2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Breadbassket]

A longer clip of the Nova music festival as it came under attack on Saturday morning by Hamas forces.

Spoiler

Footage already posted earlier by another user but this has audio.

 

[Kane lives in death]

Yea ima be honest i think they are panicking

 

[DumbDude43]

Innocents are getting killed on both sides. Bomb or bullet, does it really matter?

there is indeed a difference .
an apartment building where active enemy fighters are entrenched (and from where they are firing at you) is a military target. civilian casualties that result from blowing it up are regrettable, but unless you want to let those militants shoot at you from there forever you don't really have a way to avoid collateral damage.
on the other hand, massacring some techno festival full of random kids getting high on ketamine is just nonsensical. there is zero military value in murking those junkies, it's just cruelty for its own sake.

 

[Scrumption]

Someone knowledgeable please explain something. So as we know, prevailing belief is that the terror attacks were a surprise to Israel. That implies that Israel lacks Hamas intel. Yet the IDF is conducting targeted strikes on places in Gaza now. So how is it that Israel would lack crucial information about a planned attack but then be able to identify weapons caches and other military targets in such a brief window since the war started?

 

[Michael Wade]

Wow. You went from "ZE JOO IS FINISHED" to "ALLAHU ACK-" in a heartbeat. Please read your earlier posts again and realize how fucking delusional they were.

I fully admit I thought the Muslims were a lot more coordinated. I got a decent source on the ground but they were full of doomsday and over exaggerated the worst case scenario possible.

To be fair there's still time but it does look like the threshold has past.

 

[Soycast Guy]

Statement from US Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley

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Describing a conflict as “good vs evil” always makes it real easy to digest, huh?

 

[The Entity]

I’ve always found it kind of funny that the dissident right and the Twitter blue check crowd could find common ground in their anti Israel stance, but don’t band together because they don’t want to associate with those they consider an ideological undesirable.

I do find it funny that jews so consistently backstab whatever ally they manage to get that the hatred for them is pretty much universal through different ideologies, nations and races.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

It keeps escalating

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Iran left Hamas out to dry. I really was expecting them to go all in. Without Hezbollah support they are screwed.

This was a one in a million shot and they'll never get another chance. Evidently Iran's leadership valued their lives more then winning.

Would be nice to see things "cool" down

You're assuming that Iran's involvement was more than some Hamas people asking if its ok if they do the attack and Iran responding with a flippant "yeh sure whatever idc." Iran's proxy force is Hezbollah, not Hamas, Iran is busy consolidating their gains in Iraq, closing down support to Yemen since its been a stalemate for about a decade, trying to help Armenia and Syria, along with Lebanon after the port explosion.

 

[Rabbi Palpenstein]

So how long do you guys think it will be before Israel just fucking glasses Gaza? By the looks of things they're gearing up to, and just waiting for the right amount of provocation before they swing

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

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I am expecting a lot of companies to now take this stance since Hamas started threatening the hostages.

Man and here I thought MLB was pro terrorism. Thanks for clearing that up Manfred.

 

[01169]

Have you not seen the talking points going around about "palestine is not all Hamas" and "Israel is hurting innocent people in Gaza by shutting off water and power!"? They didn't leave Hamas out to dry. They used them because they knew Israel would have to put on a show of force, and war is nasty. Now they have people pushing the narrative that Israel is over-reacting, and attempting to lower their standing in the world. It's classic de-influencing technique, and it should be easy for anyone to see straight through.

Why are some people acting like Iran is the big deal in this conversation? Their government almost got toppled a few months ago because some roastie didn't want to wear a headscarf. It's highly unlikely they've got any skin in this game other than projecting a bit for social media clout.

 

[spaztocate9000]

In case this hasn't been posted already, I thought her take was pretty spot on:

https://vidmaxviral.com/video/221204-israeli-who-served-25-years-with-the-idf-says-there-is-no-way-hamas-invaded-without-israel-knowing-ahead-of-time

 

[CHARizard]

Hamas official says group is open to discussions over truce with Israel​

Oct 9 (Reuters) - A senior Hamas official said the group is open to discussions over a possible truce with Israel, having "achieved its targets."

Moussa Abu Marzouk told Al Jazeera in a phone interview that Hamas was open to "something of that sort" and "all political dialogues" when asked whether the Islamist group is willing to discuss a possible ceasefire.

https://archive.ph/kRq1Q

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Even when I was a little kid and playing it for the first time, I was like, "you know this really doesn't make me feel like a hero"

Never fight fair.

Hamas official says group is open to discussions over truce with Israel​

https://archive.ph/kRq1Q

Somebody is not enjoying the proportional response.

 

[MadStan]

Can you really call it 9/11 for Israel?

This...vs...this? I mean we know Israel exaggerates but really.

 

[footballteam]

Another video of an Israeli pissing on a dead Hamas soldier.

This one is a bit more NSFW

Spoiler

Also - don't stand in the street during a bombing run

 

[Fate Fan]

btw the Curator of that church in Gaza says it is still there, intact, and currently taking in fleeing Pallys seeking refuge

Link of some type?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Someone knowledgeable please explain something. So as we know, prevailing belief is that the terror attacks were a surprise to Israel. That implies that Israel lacks Hamas intel. Yet the IDF is conducting targeted strikes on places in Gaza now. So how is it that Israel would lack crucial information about a planned attack but then be able to identify weapons caches and other military targets in such a brief window since the war started?

They already knew about these targets from spies and were biding their time in order to have targets to strike when a new war happened.

 

[draggs]

I think Hezbollah is a little bit surprised by how forceful Israeli response has been. The amount of soldiers and equipment Israel has called up in general and the amount of force they're using on Gaza is much larger than what they did in the 2006 war with Hezbollah. I do think they'll still jump in, but every hour they don't makes it more likely they decide eh maybe next time when Israel isn't already in a mindless rage