Inactive PreciousLeaf / LeafPrecious / John Engel / MariotehPlumber and Caroline Galipeau / DoubleMenu / Fleshleaf / RedsLeaf - Trolls Pretending to be an Autistic Schizo Manchild obsessed with a Pokemon Character and His Tard Wrangling Wife; Weens and Coddlers Are Flooring

i remembered seeing an old post from PL on reddit and i find it interesting looking back at it knowing what we do now.

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in this comment he mentions meeting leaf and telling her about his problems and she said she wanted to help him. now this could all just be basic mindleaf stuff but if he is actually talking about fleshleaf here that could also make sense as the leaf PL talks about here claims she wants to help him just like fleshleaf does.

it could be that PL started all this stuff about leaf because of fleshleaf if she was his first and only friend perhaps he became so obsessed with her than he started seeing and hearing her even when she was not there and that is how mindleaf is born. mindleaf could just be a voice in his head that represents a real person.

so stuff like mindleaf telling PL to do stuff could just be him remembering things fleshleaf told him to do. maybe this whole time what we thought was the character leaf could have just been fleshleaf.

overall i am willing to accept fleshleaf being someone who has known PL since he was young. the sex stuff is just weird since no matter how you talk about it the fact remains that PL has no interest in that stuff. the things he does he does for leaf there is no true enjoyment or emotion behind it.

if this was all the work of a ween it would be far more obvious. all that being said whoever fleshleaf is i still think shes no better than a ween seeing as she has shown that she cares more about attention than anything else. she could help PL but never does. in a way it feels like shes trying to drag PL down to whatever level of degenerate she is and further his obsession with leaf.

also it sure is funny how once we started noticing how PL's messages to her on twitter would often fit whatever was being discussed on here that she decides to go back to ignoring us by talking about us with PL. maybe she is just an attention whore but if that was the case surely one of those discords PL is in would feed her desire for attention.
 
in this comment he mentions meeting leaf and telling her about his problems and she said she wanted to help him. now this could all just be basic mindleaf stuff but if he is actually talking about fleshleaf here that could also make sense as the leaf PL talks about here claims she wants to help him just like fleshleaf does.
I think MindLesf came first due to the "I've known Leaf X years" discrepency, but it does seem that Fleshy merged with MindLeaf at some point ages ago.
 
PL has to experience everything involving Charizard or Leaf in every different way conceivable. He rewatches videos of people using Leaf in Masters multiple times in order to blink at different times during the video. He once rolled on a banner in Masters just because it featured a slightly different picture of Charizard and "wanted to know the feeling of pulling on a full body closed mouth charizard."
Holy shit this is so fucking autistic
 
Target is "upscale" for PL and white trash in general. The niggery you see at Walmart is (usually) rarer at Target. It would be like shouting Charizard at a fancy department store is what I assume is the equivalent in PL's mind.
As someone that keeps an eye on the Pokémon TCG (probably the only thing there that PL would be interested in) and other TCGs I can tell you that there’s still niggery present at Target, especially when you hear stories about scalpers buying out restocks and jumping suppliers.
 
After a lot of investigation and significant help from the group of @a hapless toad, @Cryptojew, @Buttercream, and myself we’ve compiled a pretty solid doxx on PL and Fleshy. Buckle up.

Initial discoveries

As you all know Fleshy has been posting pictures of her and PL IRL since she came to light. With some of these pictures we were able to identify a few key pieces of information. First off, taking a look at this picture:

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We were able to reverse image search and locate an Instagram profile:

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At face value it could be innocent but if we check out some of her pictures we see something interesting:

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Alright, looks convincing, let’s take a look at Facebook. Turns out she has a twin, Genevieve and a brother, David.

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Huh, John eh? Well, looking at John he appears to be very similar in appearance and stature to PL, plus the name matches. Looking at the comments we see that his mother and sister replied to the announcement on Facebook:

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In investigating further using the information we discovered we were able to locate his family:

Father - Richard “Rick” Engel
Mother - Kathleen “Kathy” Engel
Sister - Jessica Engel
Sister - Jamie Engel

Additional evidence using his family Facebook profiles yielded a trip to Disney back in September as well.

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Alongside that we found out that PL’s middle name is Raymond. John Raymond Engel.

Everyone, say hello to PreciousLeaf AKA John R Engel and RedsLeaf(Fleshy) AKA Caroline Galipeau.

Interestingly Caroline thought it was a good idea to post on a public post that they were moving to Montreal in July. After some digging and using the references Fleshy and PL themselves gave us we found the most likely neighborhood - LaSalle Montreal, Quebec.

Here is a similar apartment to compare to the collage below.

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Oh, they honeymooned in Charlevoix and stayed at a chalet there.
https://alpagascharlevoix.com/
https://www.chaletsauquebec.com/en/23108

So to confirm, Fleshy (Caroline) married and moved PL (John) to Montreal, and then started trying to gaslight everyone into still thinking he was in the US.

Early Years

I’m going to backtrack a little bit, to roughly 2011 first and foremost. Caroline has a YouTube channel where she posted this video:



In said video PL is nowhere near as disjointed or unhinged as we’d come to expect in more recent years. There are also photos of PL on Caroline’s Instagram from around 2013 that show PL. There are comments on this video on YouTube comparing PL to another previous lolcow, Mariotehplumber. More on that shortly.

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In 2015 he was on the Dean’s list for Southwestern Illinois College.

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So a few quick things have been debunked - PL never dropped out of elementary school, Fleshy has been around since at least 2011, and seemingly PL wasn’t disowned by his family since they’re willing to take him and Caroline both to Disney (specifically that failed Star Wars hotel).

You may be wondering where PL has been all this time? Illinois, like people thought. Specifically he was living at a combination of either his parent’s house or an alternate property. Here are two relevant addresses that we can confirm PL was resident of at some point:

5 Steeplechase Ct, Saint Jacob, IL 62281
94 Sugarmill Rd, Troy, IL 62294

MTP

Here’s where we come back to Mariotehplumber. He had a thread on the farms (and ED) for some time with a remarkably similar MO to PL. Mostly the ridiculous spending on objects (in MTP’s case Rosalina amiibos) and obsession with fictional female characters. As it turns out someone discovered MTP’s Facebook account at the time and shared his name - John Engel.

Unhinged Rosalina lover behavior
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Now, MTP’s Power Word from ED differs but he’s the only person insane enough to spend a small fortune on amiibo just so people couldn’t “hentai” her, further if the comment itself is anything to go by, it seems like a false alias given by MTP himself.

Comparing their physical features they look remarkably similar.

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What’s more though is this screenshot from one of MTP’s posts where he was in front of the Sugarmill Rd property that PL’s father owned at the time, prior to them moving to Steeplechase.

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Now, there may be skepticism on whether this is a stretch or not, but in that case I’d direct you to MTP being busted and “coming clean” about a 4 year long trolling endeavor:

"This persona took a lot of dedication and work for me. Basically if I wasn't doing anything in real life. I would make a video of my true thoughts through an exaggerated persona that would create a ruse with some people.
To achieve this I had to not only do this through youtube but various other websites.
- Making fake apologies
- Doing something people want but then turning around to your old ways
- Say Normal people like me play this game etc.
- Say that everyone wants what you want.
- In front of camera act like someone that isn't stable and make gestures hinting you are nuts. (no offense to the people who have this)
- Say playing as girl characters is bad ( I actually don't like it most of the time with the exception of metroid but I do understand why they do this)
- Showing legit proof of the information of the games you are talking about so people are confused if trolling or not
- Accepting people's invitations on skype hoping they would record me therefore, giving more proof to my insane persona.
- Don't break character by laughing when people talking to you
- Acting like a idiot on purpose
- trying to ask for advice only for the reason on benefitting myself and bragging
- "Hoping" that it restores my reputation making it seem I thought I was a big shot..
- Making butthurt videos
- Tweeting every once in a while for people to catch I have a twitter threating suicide on titanfall to make it seem I am even more crazy.
- Pronouncing words wrong in a way where it is fluent and believable
- Claiming to be #1 or any other word to deem yourself superior to others.

There is many more but I used these methods,tactics, and ways to confuse the majority of the people of who I really am."

So this seems to line up with what we’re seeing from PL and also explains why he popped up out of nowhere and has no presence on the internet prior to 2019-ish - he was using a different alias entirely.

There is some additional information that I can’t find a good place to put in the post, so I’ll just spoiler it all here.

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Translation:
"John Engel, aka Mariotehplumber, a 24-year-old man has bought 100 Rosalina amiibos because he doesn't like her.
Due to the rules of the province, I cannot post videos about the matter as the ones I have seen so far contain foul language.
Mariotehplumber, an Amiibo scalper, has bought 100 Rosalina amiibos for about 4000$ US. He has done this because he hates Rosalina so much that he does not want others to have Rosalina amiibos. He also has another $35,000 that he intends to spend on similar stunts in the future, for Lady Paulentina, Robin, Zero Suit Samus and Lucina."
https://kvakkfnas.boards.net/thread/312/fyr-har-100-rosalina-amiiboer
archive: https://archive.ph/kGQA7

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Caroline's accounts

LinkedIn - Archive
Facebook
Instagram
YouTube - Archive
Medium - Archive
Behance - Archive

TL;DR PL is actually Mariotehplumber, AKA John Raymond Engel 34, married to French-Canadian Caroline Galipeau, currently living in Montreal. John has been gaslighting people for years presumably in an attempt to gain clout, but otherwise his motives are unknown.

I need a stiff drink.
 

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