UN Australian vote to give Indigenous peoples a voice to parliament fails

Australian vote to give Indigenous peoples a voice to parliament fails​

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By Michael E. Miller
October 14, 2023 at 5:04 a.m. EDT

SYDNEY — Australians voted against a constitutional amendment on Saturday that would have recognized the country’s Indigenous peoples and provided them with an advisory body, or “Voice,” to Parliament.

The result had been predicted by polls but nonetheless came as a crushing blow for many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, who saw the referendum as an opportunity for Australia to turn the page on its colonial and racist past.

The Voice, deliberately drafted as a “modest proposal,” would have advised Parliament on issues relating to Indigenous peoples, such as housing, health care and employment, but would not have had veto power.

Instead, the opposition appeared to have successfully stirred fears over the proposal’s consequences with the slogan “If you don’t know, vote no” and claims that it was divisive, as well as targeted social media posts that were sometimes misleading or false.

The defeat was also a setback for the center-left Labor government and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who made the referendum a priority after winning office last year.

Referendums are difficult to pass Down Under, however. They require a so-called “double majority” — a majority of the nationwide vote and a majority within at least four of Australia’s six states.
Local media called the results at around 7:30 p.m. in Sydney — before the polls had even closed in some parts of the country — because three states had already solidly voted No: New South Wales, Tasmania and South Australia.

The Yes campaign appeared unlikely to prevail in any state.

Initially, polls showed roughly two-thirds of Australians supported the idea of an Indigenous “Voice to Parliament.” But after a poor performance in the 2022 election, leaders of the conservative coalition saw an opportunity to dent Albanese’s popularity and regain momentum, according to analysts.

“It was really done and dusted from that point,” said Paul Williams, a political scientist at Griffith University in Brisbane.

Williams also pointed to a difficult economic climate.

“When people can’t pay their rent or find a place to live or schedule their operation or they have to choose between feeding their kids and getting their medication, they are not terribly interested in helping other people who might be lower on the ladder,” he said.

Indigenous people have lived in Australia for around 65,000 years but suffered greatly with the arrival of the British in 1788.

Australia’s Indigenous population plummeted under colonial rule due to imported diseases and massacres committed by White settlers that lasted well into the 20th century. From the mid-1800s to the 1970s, federal and state governments systematically removed Indigenous children from their families to assimilate them; they are now known as the Stolen Generations.

Unlike other nations the British colonized, such as the United States, Canada and New Zealand, Australia has never recognized the sovereignty of its First Nations people with a treaty.

Although the country has begun to reckon with this racist history, including providing some reparations, it has struggled to reduce the disparity between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians, known as “closing the gap.”

Indigenous Australians have fought for greater rights for decades. It wasn’t until after a successful 1967 referendum that they were officially counted and legislated for by the federal government.

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How the hell did white people evolve to be so welcoming to other races? I legitimately don't think it's a societal thing at all at this point.
I think you're actually on to something here.

White people (more than other races) are mostly responsible for the rise of dog-worship culture, where dogs are seen as morally superior to humans and so humans share their food supply with them, all while pretending to be terrified of climate change. You know what's not good for climate change? Mass producing enough food and grain to serve the billions of dogs that exist.

It's not a societal thing, it's absolutely genetic. A white person will think they themselves may be alright, but other white people are evil and bad, all while black people / dogs / nonwhite immigrants are all much better by comparison.
 
It's not a societal thing, it's absolutely genetic. A white person will think they themselves may be alright, but other white people are evil and bad, all while black people / dogs / nonwhite immigrants are all much better by comparison.
To be honest the #1 killers of white people will always be other whites so it's not too unreasonable a conclusion.

This idea of racial solidarity is a myth and only exists in colonial countries that have lost any connection to their home countries and cultural identity through mass immigration by multiple white cultures...whites destroyed the Roman Empire, sacked Constantinople in the Crusades, slaughtered 1/3rd of Germany's population in the Thirty Years' War and killed tens of millions in the Napoleonic Wars, World Wars and countless other inter-white conflicts.

Even right now Russian and Ukrainian whites are being slaughtered because of a war of conquest by one European nation against another. How does that help preserve the white race?
 
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People recognized this was another thin end of the wedge to benefit not aboriginal people as a whole, but the aboriginal grievance bigots who are already quite well paid and taken care of

Would end up doing fuck all to help the gas huffers and the women and children they abuse, but would take power away from the Australian people in general and give it to a bunch of selfish bigots running a perpetual struggle session at taxpayer expense, at an even grander scale than they do already
 
How the hell did white people evolve to be so welcoming to other races? I legitimately don't think it's a societal thing at all at this point. This shit has to be genetic. No other people on this earth is almost suicidal in its tolerance of others. Did all those European wars just make you hate people who looked like you? It's just ridiculous.
Cultural evolution of moralizing everything. Blame the Enlightenment.

A good example of this is the British Empire. After 1815 it was essentially built on abolishing slavery up until the 1870s when it became more of a military thing. Pretty much every war in this period involved abolish slavery in some shithole. It's modern descendent is the West spreading 'democracy' everywhere
 
Anyone else get an uncanny valley feeling the first time they saw an abo irl?
I got that feeling like my brain couldn't comprehend what I was seeing and I honestly thought that must be a really good mask and costume or something, until I realized no it was just how their face was.
I guess it's like seeing another species of hominid for the first time. Wild.
 
Anyone else get an uncanny valley feeling the first time they saw an abo irl?
I got that feeling like my brain couldn't comprehend what I was seeing and I honestly thought that must be a really good mask and costume or something, until I realized no it was just how their face was.
I guess it's like seeing another species of hominid for the first time. Wild.
Aborigines is the only race of human beings that I can't imagine any outsider wanting to mate with.

Even the ugliest and manliest looking black African tribes will have some women with boobs and a not offensive face that could make you think, "yeah, I could see how mixed race people could come out of this situation."

With Abos, it's absolutely impossible to imagine. In this thread, I was really surprised to read that there are mixed people who have aboriginal ancestry but appear and are white. How did that even happen?
 
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You have GOT to be kidding me?!? A fine for NOT voting?

I guess nothing should even surprise me after vaccine checkpoints and raids for Facebook posts, but still what a fucking SHITHOLE.


I remember seeing a redditor claim that Australia wasn't totalitarian and his proof was they have mandatory voting. Australians are a lost cause
 
How the hell did white people evolve to be so welcoming to other races? I legitimately don't think it's a societal thing at all at this point.
The problem of course is that only a few generations ago white people were awesome! They literally conquered most of the world. Go back a few more generation and you have the crusades and Vikings and shit.
If it is genetics then damn that's a lot of mutation in a short amount of time.
White people (more than other races) are mostly responsible for the rise of dog-worship culture, where dogs are seen as morally superior to humans
Diogenes was pretty based though
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Even right now Russian and Ukrainian whites
Um... so Slavs are white now?
 
IIRC this Voice, had it been created, would not even be the first 'Aboriginal advisory body to the government' anyway. The Australians had them before and disbanded them all after (as far as I can tell) they basically accomplished nothing, the difference is that this would have been constitutionally enshrined and thus permanent with no future government ever having the ability to dissolve it like the past attempts at a permanent Aboriginal council, right? (And realistically, leftist governments & idpol being what they are, it probably wouldn't have stayed 'advisory' for long anyway.)

Anyway I've heard that had this Voice thing passed, it would have only been the first in a series of Abo demands for an eventual formal treaty, reparations, a South Africa-style 'truth & reconciliation commission' and all sorts of other racial grievance bullshit. Frankly if that Pedopedia summary is even remotely close to the truth, Australians have just dodged a bullet the size of Saturn when they voted to shut this shit down by the margins they did.
 
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