2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Same people that cheer on Russia in Ukraine are wondering why India isn't supporting Palestine. Hm, maybe muslims shouldn't have destroyed hindu temples and idols. Maybe they shouldn't have started a holy war into India

Has a single actual human being made this statement or is this something you've just concocted out of whole cloth to have an excuse to sperg out about da Ukraine

 

[mindlessobserver]

Per CNN and Al Jazeera, the Israeli Knesset has just ratified the cabinets War Declaration. They are gonna hold a Pro Forma vote tomorrow.

 

[DumbDude43]

but I cannot for the life of me understand why there is such a huge defense for from the identity politics side for savages that would never adapt to their gay space communism utopia.

because they are anti white
that's it, everything else is just beating around the bush

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

IDF hasnt reclaimed borderlands, terrorists are still in Israel and additional infiltrations are likely. IDF is having trouble resetting and moving forward.

https://twitter.com/shailevy6/status/1711027379571695810

"The evictions in the Eshkol council were stopped. Many terrorists are still on the ground. Probably more intrusions as well. Heavy smoke rises from one of the kibbutzim nearby. Tough reports from there. The IDF is struggling to recover and reset."

 

[Givi]

People also act like there is no way this could not have been planned without extensive knowledge of everyone involved, but from what I have seen the goal of the invasion wasn't outright victory, or taking and holding territory. It was to just zerg rush across and cause as much mayhem as possible. In that scenario there does not need to be extensive command and control. A dozen senior commanders would have been enough to plan it all out, and then when the Balloon went up they just phoned all their subordinates and told them to grab all the local Haaji's off the street, point them towards Israel and Durka Jihad mother fucker.

Air assaults, rocket strikes, motorbike incursions, assaults on enemy bases, hundreds of infantrymen, light trucks and infiltration squads behind front lines? Yeah, that sure sounds easy to coordinate, especially when you're coordinating notoriously retarded people filled with religious fervor and who tend to be as loyal to their immediate superiors as they are to whatever organization they belong to in the first place.

People always underestimate the coordination needed in war but this is just lol. To source the equipment needed for what was done in general you'd need probably more than a few dozen people to know something was going to happen. You don't make 10,000 rockets by hand without anybody catching wind of it.

 

[Garm]

so where did hamas get all these guns and ammunition?

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Remember when people were saying "in 10 years we'll have an Al Queda or ISIS situation except with Nazi's"?
Seems like that that time table has been sped up significantly.
Oh well. World War 3! World War 3! World War 3!

 

[2ndBest]

I kinda expected more destruction of Gaza when I woke up this morning. Is Israel softening the blow or are they just waiting for an opportune time?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Air assaults, rocket strikes, motorbike incursions, assaults on enemy bases, hundreds of infantrymen, light trucks and infiltration squads behind front lines? Yeah, that sure sounds easy to coordinate, especially when you're coordinating notoriously retarded people filled with religious fervor and who tend to be as loyal to their immediate superiors as they are to whatever organization they belong to in the first place.

People always underestimate the coordination needed in war but this is just lol. To source the equipment needed for what was done in general you'd need probably more than a few dozen people to know something was going to happen. You don't make 10,000 rockets by hand without anybody catching wind of it.

I didn't say it was easy. I said it would not have required everyone to know what was going to go down.

I kinda expected more destruction of Gaza when I woke up this morning. Is Israel softening the blow or are they just waiting for an opportune time?

I think they got caught with their pants down and are going to be scrambling for the next few days.

 

[ShitLurker]

Its highly doubtful Mossad would have ever just "let" something like this happen for "reasons". Heads are going to roll at Mossad and the IDF once its all over.

I mean, Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen for very specific reasons, so I wouldn't put it past them, but once I understood how much damage was actually done I understood it didn't make a sense as the angle, you let a tragedy happen with the intent of using it as political capital to do something you want and you intend that the tragedy, though emotionally charged, it's not really that painful in a way that actually hurts you as a whole. But the damage is huge, god knows how long getting those crops back will take even assuming they can be regrown and if they just wanted an excuse to have carte blanche to destroy sand niggers, seems like at a minimum it "got out of hand".

So yeah, heads will roll and I expect them to roll for real, not just some guys getting sacked for this.

 

[Givi]

I didn't say it was easy. I said it would not have required everyone to know what was going to go down.

In that scenario there does not need to be extensive command and control

That's what you said, and you're wrong. It's impossible to coordinate something like this without extensive command and control and without tons and tons of people knowing something is going to happen on the 7th of October, or, at the very least, within a certain timeframe.

 

[ShitLurker]

I kinda expected more destruction of Gaza when I woke up this morning. Is Israel softening the blow or are they just waiting for an opportune time?

I honestly think we haven't even heard the sound of the thunder that will come from this. I mean, would this be the first time a nation with a 21st century military force goes full "fuck the optics, I'm going in hard"? A situation where the intent isn't to generate an eternal conflict but to purge an enemy from the land?

 

[mindlessobserver]

That's what you said, and you're wrong. It's impossible to coordinate something like this without extensive command and control and without tons and tons of people knowing something is going to happen on the 7th of October.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses Cell structure. The entire point of their military set up is that they don't have ANY "Command and Control" as you would understand it. Not everyone fights wars like the Russians.

 

[Mr Bunny]

You don't make 10,000 rockets by hand without anybody catching wind of it.

Or train people to use motorized paragliders without someone noticing.

 

[Givi]

Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses Cell structure. The entire point of their military set up is that they DON'T have ANY "Command and Control" as you would understand it. Not everyone fights wars like the Russians.

You do realize that a cell structure doesn't mean everybody does whatever the fuck whenever they want, right? The entire point is that individual cells can take orders and prepare for events and coordinate with everybody else in these cases. If there hadn't been extensive coordination then they would have fucked up in 100 different ways, which they didn't, so there was extensive coordination and for extensive coordination, you need extensive control by commanders, local or otherwise. Hamas weren't relying on dumb luck for everything to line up correctly and allow them to embarrass a professional army.

 

[GPRIMACADO]

gonna be real hard to ever politically support palestine for Americans now

You mean boomericans. The fact remains, Israel has done a LOT of bs to Palestinians. This is their resolve, remember they see them as Infidels not even humans. They will continue to crush their enemies, see them driven and hear the lamentations of their women.

And honestly it isn't our battle. Let the goat fuckers and the neo-global kid traffickers bomb each other.

 

[wintertide12]

I've been seeing people like Mia Khalifa honestly defending the Palestinians going around being assholes, so I'm not sure this would really change much about people's attitudes about Israel. There's a lot of people that think if you're 'oppressed' then you can engage in any act of brutality you feel like and still be the victim. There's also a lot of those pro-Russia accounts like Syrian girl talking of how the Palestinians dindu nuffin and they be good boys.

Mia Khalifa is a braindead whore. There's a reason she stays in the West. Anyone who's Palestinian or Muslim shouldn't be taken seriously because they will turn a blind eye to Hamas because it benefits them.

Most people, regardless of political stance, can look at Hamas dragging raped & murdered women through the streets as objectively wrong. I highly doubt the average person would support Hamas if they saw what they're doing right now, which many are.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Lol the Israelis should have ethnically cleansed the Palestinians in 67 and 73. Now they have to deal with this shit.

Welp, hopefully the "world's biggest open air prison" enjoys being fucking smashed.

Honestly one more attack like this that targets civilians and Innocents and even many Arab nations are going to look the other way once the isralies actually start ethnically cleansing the strip.

2023 really is the Year of the Happenings, isn't it? Gonna be a bloody retaliation, either way.

Honestly the only words I'm thinking come to mind and I'm not even a Jew but feeling for them is ethnic cleansing.

How exactly do you declare war on an entity you refuse to recognize as a country?


Israel loves their false flags, but if they were going to do that it probably would have been a bus full of American evangelical tourists visiting Jerusalem. Letting a bunch of Israelis die would probably be a bridge too far even for Mossad.

Nah this has all the hallmarks of Hamas, this is basically let's give every psycho a gun and tell em kill Jews simple as.

How the fuck did Israel get caught like this. I thought they were some of the best intelligence services around.
Americans get your wallets ready to help them through these hard times.

Hamas probably had been planning this type of event for awhile. But Israel can't stop the flotillas coming into Gaza under the guise of humanitarian aid. Second Irans leadership hates Israel and it's allies mainly because of Palestinian refugees in Iran who finance and own the government. Hamas has said they will accept no peace deal. Israel normalized relations with it's neighbors and the crazies got pushed into isis which got annihilated or is in Europe as "refugees" if anything the Iranian revolutionary gaurd, has been financing this.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Or train people to use motorized paragliders without someone noticing.

The issue is each one of these things is a single data point, and not part of the overall picture. We can see the entire picture now, with the power of Hindsight, but before this happened it would have just been a line item on an intelligence sheet "Hamas is building rockets", which would mean its a day ending in Y. Then on a Completely DIFFERENT sheet, another line would say "Hamas is training Paragliders", which while interesting, is more funny then threatening. Without the benefit of hindsight.

You need to put yourself in the frame of mind where this was 48 hours ago and everything you've just seen has not happened yet. Its not as easy to put together "Hamas building rockets" and "Hamas training Paragliders", and then make an assessment that Hamas is going to launch the biggest surprise invasion of Israel since the Yom Kippur War.

 

[Puff]

I kinda expected more destruction of Gaza when I woke up this morning. Is Israel softening the blow or are they just waiting for an opportune time?

I think they're preparing for a big coordinated attack. Maybe to coincide with the parliament vote on the official declaration of war tomorrow. Maybe a few hours earlier as a surprise attack. There's been targeted bombing and shelling on what have to be individual targets, so they're moving.

 

[Foltest]

Reminder, Less then 48 hours have gone by.
Next week, we will see Israel response in force.
I am hoping for cluster and naplam.