2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Jump said:
That's the image they like to project.
But I think like the western intel agencies they have leaned to heavily on electronic intercepts and let the more costly human "in the field" operations slack.
If Hamas stays off the internet and radio for comms and doesn't carry cellphones then they are basically invisible in the modern world when operating in friendly communities.
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I disagree for the sole reason that this is exactly what they want. They get a free hand, without any fear of Western sanction or criticism, to completely destroy Gaza and probably everything Palestinian so they can complete their ethnostate. It also manages to completely take out the legs of anyone who criticizes them in the West. Oh, you don't like Israel and their genocidal occupation of Palestine? What about those poor ravegoers and kids and women that they raped and murdered when they attacked? It plays right into their hands.

Plus they're Jews. Why underestimate them like that?
 
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King George III said:
Israeli UN representative outright said that this is "Israel's 9/11" and "the era of reasoning with these savages is over".
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This may honestly be a watershed moment. This is the biggest attack Israel has seen in decades. A huge number of its people are now seeing the Islamic terrorism of their fathers and grandfathers laid out before them for the first time.

Any sort of actual restraint will be a small miracle. Huge numbers of their citizens are dropping the coexist kumbaya mantra and are advocating for full blown genocide in Gaza as retaliation. It's a pretty big change in just 24 hours.

Nevermind that the state of Israel has been going through a lot of inner turmoil with its judicial and executive branches the last few years. A major tactical response is basically mana from heaven to the local politicians to get heat off their asses.

If the reports of surronding countries mobalizing are true, this could pop off to be one of the biggest happenings in a generation.
 
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DumbDude43 said:
if the arab states are left with the impression that the jew army isn't a big deal and the burger army won't respond quickly either, then they WILL start gearing up towards aggressive anti israel policy, potentially leading to a renewed military coalition that tries invading israel like they did in the 6 day war and yom kippur.
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I doubt that. The geo political situation is completely different. For one Saudi Arabia and Iran really hate each other and are currently involved in a proxy war. Jordan and Egypt on the other hand have thrown their lot in with the West and Egypt right now didn't even pretend to give a fuck about the bombing of gaza and was just like "hamas pick up phone maybe make deal". This could change if the current military dictatorship is overthrown and the muslim brotherhood returns, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

So that leaves a broken Syria, Palestine and Iran. Not really that scary of a conventional threat but enough for a longer headache.
 
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IKOL said:
Ngl this is laughable. Do they expect to fight like this agains the geared up muzzies? Come on retards, you should know better...
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They won't be fighting the geared up ones. You know that as well as I do. Shit is going to be nasty.

As far as the Israeli hostages Hamas took - most of them will be dead within the next couple days from mistreatment, revenge against the bombings, maybe the odd escape attempt. I expect the IDF to act like that is the case.
 
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Videos I got from Snapchat via the snapmap. Location is in the top left
(Rate me late, but I tried to upload these last night and couldn't.)
 
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Honestly the US deploying the 6th fleet to the eastern med is the best of bad options right now. The last thing needed right now is for Hezbollah or other State Actors to assume now is a good time for another Jihad. Israel is out for blood right now and this could very easily spiral into a regional war nobody in said region actually wants.
 
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Hamas spokesperson Abu Ubaidah shrugs off the deployment of a US aircraft carrier near Israel, warning the American administration to weigh the ramifications.

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Much of Israel's policy towards the Palestinians is a foretaste of what the elites want for the entire world: gigantic ghettos riddled with checkpoints. The very nature of the modern Jewish religion doesn't allow for much of an outreach like missions do for Christians, and they routinely allow some pretty heinous shit to be committed by their own army and settlers. They're not bound by a single shred of Christian ethics, and the only thing they manage to do is to encourage mutual ethnic hatred to boil up and occasionally boil over.

However...

Muslim rule is a problem, Muslims should be opposed, but Christianity is the best way to do it if only we could purge our own satanic elites out in order to get the job done. Ain't no amount of central banks or meaningless corporate crony-captured democracies or food franchises or tenured atheist professors or whatever artificial replacement for common sense and decent living is going to win over it. Now we're stuck with watching cowardly terrorist bitch soldiers killing civilians which will only ensure the slaughter of their own people. The timing is so on the nose in terms of what the US can do about it, that I wouldn't be surprised if this was orchestrated from elites on both sides.

I don't think there's anyway to keep Israel the way it is without a gigantic population exchange like they did with the Greeks out of Turkey 100 years ago. Sucks and now we're almost certainly going to get even more entangled than we already are. You thought Ukraine was too expensive and messy? Ain't seen nothin yet!

Yeah I'm mad at the world right now. I'm not a Jew or a Muzzie. To me the only heroes in this are going to be those who can save each other on the ground. If you can move get the hell out of there. Fuck any soldier on any side who thinks killing civvies is proper justice. But I know that's coming in spades. Damn.
 
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https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710980029977424295?s=20

A compilation of Hamas clips shows how the terror group invaded southern Israel yesterday. First they bombed Israeli observation towers and weapons systems on the border, then fired hundreds of rockets as terrorists on paragliders flew over the border. Moments later, Hamas approached the border fence, blew up holes in it, and allowed hundreds of terrorists to infiltrate into Israel.
 
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Rei is Shit. said:
Get the Israelis to overreact and make a hasty assault on Gaza.
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They are launching a big attack to trick the Israelis into a ground operation. Previously when the Israelis were mad they just leveled an apartment building and killed hundreds of people (mostly civilians). This time they’re going to go ethnic purge the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. I would guess Hamas as an extensive tunnel network and accumulated tons of ammunition and weapons.

They will booby trap the area and ambush the Israelis who will either kill massive numbers of civilians (which will cause international condemnation and possibility intervention) or lose tons of soldiers by exercising restraint. When they say this is Israel’s 9/11, I feel like that really means it’s a false flag or a provocation they setup for an excuse to ethnic cleanse the Gaza Strip and other Palestinian Territories. The settlers need more land to steal, and the current government has a ton of settlers political parties in it.
 
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SBG said:
I'm sorry but I'm kinda retarded so I have to ask, what is it you're disagreeing about?

I mostly feel like it's notable that a bunch of people are treating a bunch of kidnappings and rapes as only natural because they view Israelis as the oppressors or evil Jews. It seems like there's just an issue of a ton of people being too obnoxious to step back a moment and say "hey maybe this woman being raped makes the rapists the bad guys here".

People are often too obstinate to put away their personal politics and look at the situation like a sane person so I figure not much will really change in the grand scheme of things about the general perception of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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I'm disagreeing on the part where the PR situation remains unchanged. For decades, the West had kept Israel from going full Holocaust for human rights reasons, which is why a lot of normies held to the two-state solution. But now, the West is becoming noticeably weaker and feckless, so Israel is not as beholden to them as they used to be. Also, Israel can see that the US's favorite state is now Ukraine, not them, so they have to reevaluate the US's favor.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710980029977424295?s=20

A compilation of Hamas clips shows how the terror group invaded southern Israel yesterday. First they bombed Israeli observation towers and weapons systems on the border, then fired hundreds of rockets as terrorists on paragliders flew over the border. Moments later, Hamas approached the border fence, blew up holes in it, and allowed hundreds of terrorists to infiltrate into Israel.
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