2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Rome's rightful successor]

On an amusing side-note, the original soyface guy (who happens to be Israeli) is currently losing his shit right now on Tiktok about the conflict.

Was he thinking this was something we should take seriously?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

So they're not even giving him the "he was a nice guy but not a god" treatment? Guy had a reputation of feeding and healing people and they say he deserved to die?

The rule in Judaism for the Messiah is this: he can't die, he can't add or remove from the torah and he's a normal mortal dude. Also most of the good stuff Jesus talks about are just rules that the Jews have already been following internally. Basically if you add or remove from the Torah and your Jewish you have to be killed. Now you can only be killed if you were knowingly doing it, had been told to stop by two different people AND kept going AND if the temple in Jerusalem exists. That's also the difference between Muslims and Jews. Jews make it near impossible to kill someone the Muslims don't. I've heard people say Jesus was a nice guy because he got people to stop worshipping idols, but generally he broke the law at the time and Judaism is a legalistic religion (hence why it pops out so many lawyers).

 

[3-2-1836]

Another angle of the Iron Beam interceptions:
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When memes become reality.

 

[King George III]

One million Gazans have fled their homes in the past week

 

[wopirish]

Be careful not to cut yourself on all that edge.

I'm fairly certain this guy has gone through a number of alts before with similar name schemes.

Back on topic,
I'm curious how the protests throughout the west will affect policy in the next couple decades as the people who are out there with the pro-palestine rallies get into positions of power in the governments of the west.
Or how that Iran 6 billion will be played in the next couple weeks. Since they've already backpedaled and tried to make vocal mincemeat of the previous press released.

Edit: how will Lord Miles get into gaza, you know that will happen.

 

[LurkTrawl]

But then the Palestinians voted in Hamas because Hamas didn't work with da Joooz and still wanted to fight da Jooz.

Interesting take you have on it. Seems the Israeli government liked Hamas.

 

[ㅤㅤㅤ]

Very few and far in between

unlike your posts, unfortunately

 

[Illidan Stormrage]

Before the Balfour Declaration, Palestine was a place where Christians, Muslims and Jews existed relatively peacefully. Sure there were probably random skirmishes and shit but compared to the wholesale slaughter that has happened post-1948, it was paradise.

Ever since 1948, everything has gone to hell as the Israelis got what they wanted and everyone else got fucked. How many hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the last 70 years or so ? How many times do we need to keep bringing up the map of Israeli territory expansions ? Do rocket attacks still happen ? Yes. Is Israel continuing to build territories illegally ? Yes.

Nobody in their right mind likes the idea of innocents being killed but the whole current-year consoom themed starting every conversation with "Do you condemn Hamas" is just tiresome at this point. The Palestinians have been systematically murdered for decades but no one cries for their slain children. 2 wrongs don't make a right but give me a fucking break with the mainstream logic that there is only 1 evil in this equation.

Don't get me wrong...the Israelis are doing what is in their nature. It's the rest of the countries that you think would actually give a fuck like Saudi who do jack shit which is the real problem. Then again, I remember reading somewhere that the Saudi Royal Family might be Crypto Jews, so I guess it adds up that they'll do nothing ?

This shit is all so tiresome...

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Interesting take you have on it. Seems the Israeli government liked Hamas.

The israeli's "supported" Hamas and I use that term loosely because it was seen as a way to weaken the PLO/PA. It's similar to how the libertarian party fucks up the Republican party

 

[quackrock]

Also remember that most of the towns which they claim they were expelled from had at most 300 people. They left when they heard the Israelis were coming.

Do you think making 750,000 Arabs flee in terror because the proto-IDF murdered 10,000 of their friends and family excuses that violent dispossession? Do you think it's "not ethnic cleansing in God's eyes" if you didn't kill every last one of them? Never mind razing their homes and violently preventing their return.

I don't get why you keep baiting this thread with boomer Zionist talking points. Maybe if you consumed more oppositional media (not /pol/ or Memri TV, but actual history) you'd have a more balanced perspective.

 

[LurkTrawl]

The israeli's "supported" Hamas and I use that term loosely because it was seen as a way to weaken the PLO/PA. It's similar to how the libertarian party fucks up the Republican party

Last I checked the LP hasn't ever donated to the RNC en masse nor explicitly supported it or one of their candidates. Nor has the LP ever been in control of U.S. policy foreign or domestic. That also wasn't "the israelis", it was Benjamin Netanyahu and his finance minister.

You have a very interesting opinion of what that quote means.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

The stupid fucks should have been building Resort Casinos, like the injuns, to fleece dumbshit European tourists.

Nah, Ayyrabs cannot casino properly from my experience.

Gambling is illegal in Israel (a relic of the moralfagging of the 50s when among other things TV was effectively banned) so Israelis who want to lose a few mortgage payments and their trip to visit relatives in NYC have to get their fix in Taba, Egypt which is just across the border from Eilat.

I was there and my god have I never seen such a shit-ass looking casino in my life, and I've been in a weird Triad-adjacent one once. It just was so depressing with like maybe 2 dozen people altogether (half Israeli the other half Eastern European), the electronic games looked like Chinese knockoffs, the place just looked filthy, and the staff were staring the whole time, like into your soul. In addition to all that, zero ambiance, like no echo because of the short ceiling and no background music at all; just people talking which wasn't that much since everyone seemed to just whisper. It's strange how you notice when the small things are missing. I legit felt unease there that I don't feel often. A waiter asks me if I want a drink in Arabic and I ask if he's got beer. He replies "stella?" and my dumb brain thinks it's Stella Artois, so I say yes. He comes back with this disgusting pisswater for $10...

I now understand why the prophet said alcohol is haram; fucking Muslims cannot make alcohol worth a damn.

I'll continue to choose to get fleeced by megacorp USA and Injun reparations Casinos, thanks.

 

[Devout Muslim]

serious why tf cant muslims bant, is it the low iq from being inbred or are they just stupid from hitting their heads on the floor 5 times a day?

I wasn’t really banting. Rather, I was disagreeing with his claims that:

a) Holocaust denial is a psyop
Calling Holocaust denial a ‘psyop’ is entirely spurious and sounds retarded. People don’t need to be psyoped into coming up with stupid ideas nor ideas that are convenient to their own worldview. As the Holocaust is frequently used to make political implications, it’s expedient to simply deny it happened. What is expedient to believe is also easy to believe.

b) nobody has made exaggerated claims about the Holocaust.
Claims of Jewish people being made into soap and furniture are the most obvious examples. As people learn that these things they were taught are lies, it’s natural to call other details about it into question.
Officially revising numbers downwards would only lessen trust in the historicity of the event, not strengthen trust. It fuels the narrative that the facade is crumbling as much as it does the counter narrative that the historians are objective and honest.

Spoiler: bant

but also Jewish soap doesn’t work because it smells like shit every Saturday

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Do you think making 750,000 Arabs flee in terror because the proto-IDF murdered 10,000 of their friends and family excuses that violent dispossession? Do you think it's "not ethnic cleansing in God's eyes" if you didn't kill every last one of them? Never mind razing their homes and violently preventing their return.

I don't get why you keep baiting this thread with boomer Zionist talking points. Maybe if you consumed more oppositional media (not /pol/ or Memri TV, but actual history) you'd have a more balanced perspective.

I think that the Palestinian struggle is the result of the failed abortion that was the Arab Republic. I know my history and I've been in the region. Look the idea was that the arab states would delete israel off the map and establish a grand arab nation from Egypt to syria. But that failed when they got their ass handed to them twice, once with US resupply. The Egyptians also realized that the Syrians suck as partners. So Syria used the Palestinians as pawns for their grand designs in Lebanon and Israel. The independence war in 1948 war a horror show ON BOTH SIDES. To claim only one side was clean or the victim is utterly disgusting and wrong, only dumbasses think that way. The reality is that like the Native Americans the Palestinians lost and they are LUCKY the leaders of Israel weren't all members of the Stern Gang. To talk about 1948 would be like if I sat here and cried that Germany doesn't own Kaleinagrad. They don't. It was 100 years ago, either move on and adapt or get crushed under the boots of time.

 

[quackrock]

Edit: how will Lord Miles get into gaza, you know that will happen.

He's a zealous recent convert to Catholicism, right? Maybe he'll go full Noahide and volunteer with the IDF.

It was 100 years ago, either move on and adapt or get crushed under the boots of time.

That's great, but it's one thing to move on and another to excuse ethnic cleansing, which is what you were doing and why I typed all that out. You've complained about Holocaust denial and historical disagreements on this thread yourself, so "just move on" seems like an odd position to take.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Last I checked the LP hasn't ever donated to the RNC en masse nor explicitly supported it or one of their candidates. Nor has the LP ever been in control of U.S. policy foreign or domestic. That also wasn't "the israelis", it was Benjamin Netanyahu and his finance minister.

You have a very interesting opinion of what that quote means.

My analogy wasn't the best. Look I've never said Israel is a perfect country. I'm just saying this is what their hope is. It's like how DNC supporters will support LP to undercut the RNC or how the RNC will support the Green party to undercut the DNC. And personally Bibi is a snake and I hope this FINALLY gets him out of office and into a prison cell for corruption. But I'm not in the mood to get into the dumpster fire that is Israeli domestic politics. It's all Jews out jewing Jews from the top all the way down.

 

[wopirish]

He's a zealous recent convert to Catholicism, right? Maybe he'll go full Noahide and volunteer with the IDF.

He did just get released from an 8 month, "vacation" in Afghanistan. Apparently he is so affable that he made buddies with the taliban. I really wouldn't put it past for him to somehow get in Gaza one day and just start livestreaming just like the fall of Kabul all over again.

 

[Enig]

Currently thinking about how the US was forced to finally ramp down and let go of Vietnam, a conflict caused by prior lunacy from the British and French, to help out with Yom Kippur, a war that was also the result of other prior lunacy from the British and French. Why the fuck is it the US has to keep mopping up stupid long term damages from those two.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Mark my words, we will soon see AI/ML being used to provide evidence of atrocities that never happened.

 

[quackrock]

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