2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[AN/ALR56]

Smh Israel shouldn't have dressed so slutty

You can't go and let a dwarf deck you when you claim for the past 50 years that you're a fucking martial arts badass.
Doesn't matter that the dwarf becomes gutter cleanup afterwards.

 

[curson]

New evidence found, we've been all wrong about who bombed the hospital.

 

[TheBigZee]

OIC meeting is today.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/RL5cW

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

I'm wondering what the death toll is really looking like here. It's an even more crappy way to go too. Fire instead of getting blown to bits in an instant.

What are the chances that at least some of the arab world (the countries at least) start walking back some of the shit of the last ~24 hours? I know some wont but will any of them outside of maybe Egypt? Surely even if they don't, they won't have the will and energy to try and get involved or seriously fuck with Israel or the west now? I can see them trying to save face but that's about it. (outside of countries like Iran of course) I hope so.

just replace twitter.com with nitter.net in the url

Oh sweet, Nitter didnt work for me a while back, thought they gave up. Thx

Thanks for the info.. My computer doesn't like even viewing twatter and gets annoying. There are add-ons like the old reddit one that redirect to nitter by default. Going to try it out since I usually just archive to view anyway. lol

 

[01169]

It really baffles the mind that people could assume it's impossible for hospitals to be bombed when Obama played target practice by drone striking doctors without borders hospitals. The IDF has expressly stated that hamas are animals are will be treated as such, and I don't see a lot of animals that are allowed to operate hospitals. So it's not absurd to assume it as a possibility. And if Saudi Arabia is breaking the mold and coming out against the Western position, we're probably going to witness a long overdo paradigm shift. Not exclusively for the hospital bombing, if it really is the IDF and coalition forces' fault, but for the horrifically botched PR job over the last week that seemed to assume everyone on the planet are idiots or stark raving mad. People aren't as dumb as the tabloids would have you believe. And openly calling for a genocide is a bad look.

No one questions the Israeli's ability or willingness to bomb hospitals. People are saying it's fishy that we've seen building upon building crumble to dust for the past 10 days or so from Israeli bombardement and over those days the death toll had been about 200 per day. And now there's supposed to be more than twice that in a single incident with footage from the aftermath that looks like a pipe bomb exploded? Nah. Ain't buying it.

It's fucking nuts that you can't be logical anymore without being accused of being a glowie or shill.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

You can't go and let a dwarf deck you when you claim for the past 50 years that you're a fucking martial arts badass.
Doesn't matter that the dwarf becomes gutter cleanup afterwards.

My issue with these takes is that it assigns no agency to the dwarf. They have had multiple offramps for peace and they refuse to take it

 

[TheBigZee]

What are the chances that at least some of the arab world (the countries at least) start walking back some of the shit of the last ~24 hours? I know some wont but will any of them outside of maybe Egypt? Surely even if they don't, they won't have the will and energy to try and get involved or seriously fuck with Israel or the west now? I can see them trying to save face but that's about it. (outside of countries like Iran of course) I hope so.

Extremely low IMO.

 

[verissimus]

No one questions the Israeli's ability or willingness to bomb hospitals

No, there have been people here questioning their willingness to bomb hospitals. Some of which have been extraordinarly gung-ho in favor of Israel this whole time.

 

[AN/ALR56]

OIC meeting is today.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/RL5cW

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/16/biden-oil-reserve-fuels-00121298

For added context:

An energy crisis spawned by a Middle East war 50 years ago spurred the U.S. to create a huge crude oil stockpile to shield the country from threats by unfriendly nations.
Now the oil lying in half-filled salt caverns along the Gulf Coast is posing a political quandary for President Joe Biden.
Biden’s administration sold off more than 40 percent of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve last year to help limit rising fuel prices after Russia invaded Ukraine, leaving the stockpile at its lowest levels since the early 1980s. That’s fueling Republican accusations that Biden has left the U.S. vulnerable to a disruption of global oil supplies — at a time when Hamas’ terrorist attacks in Israel are stoking fears of a wider regional war disrupting fuel shipments from the Middle East.
“That’s Joe Biden’s fault for trying to lower the price of gas before the election,” House Natural Resources Chair Bruce Westerman (R-Ark.) told POLITICO.
Earlier, former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) lamented to reporters that “our Strategic Petroleum Reserve is down to nothing.”
In fact, the reserve still holds 351 million barrels — equivalent to nearly 56 days of total U.S. oil imports last year — though well below the peak of 727 million barrels it held during the Obama administration. That’s on top of 424 million barrels that private companies were storing in the U.S. as of early October.
The administration has defended its handling of the reserve, saying it still holds ample crude to protect the nation’s strategic needs and offer a cushion against price shocks. “I am not worried about the reserve levels at all,” Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm told a House committee in September, adding: “It is the largest strategic reserve in the world.”
And the U.S. is no longer the energy beggar it was in 1973, when the Yom Kippur War prompted an Arab oil embargo against the United States that sent prices spiraling and left Americans waiting in hours-long lines at gas pumps. Back then, U.S. oil production was dropping while its thirst for the fuel was rising — prompting Congress to pass a law in 1975 to create the reserve.
Five decades later, the United States is the world’s biggest oil producer, which exports more crude and petroleum products than it imports. Its output is at record highs and is climbing, even as demand has flattened

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-oil-output-top-shale-regions-set-fall-november-eia-2023-10-16/#:~:text=U.S.%20oil%20output%20is%20expected,bpd%2C%20the%20lowest%20since%20February.

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US oil output from top shale regions set to fall in November -EIA​

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Oct 16 (Reuters) - U.S. oil output from top shale-producing regions is set to fall for a third month in a row in November to its lowest since May, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in its monthly Drilling Productivity Report on Monday.
U.S. oil output is expected to fall to 9.553 million barrels per day (bpd) in November from 9.604 million bpd in October, EIA data showed.
Crude output in the Permian Basin in Texas and New Mexico, the biggest U.S. shale oil basin, is expected to fall by about 30,000 bpd to 5.9 million bpd, the lowest since February.

Crude production in the South Texas Eagle Ford region is due to fall by 19,000 bpd to 1.12 million bpd, the lowest since January.
However, production in the Bakken region of North Dakota and Montana is due to rise 190 bpd to 1.27 million bpd, the highest since March 2020.
Total natural gas output in the big shale basins will fall by 0.5 billion cubic feet per day (bcfd) to 98.8 bcfd in November from 99.3 bcfd in October, EIA projected.
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That puts gas output on track to fall for a record fourth month in a row, according to EIA data going back to 2007, and compares with a monthly record of 99.9 bcfd in July.
In the biggest shale gas basin, Appalachia in Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia, output is set to slide to 35.5 bcfd in November, its lowest since April. Appalachia output hit a record 36.0 bcfd in December 2021.
EIA said producers drilled 865 wells in September, the lowest since February 2022, and completed 919, the lowest since April 2022.

 

[AN/ALR56]

My issue with these takes is that it assigns no agency to the dwarf. They have had multiple offramps for peace and they refuse to take it

I bet you'd be kinda salty too if some randos took over your house and offered that crumbling shed on the backyard as a "take it or leave it deal".

 

[TheBigZee]

The main importance of the OIC meeting is it's going to show whether the muslim world really cares about what Israel is doing in response to Hamas' attack.

 

[01169]

No, there have been people here questioning their willingness to bomb hospitals. Some of which have been extraordinarly gung-ho in favor of Israel this whole time.

Fine. I don't. Excuse the generalization.

 

[Vash the Stampede]

I wrote a transcript of Biden's gripping speech:

You know uh.. years ago I uh asked secretary of state when he an I work in the Senate to write something for man(??) he said uh, he wrote a line that I think is a- propropriate he said uh.. it's not we lead uh.... it's not just uh.... well I won't go into it.. I'll wait later.. takin to much time. But the point is this that... uhhm -President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

Surely this will go down in history as on par with Winston Churchill's Fight On The Beaches speech and the Braveheart Freedom speech

 

[Cantaloupe52]

possibly some have already found the location of the the car park/garage photos, but outside of that we haven't seen the hospital directly. there were likely 2 strikes apparently. I'm speculative of the audio release by the IDF on those 2 supposed Hamas members talking about hitting the building. beyond it not confirming much of anything about the actual ammunition used, we don't know where it's being taken from, how they acquired the audio, and why it took them so long to actually make the audio available in the first place. For all we know the audio could've been from another bombing from recently or older. Even then, on the case that the bombing was somehow committed by Hamas, what type of munitions did they have that could've destroyed an entire parking lot and a hospital.

https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1714587748718243917

المستشفى الاهلي العربي (Arab National Hospital)

Parking lot coordinates

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

The amount of propaganda and unmitigated bullshit from both sides in this conflict surpasses even American Presidential elections. It's embarrassing.

 

[Deckard Bane]

You're one of several people to reference the damage from the explosion - have you actually seen what damage was caused?



Edit: caught up with thread. Is it just that fucking car park?

There were videos posted immediately in the aftermath, but it was admittedly dark and chaotic so you couldn't see much. I was referring more to the explosive fireball, so wrong choice of words. I still don't know what to believe and there are still a lot of unanswered questions. The entire claim and narrative is that the missile broke up and exploded, but the initial video we saw doesn't explain that much velocity behind the missile. I saw multiple experts claiming that it landed, had a first explosion, then a second - but again, it doesn't match up with the initial video. That cell phone vid is where all the doubt for me is coming from. It's possible that a rocket passed overhead at the exact same moment the other one broke apart and exploded I guess. IDF still could be responsible but I'm more leaning Hamas being responsible - either through a misfire like the current claim or they just flat out aimed it like retards and it hit full force. The other variable is the 500 dead - from a car park alone that's very much a stretch. There's also a claim going around that Israel said they hit a garage around the hospital but I can't find the actual tweet - just screenshots which can be easily faked.

Not that any of this matters. Both sides already know what happened and nothing will convince them otherwise.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I bet you'd be kinda salty too if some randos took over your house and offered that crumbling shed on the backyard as a "take it or leave it deal".

Why does no one bother to learn the history behind this conflict? It's insane, that reddit tier summary is everywhere for lazy people to commit to a side without thinking about it.

Palestinians want West Bank, gaza, east Jerusalem, as stated in their official peace terms. we offered what they requested to them 4 times and they refused.

 

[Kiwiballs]

Lucky for us the last Opec meeting was 3 days before the war started:

https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/press_room/7223.htm

But they could host an extra-ordinary meeting after the OIC meets. A united OPEC with Saudi Arabia/UAE and Iran on the same side as Russia and Venezuela is a world changing dynamic.
Im literally googling how to buy oil contracts right now.

But should we make a thread about it in the economy forum? I just trade basic stocks and stuff, so maybe someone more knowledgable than me could?


World -> J00s -> Kiwi's
We can do it!

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Why does no one bother to learn the history behind this conflict? It's insane, that reddit tier summary is everywhere for lazy people to commit to a side without thinking about it.

Palestinians want West Bank, gaza, east Jerusalem, as stated in their official peace terms. we offered what they requested to them 4 times and they refused.

Why you havent shoad them? like for real just go ham few months and then drop off the survivors in europe? its seems all they want is dead jews .

 

[Vott]

Iraq soon, source


Also reports of more exchanges being made at the Lebanon border near Aita al-Shaab and Ramiya.