Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[huckbeine]

he is a king and his comicsgate empire is an empire of dirt

 

[KingofSomething]

Eric is streaming right now. Someone said told him that @FROG was making claims that Eric was threatening him to choose sides in Dax/Vito shit. Eric's response was to not address it at all because he hoped @FROG wouldn't say that and he wouldn't jump on secondhand comments. EVS thought this meant he should just drop dm's apparently. I guess that's another bridge burned.

 

[irishAzoth]

Eric is streaming right now. Someone said told him that @FROG was making claims that Eric was threatening him to choose sides in Dax/Vito shit. Eric's response was to not address it at all because he hoped @FROG wouldn't say that and he wouldn't jump on secondhand comments. EVS thought this meant he should just drop dm's apparently. I guess that's another bridge burned.

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damn don't think there are any clips of this because Eric privates his streams like the gremlin he is
would be interesting if Eric burns the EVS bridge. The EVS cover for ISOM#2 was the most sold cover as well as probably the best one.

 

[KingofSomething]

damn don't think there are any clips of this because Eric privates his streams like the gremlin he is
would be interesting if Eric burns the EVS bridge. The EVS cover for ISOM#2 was the most sold cover as well as probably the best one.

Eric usually sets these things behind a membership paywall so they're still viewable. @FROG dropping dm's out of the blue when he thought they were cool must have really shook him more than I thought to actually private the video. I still don't understand why that was @FROG's immediate response to someone not trying to pick a fight with him or address the drama and Eric seemed genuinely hurt by it before the stream went private. I'd say if anything, @FROG burnt that bridge with this stunt

 

[Fleetwood]

Shit is popping off right now on X/twitter, war between @cyberfroghd and Rippa fans. It's a good time to archive some tweets. The way the Dax thread and Null's opinion on this drama is going this thread is about to be a war zone of people calling @FROG a fag. They would be correct.

 

[KingofSomething]

Wish I could scrape X/twitter, but it's been a pain in the ass for me for some reason to find tweets ever since the switch and the fact that you need an account now.

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

@mitro backed up the stream.

 

[FedPostalService]

What I’m a loss is why is Frog taking the side of Dick Masterson? I understand Dick was someone who was internet famous twenty years ago but he’s now an old guy with an overproduced YouTube podcast that barely gets 20k views?

He doesn’t even LARP as a Christ loving boomer con either. Him and Vito look like they’d both need to skip the country if their hard drives ever got seized.

From an entirely professional perspective it would make sense to kid quiet, or side with Eric July rather than killing a goose that laid golden eggs.

I can’t see the angle. Am I missing something or is it shear professional jealousy and hoping the drama bumps sales on your comics that are years late?

Happy to be plastered with all the retard stickers if I’m missing something obvious.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

did you guys know the Edward Nigma/The Riddler is a muslim now?

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

What I’m a loss is why is Frog taking the side of Dick Masterson? I understand Dick was someone who was internet famous twenty years ago but he’s now an old guy with an overproduced YouTube podcast that barely gets 20k views?

He doesn’t even LARP as a Christ loving boomer con either. Him and Vito look like they’d both need to skip the country if their hard drives ever got seized.

From an entirely professional perspective it would make sense to kid quiet, or side with Eric July rather than killing a goose that laid golden eggs.

I can’t see the angle. Am I missing something or is it shear professional jealousy and hoping the drama bumps sales on your comics that are years late?

Happy to be plastered with all the retard stickers if I’m missing something obvious.

There's 5 years of content of EVS being an absolute sociopath. This isn't even the first time he drops private DMs for zero reason.

The fact that July is so genuinely shocked is crazy. He should have read the thread before working with EVS.

Also, all these white middle-aged Americans in the space seem to be obsessed with Howard Stern. They want to be him or suck his cock or whatever. Masterson is admittedly the closest EVS has to a "connected" Hollywood shock jock friend.

 

[Arkenas Einbrecht]

Wish I could scrape X/twitter, but it's been a pain in the ass for me for some reason to find tweets ever since the switch and the fact that you need an account now.
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If you see any thing that catches your eye I can fetch specific screen shots. The farms has provided me with laughter for years at this point. The least I can do is fetch some screen shots once in a while.

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All in all this whole thing is gay. I've said it many times: there is something about creators in this space. Nearly all of them seem to need tard wranglers to keep them from posting stupid shit.

Yeah, yeah, I know. bandicam is shit(even when paid for). ...buuuuut it lets me record small slices of the screen. I should look into better tools later tonight.

Eric should be quietly documenting every thing his detractors get up to(hire someone if he has to), and go about his day. Market his comic, make content, etc. The potentially illegal actions should be reported to the police. The more you kvetch online the more people will target you. I get that people don't like that fact about the net, but it is what it is.

For the record I don't think Eric is responsible for people fucking with him. That is on the people targeting him. He is, however, responsible for how he acts and reacts. He has yet to realize he's not dealing with normal people here, he's dealing with dregs from 'The Sektur'.

Ah well. While I do have sympathy for Eric -- the more this situation escalates the closer we get to my dream of Riley having an unfavorable exchange with the cops.

 

[Rupin]

And EVS/Rippa Feud? i’d have thought this would happened a lot sooner like when ISOM 2 totally shit on Cyberfrog 3.

This site really needs a popcorn Rating!

 

[KingofSomething]

If you see any thing that catches your eye I can fetch specific screen shots. The farms has provided me with laughter for years at this point. The least I can do is fetch some screen shots once in a while.

Thanks, but even seeing current tweets on someone's profile is a tossup for me so just grab whatever suits your fancy

For the record I don't think Eric is responsible for people fucking with him. That is on the people targeting him. He is, however, responsible for how he acts and reacts. He has yet to realize he's not dealing with normal people here, he's dealing with dregs from 'The Sektur'.

Honestly this is the problem, Eric is a relatively normal dude which is why he keeps getting caught off guard by these IBS shenanigans because he's expecting these adults in their 30's and onwards to actually be adults. It's a wild time that the ex-gangbanger is the most reasonable and ethical guy in the room

 

[Mister Dongs]

Yes... objectively it's possible to analyze the lawsuit separate from Dick. At least in parts. @Mister Dongs seems to be trying. However, even that presents something of a problem for a lot of people seeing as Dick and his people are the ones pushing the narrative to the charity there's consumer confusion. This has been thoroughly documented over in the Rekieta and Masterson threads.

I guess. Is it really attacking Rippa to say he should be taking the lawsuit seriously? Claiming that it will be thrown out as a matter of course and he should kick his feet up and not lose any sleep over it seems more in line with wanting to score imaginary points against Dick Masterson rather than anything to do with helping our precious, precious Eric July.

On one hand, he's raised the bar in terms of service and fulfillment. Brought the concept of timetables and deadlines to a sector that was a veritable clown car of shirkers and incompetents. The Iconic Comics Rippaverse model triumphant is a great boon for the consumer, and has shepherded a great number of customers into buying a comic book for the first time. What's more, he staked his own money on it instead of appealing to a community to pay for it for him, so I don't consider him beholden to a community like I do many others. I don't even hold Isom to the mainstream level, recognizing it as a sincere first time effort by an amateur. But by that same token, I found the press tours on FNT selling Isom on promises that it was going to "destroy LucasArts" and other pie-in-the-sky claims to hundreds of thousands of retards to be profoundly irresponsible. Some of the people listening are going to actually believe that, or hold him to those standards. But that's his problem, not mine.

My issue with July was his intent to empower his fandom into a personal retard army charged with fighting 'bad actors' (read: critics), which I told him at the time was a big mistake given what happened to Comicsgate, and especially given the sort of people he's worked with in the past. Having an uncontrolled army of speds doing nothing but generating colossal ill-will towards you in your name doesn't end well. July proceeded to ignore it, and later refuse to use the word 'criticism' whatsoever in preference of the word 'detractor'. He then went to go on to toss out various lolberg talk like "libel and slander are not covered by the NAP", which translated from ancap-to-english means he felt justified in whatever level of retaliation he feels is necessary in response to talk about him that he doesn't like. For the most part this has consisted of flagging and brigading campaigns against smaller channels at any criticism of Isom, which, again, at the end of the day is a work by a first time writer and journeyman artist team and such criticism was inevitable. My favorite was when the Rippatards searched a critic's name in the sex offender registry, found a guy with the same name and started spreading word on social media that he was a pedophile. All that for not liking Isom. But I guess because Mike Partyka isn't an e-celeb, no one cared. Then him and his personal army collided against a far more vicious group of weening retards willing to take it much farther then they were. They don't really seem interested in criticizing him either at this point so much as fucking with him by whatever means they can. Am I supposed to feel sad for Rippa for his current predicament?

He hasn't produced any notable works yet (although I'm optimistic about the Alphacore project by Dixon and Bennett), sticks to his business, and tries to be as isolationist as possible and keep his dealings with anyone who can't personally benefit him to a minimum. So I don't cover him a lot of in this thread, "top dog" or no.

He should have read the thread before working with EVS.

He did.

and jon malin attacked him immediately afterword's ...

https://www.youtube.com/live/rpddf6T74fQ?si=wnvfDilBL8xw9qTm

I am on team PTP, because after 2 years of seeing him on evs kiongs im to slow to denounce him

Frog had an efap of Malin's efap. TL;DW - Jon Malin and Shane Davis are buying their own table at the C2E2 convention in Chicago some time next year. Have they shown an interest in attending any conventions before PTP's Tampa Bay CC meetup? No. Frog, a man who cannot contain his hatred of the convention circuit, goes on at length about how he fucking hated C2E2 and regaled the audience unprompted with a story about how the last time he was trucked out by DC to that crimefilled shithole city SJWs started spreading rumors that he had a Barack Obama monkey doll in order to cancel him. Is this convention going to happen at the same time PTP's CG Las Vegas meetup is going to happen, where Davis and Malin are almost definitely not invited? Perhaps. Perhaps. The point is, PTP's claims that they are trying to counterprogram his own "CGLV" meetup at Las Vegas are all just the ravings of a paranoid schizophrenic.

PTP and Biggons (PTP's #2) present their objections to the the proposed C2E2 convention, criticizing aspects like the intent to crowdfund all expenses (flying out Malin, Shane and their friends, paying for their room and board, security, other such things) by crowdfunding the sale of a matching set of 3 variant covers. That it's distasteful and cheap for the most affluent people in CG to burden the fans for they and their friends' every expense. All this stratifies and creates a tiered hierarchy of what should be a communal gathering of fans and creators made equal in hanging around Paypiggons the experience of 'being CG'. Malin's promises of smaller CG artists being allowed a brief hour to leave Artist's Alley to grub for scraps after paying their own way did not win over a lot of people. Also, Biggons has some doubts as to various assertions made as to the preparations made for C2E2 given that they aren't accepting deposits yet. Malin's counterarguments to these claims can be fit into the the four categories of "comic creators pay for things by selling comics, deal with it", "don't count my money motherfucker", "you don't know that" and "fuck you". Also all this stuff about 'smaller creators' is commie talk.

 

[FedPostalService]

If you see any thing that catches your eye I can fetch specific screen shots. The farms has provided me with laughter for years at this point. The least I can do is fetch some screen shots once in a while.

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All in all this whole thing is gay. I've said it many times: there is something about creators in this space. Nearly all of them seem to need tard wranglers to keep them from posting stupid shit.

Yeah, yeah, I know. bandicam is shit(even when paid for). ...buuuuut it lets me record small slices of the screen. I should look into better tools later tonight.

Eric should be quietly documenting every thing his detractors get up to(hire someone if he has to), and go about his day. Market his comic, make content, etc. The potentially illegal actions should be reported to the police. The more you kvetch online the more people will target you. I get that people don't like that fact about the net, but it is what it is.

For the record I don't think Eric is responsible for people fucking with him. That is on the people targeting him. He is, however, responsible for how he acts and reacts. He has yet to realize he's not dealing with normal people here, he's dealing with dregs from 'The Sektur'.

Ah well. While I do have sympathy for Eric -- the more this situation escalates the closer we get to my dream of Riley having an unfavorable exchange with the cops.

I felt really sorry for Eric. Not only does he find out live on stream someone he thought he had a professional friendly relationship with is leaking private conversations but then the cunt comes into chat to play the victim.

What utter fatherless behaviour by @FROG

He reacted well considering he had a knife plunged in his back live on stream. I know I’d have shut the camera straight away to go and rage and plot revenge.

I’ve had shit like this happen to me professionally and luckily I wasn’t on camera as I was far less magnanimous.

 

[Captain Manning]

Is it really attacking Rippa to say he should be taking the lawsuit seriously?

It is not. He should absolutely take it seriously.

That said, I also think Dick Masterson is an extremely bad actor, and I have sincere and reasonable doubts at this juncture about there being consumer confusion between the two ISOMs. Especially if it's based on he and his people convincing the charity there is.

However, I also think it's early... this thing is gonna probably drag on for a long time... additional evidence may be presented that might change my opinion... and there will be ample time to dissect this more in the future.

 

[Arkenas Einbrecht]

What I’m a loss is why is Frog taking the side of Dick Masterson? I understand Dick was someone who was internet famous twenty years ago but he’s now an old guy with an overproduced YouTube podcast that barely gets 20k views?

He doesn’t even LARP as a Christ loving boomer con either. Him and Vito look like they’d both need to skip the country if their hard drives ever got seized.

From an entirely professional perspective it would make sense to kid quiet, or side with Eric July rather than killing a goose that laid golden eggs.

I can’t see the angle. Am I missing something or is it shear professional jealousy and hoping the drama bumps sales on your comics that are years late?

Happy to be plastered with all the retard stickers if I’m missing something obvious.

Consider that EVS adores all things mafia. The backroom dealings, the back-stabbing, the drama -- all of it. Realizing that, also consider: People often forget EVS was a viewer, and occasional guest, on the Killstream. He used to be an associate of the Bog Hog(he may still be, I don't know). He is also friends with Rekieta, which places him directly in the orbit of Juju, Vedo and Riley. I'm sure there are other connections others can fill in that I've forgotten.

An absolutely retarded(but fun/funny) scenario to ponder: Is it possible EVS is building some weird multi-media mafia network? Could all this fighting perhaps be intended to weed out the chaff and leave him with loyal capos?

I felt really sorry for Eric. Not only does he find out live on stream someone he thought he had a professional friendly relationship with is leaking private conversations but then the cunt comes into chat to play the victim.

What utter fatherless behaviour by @FROG

He reacted well considering he had a knife plunged in his back live on stream. I know I’d have shut the camera straight away to go and rage and plot revenge.

I’ve had shit like this happen to me professionally and luckily I wasn’t on camera as I was far less magnanimous.

There is a reason I urge normal people to stay the hell away from The Sektur. They are addicted to conflict. When an alliance breaks down they form new ones and attack former alliance members. This has been the way of things since The Sektur came into existence... and will remain that way until they are all dust.

 

[KingofSomething]

My issue with July was his intent to empower his fandom into a personal retard army charged with fighting 'bad actors' (read: critics), which I told him at the time was a big mistake given what happened to Comicsgate, and especially given the sort of people he's worked with in the past. Having an uncontrolled army of speds doing nothing but generating colossal ill-will towards you in your name doesn't end well. July proceeded to ignore it, and later refuse to use the word 'criticism' whatsoever in preference of the word 'detractor'. He then went to go on to toss out various lolberg talk like "libel and slander are not covered by the NAP", which translated from ancap-to-english means he felt justified in whatever level of retaliation he feels is necessary in response to talk about him that he doesn't like. For the most part this has consisted of flagging and brigading campaigns against smaller channels at any criticism of Isom, which, again, at the end of the day is a work by a first time writer and journeyman artist team and such criticism was inevitable. My favorite was when the Rippatards searched a critic's name in the sex offender registry, found a guy with the same name and started spreading word on social media that he was a pedophile. All that for not liking Isom. But I guess because Mike Partyka isn't an e-celeb, no one cared. Then him and his personal army collided against a far more vicious group of weening retards willing to take it much farther then they were. They don't really seem interested in criticizing him either at this point so much as fucking with him by whatever means they can. Am I supposed to feel sad for Rippa for his current predicament?

Yeah Eric does need to do better at taking criticisms. I've enjoyed the odd episode of Monetize your haters because they brought in the occasional funny critic, but I always thought the idea in practice wasn't a good idea as it made him look sensitive and some people wouldn't care about being monetized and escalate, which is happening now. I do agree that Eric could keep a tighter leash on his fans as I've seen them go rabid at any negative criticism. The pedo accusation is new to me and he definitely should have chastised them if they were doing that shit under his name.

PTP and Biggons (PTP's #2) present their objections to the the proposed C2E2 convention, criticizing aspects like the intent to crowdfund all expenses (flying out Malin, Shane and their friends, paying for their room and board, security, other such things) by crowdfunding the sale of a matching set of 3 variant covers. That it's distasteful and cheap for the most affluent people in CG to burden the fans for they and their friends' every expense. All this stratifies and creates a tiered hierarchy of what should be a communal gathering of fans and creators made equal in hanging around Paypiggons the experience of 'being CG'. Malin's promises of smaller CG artists being allowed a brief hour to leave Artist's Alley to grub for scraps after paying their own way did not win over a lot of people. Also, Biggons has some doubts as to various assertions made as to the preparations made for C2E2 given that they aren't accepting deposits yet. Malin's counterarguments to these claims can be fit into the the four categories of "comic creators pay for things by selling comics, deal with it", "don't count my money motherfucker", "you don't know that" and "fuck you". Also all this stuff about 'smaller creators' is commie talk.

Biggons has a point here, it's kinda fucked to have your fans pay your way there and then presumably have the gall to charge them again when they show at the table for a signing or whatever. Pay your own way. Also Malin and his crew potentially dating their convention appearance the same time as the Vegas meetup is a little petty if true

 

[Mister Dongs]

Yeah Eric does need to do better at taking criticisms. I've enjoyed the odd episode of Monetize your haters because they brought in the occasional funny critic, but I always thought the idea in practice wasn't a good idea as it made him look sensitive and some people wouldn't care about being monetized and escalate, which is happening now. I do agree that Eric could keep a tighter leash on his fans as I've seen them go rabid at any negative criticism. The pedo accusation is new to me and he definitely should have chastised them if they were doing that shit under his name.

Both parties escalated, it's just that once you go from being a flaggot to doing tours on youtube defending your right to shoot the other guy for criminal mischief in parking lot and threatening lawsuits, there's really nowhere to escalate it from there beyond actually shooting them. Which would be very inconvenient for July, (as well as for Riley who would be dead, but who cares?). He's been trying to ratchet it back finally, but that's easier said than done at this point. He could have just, y'know, taken the 3.7 million dollars and accepted that some cranks would always be pestering him.

 

[huckbeine]

I would just love to see someone do a Johnny Somali and actually fucked enough around and actually found out. IN TEXAS!!!