2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

This entire cosmology of thought trickles down to EVERYTHING Muslim countries and organizations do.
Every other Muslim entity in the region has played with a certain degree of cynical politics, brinksmanship, and realpolitik in order to extract leverage from various players in the region. Even Iran, notoriously antagonistic on the global stage, has obeyed a certain patient rationale in trying to shit everything up. Even here, while Iran and the QUDs are involved, the state has a certain gray-zone deniability which means it'll probably just be slapped with more sanctions atop a pile it already largely ignores.

Palestine, uniquely, seems to throw shit around and expect someone else to swoop in and protect them from blowback. Even Pakistan doesn't get to this level of a death wish.
They expect Israel to blink, like they have in the past.
I think given Bibi's position being in such peril (corruption allegations, protests against measures intended to alter the court / codify a constitution, and a general embarrassment that this happened under his watch and must have taken months to coordinate), there's no chance in hell the state blinks. Gaza is really fucking small, which matters even more when you consider how easy it is to apply drone warfare over such a small region whose electricity you can pretty easily knock out.
In the process Israel might be so weak that other forces may get involved smelling blood.
This is the only line that I can really imagine they believe, even if I think it suggests they're complete idiots. They have to believe that they're going to inspire some big uprising to take them down - ignoring that Israel has a military so far ahead of their shit, with patrons whose pockets are endlessly deeper.
National suicide is not impossible look at the Japanese preparations for Allied invasion during WW2.
The Japanese military was the product of a culture that had been exposed to propaganda essentially from birth, with absurdly strict and rigid military structures that were baked into everyday life at effectively every level. It married zealotism and patriotism effectively enough to create the never-surrender death squads.

Hamas, and Hezbollah, and the PLO, and all these things - while they espouse faith as a justification, they way they're run is just so much more incompetent and corrupt and like a mob. The Japanese military had a tight ship, but most of everything that winds up in Palestine gets stolen and embezzled. They've had issues with basic utilities for decades at this point, which (beyond getting hit with stray return-fire) haven't really had to do with Israeli interference. Hamas homies just genuinely blow that cash on retarded shit.
 
Airstrike on a Hamas position in Gaza City:
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Cartoon published 10/08/2023

“God willing, the cancer of the usurper Zionist regime will be eradicated at the hands of the Palestinian people and the Resistance forces throughout the region,”

— Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

This is what Israel must deal with—a country run by medieval religious zealots who want them wiped off the face of the Earth. Thanks to bonehead Democrats and traitors such as Biden and Obama, the possibility of war with Iran has increased.

Update: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered a call-up of reservists and said “we are at war.”

The Iranian-backed Hamas conducted a surprise attack with sophisticated equipment. Biden and Obama made sure Iran was paid billions of dollars, which most likely was spent on weapons of war. First Obama paid ransom to the tune of $400 million to Iran, then he illegally sent another $1.7 billion in cash to the Mullahs running the show there—and he faced no consequences for his actions. (Democrats can do as they please). Now Biden wants to send even more money to Iran. They will use that to help fund proxy wars using their terrorist surrogates such as Hezbollah and Hamas. Perhaps the Biden administration wants to appease Iran and keep them from developing nuclear weapons.

The attack helped Iran in another way: The mullahs wanted to stop the ‘Abraham Accords Declaration,” which would help normalize relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel. It appears that deal is off for now.


The attack on Israel is nothing new. The Palestinians train their children to hate Israel. They practice killing Jews in their classrooms. The cycle of hate does not get broken, so the terrorist attacks continue decade after decade. The Hamas ‘soldiers’ demonstrated the ingrained hatred by kidnapping Israeli women and children. They are probably being tortured as I write this. Iran commended the brutality. Their state media claimed the Palestinian people are acting in self defense.

This is a problem that won’t be solved any time soon. Various factions have been fighting over that land since history has been recorded. The fighting will go on no matter what. It’s unlikely that Israel will totally obliterate the Palestinians. The leftist media will angrily denounce Israel’s counterattack because children and civilians will be killed. Israel must play by rules, whereas Hamas are free to be as brutal and inhuman as they please. (They regularly uses children as human shields). Politicians throughout the western world will urge Israel to cool it—and they will.

Then the attacks will begin all over again.

— Ben Garrison
 
Let's say the Jews are these deplorable human beings my dude why is it that the average palastinian will literally go on video killing innocent women and children and post titles like we're the heros here waging a jihad.
I see another connection here with the Ukraine war. In Ukraine the combatants, particularly Ukrainians, have been celebrating the horrors of war, posting around lots of pics of mangled enemy troops on forums and in groups like NAFO. Now Hamas is doing the same and we'll see if Israeli forces can hold back from doing it (they've already released that corpse pissing video).

Part of it could be because the Internet is eroding the boundaries between external and internal messaging - in the old days, soldiers might swap photos of mangled enemies with their buddies who had been fighting the same people. Recall the photo ops with corpses from Full Metal Jacket. But now the private is more public than ever. And it's been pointed out many times how social media contributes to black-and-white thinking and a lack of empathy.

It seems like very much a new thing. I can't think of any conflicts before these recent ones where there was high-profile celebration of the most gruesome aspects of war. Most governments fighting wars, even the most brutal ones,normally try to downplay that and say they're acting for the greater good. Even the Taliban had an on-point PR initiative when they took over Afghanistan. It makes me wonder if we're seeing a general moral collapse across many different societies.
 
The most simple answer is often the correct one - It was legit a bunch of retards thinking it was all Israel kids and did an oopsy-whoopsy.

Hamas pulled of the most sophisticated broad daylight raids in paragliders against probably one of the most well protected borders in the world.

Or the build up before the anniversary was allowed to happen.

This isn't simply me talking. I'm not arrogant to say I know all the details, but several former IDF people on social media are saying all of this is way too suspicious as well.
 
Somalians are the worst immigrants, period.

I see all sorts of people come through 7/11s every day and most people are pretty alright, doesn’t matter what colour they are, but when somalians come in and especially their little bastard kids, 10/10 chance there’s going to be a problem with theft or violence. The amount of 6 ft Somalian teenagers i’ve had to square up with every week is unreasonably high. They are dumb as fuck, they see someone like me that can bench their whole family and they still square up. They get thrown out on their ass and they’ll come right back and do the same shit the next day. It’s no surprise that when we admitted a ton of them a decade or two ago, cut up bodies started showing up in barrels in our rivers. These are turbo niggers, they are extra retarded and we need to kick them all the fuck out. They are actual savages.
Tbh should start with the retards who enable them first.
 
Seeing the libtards flock the streets and social media being pro Palestine is the funniest thing to come out of this.
It's easy to forget, especially when most of your political interactions are online and with people of a /pol/ackish bent but: Most of the left, from the radicals to moderate left-liberals have a really, really deep disdain for Israel and (Conservative) Zionist political influences.
But not because of Jewishness (the same people class any criticism of Jewish soft power as some variant of "antisemitism") but because they've been primed by decades of anticolonialist and antinationalist rhetoric to oppose Israel unless Israel is willing to abolish it's own identity as an explicitly Jewish state.

They've toned it down the last few years due to a persistent brown scare in the West but the winds are turning...
 
With all the rocket attacks and stuff going on, I'm surprised that the Tel Aviv aerodrome is still accepting commercial arrivals. It has major delays though. As of this post there's a large Turkish Airlines 777-300 on approach and a few smaller planes ones behind it.

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On the long list of unsung hero jobs, let's have a shout-out to all the mad lads who still get the shit end of the stick and fly commercial airliners into perpetually wartorn shitholes in the middle east. Really must take either a lot of nerves or a lot of drugs.
 
Ahem.. the SAS.

I mean, Israel is objectively parasitic and a drain on the West, i don't think they are uber super villains like some poltards would suggest though. Just have their fingers in a lot of pies due to their brethen in high places in Western nations. Jews as a whole on the otherhand are an issue that needs to be addressed though.. not even from a place of hate, it's just obvious at this point that they are pushing degeneracy and non whites into Western society.
Look at this point I think with the internet who needs Jews when every single person can single handily post their worst and best moments online. We don't live in the free and open society we once had. Yes they own porn and don't get me started on Zuckerberg but I see it more as a generational problem moreso than anything. Like if Jews are these Uber evil people then why is it always quote on quote based white people trying to destroy white countries the most.

@Rich Evans Ayypologist - to respond to you the country with motive, plausible deniability and the real winner has been Iran here. They're making a killing in the war and they can sell Hamas militants to Russia in exchange for cheap gear they can hand off to the Palestinians for profit and control. The problem with social media is people just see ravers getting massacred, innocent people getting killed and ugly rhetoric. It is very nerve wracking and definitely forced some people to change their minds. Progressives the ones who rabble rouse the hardest don't see the consequences of their rhetoric. They will double down because they're never responsible.
 
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