEN LEVIN, Co-creator

Was there any specific trait that you’ve related to with Jessica in both these shows?

About Jessica on her own, in the original show, we all agreed that something special about her was that she has a very specific grit.
She sticks to things, she’s very thorough, and it was always a point of ours that she wasn’t a kid genius. She is somebody that listens and remembers and somebody that is pretending that she’s in this amazing aspirational place, but the reality is that she is little and doesn’t actually always know what she’s talking about but she would like to know.
Developing the Jessica show for a pre-school audience, we leaned into that aspect of her: that she is aspirational, that she has this idea of who she would like to be and this is the journey of how she slowly gets to that. That is the hook of our show: that it’s slow. Her accomplishments are not great: she remembers to potty, she remembers to brush her teeth.
All her accomplishments are micro, but they’re huge to her. She sticks to this and this is something that I think a lot of people can relate to. She’s very driven in accomplishing regular things [laughs].
—  TIFFANY FORD, Showrunner/Co-creator

Was there anyone or anything that helped inspire ‘Jessica’s Big Little World’ and what made Jessica a character you wanted to explore?

I think that, in the first inception Matt [Burnett] was pointing to: Jessica was already a character on Craig [of the Creek]. So, this precocious child was already in the DNA of the character, but the inspiration to grow that came from so many of us sharing stories about how we all got into these weird situations as little kids.
So many people mentioned their sisters, their nieces, their cousins, themselves saying these outrageously mature things [at 4-years old] and these stories collectively fueled into who Jessica is. The common denominator that I found in all of these stories was that these kids were saying these things, but not necessarily knowing what they were talking about and making wild assumptions at the end of this huge statement they’d made.
—  TIFFANY FORD, Showrunner/Co-creator

The Importance of Family and Friendship
The show contains so many heartfelt messages that kids are going to learn in this show: what’s one lesson from this show that’s had an impact on you?

For me, an unexpected impact that this show has had on me is that I feel that I hope to be a lot kinder after working on this and listening to what other folks have said while creating and writing the show.
Also, the impact of what we say, little ones, anybody, hears it and listens to it and it made me think about the person that I also wanted to be and that I wasn’t done growing and changing and the show really inspired me to think about how to be kinder to myself and others.
—  TIFFANY FORD, Showrunner/Co-creator

With all the positive reaction behind ‘Craig of the Creek’, what do you think is the most important element of the show that most fans resonate with?

I think that any fans of the show who want more or have a younger sibling, you’re gonna get the same kid energy and outlook that Craig of the Creek has. That where we tried to make the little things feel big and the excitement you have as a kid to feel just over the moon.
We tried to bring that because [Craig] has a lot of the same fun. Generally, on both shows, we just tried to write stories that we liked watching and we did the same thing with Jessica. It’s for preschoolers, but it’s also stuff that we like watching.
—  BEN LEVIN, Co-creator

You get to see more of the family dynamic in Jessica cause Craig is off in the creek. Even though we get to see the family sometimes, he’s usually out there in the woods, but in Jessica, we’re getting to see what happens in the house when Craig’s not there and even when he’s there.
The Williams family, they’ve got such a fun dynamic between the five of them and the extended family too, it was just fun to tell more stories about the family.
—  MATT BURNETT, Co-creator

 

[Life is Hell...]

Craig of the Creek is getting a preschool show spinoff:

Spoiler: archive

View attachment 5376424

I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

They actually released a Sneak Peek of it which i managed to snag.

Spoiler: Mega Link

https://mega.nz/file/muIDwCaJ#T7m1UMyYmmeRvatIYG05Jyg4ibL7HD_BpdbtC_D1kpY

And overall, it's basically the same mediocre preschool fair, but you know they'll put in some malicious shit later on.

Edit: Ironically it's CN's birthday today as well.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Craig of the Creek is getting a preschool show spinoff:

Spoiler: archive

View attachment 5376424

I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

Will this show also have a farting episode, like how Total DramaRama had the infamous fart fairy episode?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Animators have always been eccentric as it is, but how did we get to a point where so many of them want to teach kids about degeneracy?

Because they just want to make shows that have canonical fappable material in them. That's it. They got pissed at other creators "denying" them gay shit or whatever the fuck in their ship wars, and they vowed to make a show that they wanted all along, lying to themselves that they would've totally wanted it as a "closeted queer kid". But instead of making an adult cartoon now that it's much more widely accepted, they want to play things "safe" by sticking to children's cartoons but will not compromise their gay shit foundation. They also grew up on (mainstream) anime, but the art colleges they went to openly despise anime, and so they try to get around that by drawing in the stupid bean mouth safe style but then copy literal scenes/frames from their favorite animu (usually the ones that have gay followings despite the shows themselves not actually being pro-gay). They all do this, it's extremely distracting and irritating as a big anime fan who recognizes it, and I'm sick of this shit. (I'll link to a recent short cartoon from someone literally trying to pitch it as a series that ripped scenes/frames from at least five popular anime and video games and it was making me angry. PurpleEyesWTF couldn't save it for me.)

And also they're all childless, joyless hacks who actually hate children. These shows were never about entertaining your kids, it's about proselytizing their hatred towards their parents for making them go to church as kids.

 

[Purple Threat]

They also grew up on (mainstream) anime, but the art colleges they went to openly despise anime, and so they try to get around that by drawing in the stupid bean mouth safe style but then copy literal scenes/frames from their favorite animu

When I was younger I thought about learning to draw and a common trend I saw between videos/blogs about art classes hating anime and how to cope with your mean professor being a nippon hater.

I always wondered why anime was hated so much but I genuinely see why now. I see it everywhere now and it's almost always eye-rolling and self-fellating.

The worst offender imo is OK-KO, a series I wanted to like as a cartoon sperg, but nearly every episode has an obvious cartoon/anime reference and has the audacity to go "gee I wonder what THIS could possibly be *wink wink*".

It really feels like a lot of the recent industry people are just fans and ass-kissers and not actually creatives.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It really feels like a lot of the recent industry people are just fans and ass-kissers and not actually creatives.

Sounds about right. I don't know why it is creators don't actually want to be creative and have to use shortcuts/references for everything. It could be because TV Tropes ruined an entire generation, but it could just be this generation just doesn't want to put in the effort to prove their superiors wrong. It could be they never realized you can make something original and still show your love for anime like how Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartovsky, and Ciro Nieli did. Even the folks behind Avatar knew how to do it, but no one in the industry sees nuance anymore. Everything's just surface level to them that it makes me wonder how they actually graduated from these colleges and if they had actually learned anything substantial.

 

[KingLiberty76]

I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

I think it should be worth mentioning of all the people in America, black people are probably the least accepting of gay people and troons

 

[TVB]

I think it should be worth mentioning of all the people in America, black people are probably the least accepting of gay people and troons

And don't forget that the majority commit more crime

 

[Niggerphobe]

Craig of the Creek is getting a preschool show spinoff:

Spoiler: archive

View attachment 5376424

I've seen CotC mentioned in the thread a few times, and it's always troonshit, so I gotta wonder how long until they have an episode where the preschoolers learn about how heckin valid transgenders are.

Fun fact one of the main characters has a kill count on birds

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

Animators have always been eccentric as it is, but how did we get to a point where so many of them want to teach kids about degeneracy? At least with other industries you can cope that it's just the execs caving to ESG money. Animators though will constantly hop onto xitter and tell you about how much they love gay sex and trannies all the time, then they push the studios to make more shit about how heckin valid trannies are and more political sperging all of the time.

None of these people are fit to create anything. Nepotism-tribalism are the obvious culprits, all made worse by soulless executives whose only aspirations in life are climbing a corporate ladder & whose metrics for success are directly tied to quarterly earnings. But in addition to that common phenomenon you also have people who get so wrapped up in ancillary stuff that they lose sight of why children's media ever existed. I'm talking about people whose interests in cartoons coincide with social media slapfights, Matpat theory videos, wildly inappropriate fantasies of fanart, shipping, etc. to the point where guys like Roald Dahl or Maurice Sendak would never get hired in the current environment. Manchildren who don't read anything, have nothing to impart, have not lived interesting lives & don't even have kids themselves should not make media aimed at children. My butthurt on this specific topic is immeasurable.

 

[NotFatChild]

They actually released a Sneak Peek of it which i managed to snag.

Spoiler: Mega Link

https://mega.nz/file/muIDwCaJ#T7m1UMyYmmeRvatIYG05Jyg4ibL7HD_BpdbtC_D1kpY

And overall, it's basically the same mediocre preschool fair, but you know they'll put in some malicious shit later on.

Edit: Ironically it's CN's birthday today as well.
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lmao all those images of shows that I watched when I was a kid two decades ago.

even they know their new stuff is dogshit.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Fun fact one of the main characters has a kill count on birds

good riddance fuck birds

 

[Johnny Eastwood cash]

I wonder how many cartoons nowadays suffer from millennial writing