Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[Brandobaris]

And of course the lawsuit she filed, docketed as Chelsea van Valkenburg v. Eron Gjoni, is a primary source, so it would be "original research" to include it.

The fact is Wikipedia has no real rules. They have fake rules they apply as they see fit, but they use the fake rules to create an appearance of integrity that is basically illusory.

No, no there rules are listed right here, along with the last rule, that there are actually no rules.

 

[VortekPMD]

Zoe has learned the lesson we told reality TV stars, video hofesionals, and Kato Kaelin. You can't suck your way to Hollywood fame and you can't suck your way out of your problems.

If a Zoe Quinn game ever comes out as Game of the Year, it better be the best damn game of all time, because anything less she sucked everyone off the Pacific coast to get that title. And she brought it on herself. She, like Anita, used sexist stereotypes and their white privelege to get ahead while slanging their brand of feminism. All buick, no substance. Except cum.

 

[Cynical]

Geth got on this, comparing this recent reveal to the smoking gun of Watergate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc...iniongamergate_the_modern_day_watergate_with/

And fires this direct shot at Quinn (in reference to their attacks on Liana):

And much like how Nixon's goons got erect at the thought of fucking over Daniel Ellsberg, so these assholes get hard-ons at being a bigger enemy to a woman than Gamergate ever has been, if ever. Bonus irony in that QUINN HERSELF is directly scheming with her acolytes. Not even Nixon was that fucking stupid.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

I think Cross is the real brains behind this honestly. It was present as the handler when Sarkeesian was on Colbert. Where McIntosh is more like the speech writer. Has anyone ever caught Cross out on Twitter? Ever?

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This picture has sort of a poetic quality about it, don't you think? Anita is the face, and there in the reflection...

We live in such an amazing country. A small Puerto Rican boy from New Jersey can grow up to become a british woman. I noticed Katherine says she's a fan of roleplaying. Who would have guessed?

 

[ObeseScreamingBlackMan]

Veerender Jubbal - Notorious race-baiter who got used by 4chan in the funniest way possible when they shooped a Koran into his hands and gave him a shooped bomb vest. The media picked up on this and lulz were had. A long-time affiliate of Margaret Pless who spends roughly 75% of his twitter time whining about how Whitey is making his life miserable. Pless absolutely loves the guy because he's a token POC friend.

The fucking shooped background dildo that nobody ever noticed sealed the deal on that one.

 

[Breakfast 4 Dinner]

Out of curiosity, has Crash Override Network actually accomplished anything of note? Or is it just the end result of these chat logs, a bunch of shitty people conversing behind closed doors on how best to be shitty, all in order to bolster their egos over their importance.

It just seems like CON is a total glamour product for Chelsea, something to put on her resume and to brag about, but I can't find anything that it has actually done, other than put some "What to do if you are doxed" info on the web.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

It just seems like CON is a total glamour product for Chelsea, something to put on her resume and to brag about, but I can't find anything that it has actually done, other than put some "What to do if you are doxed" info on the web.

Nail on the head there. CON was just a vehicle for Zoe (and maybe one or two of her associates). I think Alex was the only one who harbored any delusions about it being more than that.

 

[H3LLH4MM3R666]

Of course CON was announced three weeks after the Zoepost went up, when Zoe didn't think she had a career in games anymore and needed a new source of income.

So of course the very first course of action in establishing CON was to collect donations. Hosting and building a website costs a lot of money, especially when you're dating three guys who are willing to build it for free.

 

[Fully Interlocking Pieces]

Also what are the odds that her giant forearm tatoos are to cover up her past cutter lifestyle? Because I'm guessing 100%

Well, that or track marks.

I've been reading the leaks, and one thing just jumped out at me. You know who was wrist-deep in this shit?

Dina. Of comcept fame. The woman who started banning Kickstarter backers for not falling in line and deeming Gamergate a hate-group.

What's amazing about this isn't that they're this much in cahoots. It's that even with this much open collusion, this much blatantly being in bed with one another (figuratively and literally), even with so many of them working different angles to try to fuck over that dastardly Gamergate, they still fucking lost to a bunch of video-game playing spergnerds. All that sturm and drang, so many powerful people working so many angles, and a year later, this is what it came to.

Which name did Dina go under? Maybe I'm just blind but I'm having trouble finding her or any mentions of her. She went by PetiteMistress, right?

EDIT: Never mind, she went by Dina, she just wasn't in the first round of logs posted here.

 

[Jaimas]

Out of curiosity, has Crash Override Network actually accomplished anything of note? Or is it just the end result of these chat logs, a bunch of shitty people conversing behind closed doors on how best to be shitty, all in order to bolster their egos over their importance.

It just seems like CON is a total glamour product for Chelsea, something to put on her resume and to brag about, but I can't find anything that it has actually done, other than put some "What to do if you are doxed" info on the web.

I'm pretty sure either AnOminous or Batman vs Tony Danza made this joke, but the abrieviation for CON tells you exactly what it is.

They've accomplished exactly jack and shit, without doing fucking anything. In fact, none of these "Anti-Harassment" groups have done anything more than make things worse through name-and-shame, as we saw with fucking Heartmob, a website the Kiwi Farms got to grind to a halt in less than 10 hours. Every single one of these morons who runs an "Anti-Harassment" group does so with the full intention of using it as nothing more than a personal cash extraction service, whether it's Randi Harper's OAPI or Brianna Wu's Natalie O'Brien.

Geth got on this, comparing this recent reveal to the smoking gun of Watergate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc...iniongamergate_the_modern_day_watergate_with/

And fires this direct shot at Quinn (in reference to their attacks on Liana):

Jesus. Geth goes right for the throat here and doesn't mince words. He points out exactly what's going on and does a damned good job correlating this huge amount of data. If I ever had to give someone a synopsis of what the logs held, this would be required reading.

 

[Rou]

Geth got on this, comparing this recent reveal to the smoking gun of Watergate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc...iniongamergate_the_modern_day_watergate_with/

And fires this direct shot at Quinn (in reference to their attacks on Liana):

He should really stop alogging. I want to read an article, and I find it hard to take an article seriously when it drops an f bomb in every sentence.

 

[Poor Choices]

I will bet dollars to donuts that her eventual move is going to be to leave Feminist Frequency entirely at some point, offload it on some other person or organziation, and attempt to get into politics

Sarkeesian was born in Canada and grew up near Toronto. Her parents are Armenians from Iraq who emigrated to Canada in the 1970s.

She'll do fine, our PM is a drama teacher after all.

 

[Cynical]

He should really stop alogging. I want to read an article, and I find it hard to take an article seriously when it drops an f bomb in every sentence.

Did a little counting, the f-bomb is dropped like half a dozen times, at least half of those allude to the actual "ratfucking" operations (as coined by Donald Segretti himself in reference to his and his operatives smearing of Nixon's political opponents with all sorts of dirty tricks) in which the intentions were the same as what Geth is referring to, so it's not so much a-logging as going with the "it's Watergate all over again" theme.

And if you think Geth f-bombed too much, listen to the actual tapes or read the transcripts of Nixon's conversations, Geth doesn't even approach the level of foul language Nixon was capable of.

 

[Jaimas]

A friend of mine, reading the logs, just noticed something I myself did not.

These leaks show that Quinn's clique is the one who initially doxed Brianna Wu in order to get her involved in the Rat King.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

It doesn't really prove anything, Secret Gamer Girl could easily have been making shit up.

 

[Cynical]

It doesn't really prove anything, Secret Gamer Girl could easily have been making shit up.

Counterpoint: Even in this private chat they are all trying to keep up appearances, and no one denies it's true.

 

[repentance]

Counterpoint: Even in this private chat they are all trying to keep up appearances, and no one denies it's true.

Zoe implies it's untrue when she says the source is probably her "psycho ex who is also making up" other stuff.

 

[Vaclav]

Counterpoint: Even in this private chat they are all trying to keep up appearances, and no one denies it's true.

"Dr. Internet" denies it right there in the chat. Her denial could also be interpreted as simple anger at Liana for making the claim, but if she were forced to defend it she would no doubt say she was stating its falsehood.

However, if anyone has the ability and motivation to signal boost this leak, it'd be Flynt. Mainstream media probably won't want to touch it unless someone tries using it to sue Chelsea, and I don't see the leak giving much of a clear cause of action to anyone. Flynt may have the motivation and certainly has the desperation for relevance to do something about this.

Unless that happens, the leak is a fun tidbit but unlikely to change much. The world has mostly moved on from Chelsea.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

It doesn't really prove anything, Secret Gamer Girl could easily have been making shit up.

This. It doesn't make sense. Wu was a nobody before GG and wasn't even in the same circles as Zoe. Wu wanted to get into the GG dogfight and get her name out there. It's helped her career and gave her a small window where some people mistook her as being credible.

 

[Cynical]

Cross posting a @Jaimas comment from the Wu thread:

Short version:

Back when GG began, Wu got involved with the Rat King that is Quinn's clique because of several incidents - one in which she had been doxed, and the @Chatterwhiteman tweets, also known as the Death To Brianna tweets. These were the ones that infamously led to Wu "fleeing her home" and claiming she had been the victim of a sustained campaign of attack. Wu pointed to this incident so commonly that it was a centerpiece on The Internet Ruined My Life. At the time, it was quickly revealed that SomethingAwful was the party behind the Chatterwhiteman tweets.

The interesting part comes in when we see Secret Gamer Girl's admission. We know that a huge portion of Quinn's buddies are former SA alumni that were banhammered for excessive autism, and we know conversely that a lot of them maintained strong ties to SA until their meatpuppets too were given the boot. Correlation is not causation, but these people aren't exactly known for subtlety or common sense, as evidenced by how many of them are blatantly fucking insane.

The leaks establish a strong possibility, given all this, that the Chatterwhiteman attacks, originally dismissed as an SA prank, came from Quinn's clique in the first place.