2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

EDIT: The Israeli defense minister has stated that Israel intends to topple the Hamas government in the strip. The only way this is is happening is a full scale ground invasion and re-occupation. I would not be surprised to see if voices on the right call for reestablishment of some of the settlements dismantled in 2005, and while I don't think that will happen, the chance is not entirely negligible.
Thanks for the input, chief Rabbi, you truly are our greatest ally!

Joking aside, a war in Gaza will be urban warfare hell and that place will take weeks, if not months to clear out, especially now they have hostages inside.
 
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Hamas knows that they likely cant win a full on war against israel so they gotta make sure israel cant just raze Gaza to the ground.
Likely they will offer up the hostages for various benefits over time.
I don't think Israel is going to play the hostages game this time

If the Pallys mistreat or murder the hostages it will just be used to increase the current universal Israeli hateboner, keep support for Total Gaza Death strong
 
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Wasn’t the WW2 invasion of Poland started under a similar pretence of an attack?

All in all, guess that’s what happens when you decide the best course of action for creating a new nation is by chance choosing a place on earth that is of incredible religious significance and then ethnically cleansing it. Should’ve stayed in Madagascar or literally anywhere else on the planet instead and none of this would’ve been an issue. Hell, would’ve made more sense to cleanse half of Germany than invading Palestine, back when Israel was founded.
>Get your own people killed
>Send more of your own people to die to kill the enemy
>Somehow win

Man this competency Crisis is affecting even Mossad
 
Thinks are going to get pretty bad, which means Europe will have another migrant crisis ongoing
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The Taliban is really confident after kicking out the Burguers out of Afghanistan. Let's see how they do on a conventional warfare and against a non-clowm military
Thats peak clown world. But the Taliban are anti Iran. So it’d make strategic sense for them to be supported by Israel/Saudis against Iran
also, if you take this ~stolen land~ meme to its logical conclusion, you go down the history rabbit hole and it looks something like this
>jews were given the land by brits
>brits took the land from turks
>turks took the land from muslim caliphates
>muslim caliphates took the land from christian byzantines
>christian byzantines were previously pagan romans
>pagan romans took the land from ancient israelites
and the closest thing to ancient israelites that exists today is.... jews. so at the end of the day, you still end up with the conclusion that it is jewish territory.
The Middle East has always been a cluster. Before the Jews were other semites.
 
I can't imagine this will end well for Palestinians. Israel doesn't fuck around and has really good military, intelligence and special ops
Rate me optimistic, but maybe Israel will realize they wouldn't have to be dealing with any of this bullshit if they'd actually commit the genocide they're always being accused of.
 
I can't imagine this will end well for Palestinians. Israel doesn't fuck around and has really good military, intelligence and special ops
Israel has a demographics problem where the largest population growth is among the conservative religious that refuses to pay taxes, demands massive subsidies, and do not serve in the military.
 
I don't know how accurate it is, but israel aligned twitter accounts are claiming that the taliban is stepping up:

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Good thing they don't have any weapons... wait...


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Approximately $7 billion of military equipment the US transferred to the Afghan government over the course of 16 years was left behind in Afghanistan after the US completed its withdrawal from the country in August, according to a congressionally mandated report from the US Department of Defense viewed by CNN.

This equipment is now in a country that is controlled by the very enemy the US was trying to drive out over the past two decades: the Taliban. The Defense Department has no plans to return to Afghanistan to “retrieve or destroy” the equipment, reads the report, which has been provided to Congress.

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Aircraft worth $923.3 million remained in Afghanistan. The US left 78 aircraft procured for the government of Afghanistan at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul before the end of the withdrawal. These aircraft were demilitarized and rendered inoperable before the US military left, the report states. The US military conducted its non-combatant evacuation from Afghanistan in August, primarily through that airport.

A total of 9,524 air-to-ground munitions, valued at $6.54 million, remained in Afghanistan at the conclusion of the US military withdrawal. The “significant majority” of the “remaining aircraft munitions stock are non-precision munitions,” the report states.

Over 40,000 of the total 96,000 military vehicles the US gave to Afghan forces remained in Afghanistan at the time of the US withdrawal, including 12,000 military Humvees, the report states. “The operational condition of the remaining vehicles” in Afghanistan is “unknown,” the report states.

More than 300,000 of the total 427,300 weapons the US gave to Afghan forces remained in Afghanistan at the time of the US military withdrawal, according to the report. Less than 1,537,000 of the “specialty munitions” and “common small arms ammunition,” valued at a total of $48 million, are still in the country, the report states.


“Nearly all” of the communications equipment that the US gave to Afghan forces, including base-station, mobile, man-portable and hand-held commercial and military radio systems, and associated transmitters and encryption devices also remained in Afghanistan at the time of the withdrawal, the report states.

“Nearly all” night vision, surveillance, “biometric and positioning equipment” totaling nearly 42,000 pieces of specialized equipment remained in the country, the report adds.

And “nearly all,” of the explosive ordinance disposal and demining equipment, including 17,500 “pieces of explosive detection, electronic countermeasure, disposal and personal protective equipment” also remained in Afghanistan, according to the report.
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