2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Evilronald said:
It really goes to show how much the military industrial complex grifts off the west that our weaponry hasn’t proven to be as effective as we expected. Poorly maintained Russian garbage tech has proven to still do some damage despite how much money has been spent trying to neutralize its effectiveness.
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Idk, I think it’s pretty impressive to see an apartment block collapse into rubble from a single missile.

Of course it now seems that we have an issue of scale. You don’t want to spend 1,000 times the cost of a drone to shoot one down, but people are working on it.

Armament companies aren’t really what I see as the evils of the military industrial complex.. that’s more like corruption in infrastructure, belt-and-road type shit.

Example: the problem isn’t “why F-35 cost so much?” because market effects come into play. If you price people out of the market, sales end up being lower. Of course the manufacturers want to be able to figure out how to do it cheaper and sell more fighters. They just have to have something like time to work it all out. You’re not going to ever be at peak efficiency when you stop making things before you get good at making them and move on to more complicated projects.

But, WHY are US troops guarding oil fields in Syria? Why did Halliburton win so many no-bid contracts to rebuild Afghanistan?

Those things are different because they aren’t subject to a market. They’re just ordained.
 
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im5!XxhO said:
Also NATO Secretary General calls for a "proportionate" response from Israel. That is very interesting phrasing considering a lot could be proportinate here.
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If we take the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange as a reference point, the proportion appears to be one Israeli is worth 1047 Palestinians. Currently we’re sitting at ~1200 dead Israelis, so a proportional response to the Israeli authorities would be about 1.3 million which is roughly about half of the population of Gaza. Expect to see total Israeli dead to hit at least 2200, so they can justify making a clean sweep of the whole strip.
 
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More rocket fire from Gaza City

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A Humble Moose said:
With the Gaza City power plant down I'm wondering what this area in the city is that's lit so damn brightly. Anyone have any ideas?

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footballteam said:
Lots of solar panels in Gaza - but if I were to guess, that would be a hospital or something to that extent. As anything of military value that lit up would be a easy target for the Israelis
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yeah last night it was about the only building with power, it is clearly the hospital. as for buildings being lit up being targets; this isnt ww2, the Israelis have drones with night vision and infrared, you dont need building lights to identify targets for air strikes anymore; otherwise them cutting power to gaza would actually hurt their bombing operations.

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More rocket fire from Gaza City

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so far all the barrages since the bombing started have been pretty small and ineffective. they have to know that there is no way a small barrage is doing anything, right? im assuming they are just shooting back to just shoot back and nothing more. could also be that they cant get a large barrage going due to either being low on rockets at this point and/or any attempt to set up more than a single launcher is going to immediately get blown up.

i am curious a this point what their inventory on rockets even is. their initial barrage was so massive and sustained that i am certain that they have to be running low at this point.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
they have to know that there is no way a small barrage is doing anything, right?
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Yes and no. It may not hit anything and do damage to buildings or people, but it still forces Isreal to fire off missiles to intercept it. Very expensive missiles that cost tens of thousands of dollars. Those shit box rockets cost maybe a few hundred. It's a semi effective form of economic warfare.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Situations like this always bring out the psychopaths, because its for situations like this that psychopathy is still ingrained in human genetic heritage. Sometimes you need people who just want to watch the world burn and delight in the screams. Because those are the people who will do for the tribe what the tribe itself is incapable of doing, even if its for its own survival.

Human beings are not as removed from our animal nature as we like to believe, and anone who claims we are born good and are made bad by society is a retard. We are born bad. We are born as animals, and only society, the society we grow up in, can make us good. If our society is bad, we will never be good.

At the same time though, sometimes good societies run into bad ones, and when that happens they either get genocided, or they find the monster within their own ranks who has absolutely zero moral hang ups about "billions must die". This I think is why Psychopathy and Sociopathy exist in the human species. And why they will always exist. Because at a fundamental level large social groups need people like them from a biological standpoint.

But woe to the world when these people run it.
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The "Bronze Age Mindset" of the "Bronze Age Warrior", etc.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
so far all the barrages since the bombing started have been pretty small and ineffective. they have to know that there is no way a small barrage is doing anything, right? im assuming they are just shooting back to just shoot back and nothing more. could also be that they cant get a large barrage going due to either being low on rockets at this point and/or any attempt to set up more than a single launcher is going to immediately get blown up.

i am curious a this point what their inventory on rockets even is. their initial barrage was so massive and sustained that i am certain that they have to be running low at this point.
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Yeah it's most likely a symbolic attack more than anything. They likely are either running low on rockets or are saving them for another major barrage at some point. Maybe they expected Hezbollah and Syria to be getting involved already so only stocked up enough rockets for that first barrage. It's all up for speculation at this point.

Side note, I've been reading your messages in this thread in the voice of Rich Evans and it's amused me greatly. Thank you for that.
 
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im5!XxhO said:
Loomer is one of those Twitter grifters that peddles any shit to get views and cash. Doesn't matter if it is remotely accurate, because even if you are "fact checked" you still get paid on Twitter now.
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Even better, when they are fact checked now and the community note goes up people retweet it to dunk on them and retards reply to that tweet, thus boosting views and engagement and advert revenue.

It pays to be a lying retard on Twitter now. The bigger retard you are the more cash you take in.

It’s temping just to start a shithead account on there spewing all sorts of lies to trigger the soyfaces and literally drink champagne purchased with their tears.
 
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FatalTater said:
This seems like a good time to remind folk that a "false flag" event doesn't mean that a thing never happened or that no one got hurt, just that things surrounding the event aren't as they seem.

Watch for false flags, and be careful who you blame for stuff.
Also, DO NOT GO TO ANY RALLIES!!! STAY HOME!!! Do not put yourself in the position to be used as a meat shield!
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Also do not put yourself in the position where your face and likeness can be attributed to criminal activity or put on any sort of list for being involved in whatever is going on.

Ain't worth it.
 
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