2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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Speaking of Russia. It's no secret, Israel during the Joe Biden years, Israel has been flirting with siding with a Chinese-Russian block over the United States. What's the odds China will step in diplomatically to make a cease-fire instead of America? China has already humiliated the west by ending aggression between Iran and Saudi Arabia. If China sent more weapons to Israel now than the United States. The West could lose Israel to the eastern block. With how anti-israel the woke left is, this might be appealing to Israel in the long term. Israel has good economic relations with both China and Russia as it is. theoretically how would American evangelical and the far left react to a Israel picking China and Russia over US and EU?
this is retarded and you are retarded
putin didn't spend a decade propping up asad in syria and being best buddies with "death to israel" iran just to pull a 180 and become the great lover of jews all of a sudden.
likewise, china has been trying hard to gain influence and goodwill with the arab states in the region, switching sides and starting to arm israel now would ruin all that.
 
Every choice Israel has now is terrible or non-viable. Either domestic politics prevent it, defense considerations prevent it, or international diplomacy prevents it.
They can win the battle but they will lose the war, and Israel-as well as Jews-are not in a position to lose the war. The only viable move here is to withdraw. The thing is they believe they don't have to because we have their back but to say Biden's administration is weak is an understatement.
At this point, wouldn't it be easier just to bomb it and keep bombing, than sending the infantry and tanks onto the rubble?
The 6 gorillion card is in danger of getting revoked.
Are the Hamas tunnels impervious to any bombing and force them to do it by infantry?
HAMAS wants the IDF to go in. Think about what that means.
 
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Western countries will be importing literal hair trigger pit bulls on top of large amounts of Muslims currently there who are already attacking host countries, never mind after being hyped up by the Palistinians arriving with fresh scars from weapons paid for by their importer. Our governments will sell us the solution of an even more draconian police state at the people's request to keep them safe from the scary terrorists, patriot act 2 electric boogaloo, more war, more refugees, more destabilisation from a population you've imported that fucking hates you.

Every Palistinian granted entry into your country will have PTSD and extreme propensity for jihad behavior/rhetoric. They will have nothing left to lose and be freshly enraged for blood.

TPTB have essentially been working on large scale jihadi sleeper cells over decades via immigration policies, I've always thought that. They don't assimilate, they segregate themselves, and they fucking hate everything the West stands for. All the puppet masters need to do is piss them off with something like what they're doing now in Gaza, native citizens will beg their govt for law and order after terror attacks increase, and then they will lock everything down forever under the guise of protecting people. From them on, no unity in countries and constant warring between the racial factions so you will never, ever have the cohesion required to overthrow them.

Muslims are Israel's pit bulls now as much as they were decades ago. Remember this in the coming years. They're trafficking terror to your country and they have been for some time.
Stuff like this has made me start to question if an Israeli victory is the preferred outcome.
One one hand, if Hamas wins it will be a major blow not just to Israel but the entire US who have gotten too involved to not have this affect them too. Tensions between the two countries will never go away and another war is probably inevitable. Yes, there will be another Islamist country on the map but as tiny as the Palestinian population is, it's a drop in the bucket. Not like there are more Muslims in the world or anything. It's not even too far fetched if Hamas can make the ground invasion enough of a living hell. In the end though, Israel will survive just fine.

On the other hand, if Israel wins there it's likely that they will try to make it the rest of the world's problem when they bulldoze the strip. Great, more refugees that are almost guaranteed to be heading to Europe only to fuck up things even more. The Israeli regime will continue doing fucked up shit to Palestinians, Hamas or at least its ideology will survive but now the West has to clean up Israel's mess. Islam will have an even greater foothold in the West and now with a freshly radicalized flavor.

Maybe its better if Pibbles eats the stupid toddler.
 
Also, for the milspergs here, why is Israel bombing Gaza this much before going in?
Rubble is generally a lot better when you enter a city as opposed to buildings since while it still gives the defender some cover it is a lot less of a nightmare than a 12 story building with rpgs on every floor. Plus as an added bonus, the more the IDF bombs the more tunnels are getting buried under piles of rubble.
 
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this is retarded and you are retarded
putin didn't spend a decade propping up asad in syria and being best buddies with "death to israel" iran just to pull a 180 and become the great lover of jews all of a sudden.
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Yes, because the western media have been fear mongering and condemning Israel for taking a year just to sanction Russia over Ukraine for no reason. Israel and Russia have zero interest in each going against the United States, European Union and NATO. Even the news media in the Islamic world are also freaking out over Russia close ties to Israel.
likewise, china has been trying hard to gain influence and goodwill with the arab states in the region, switching sides and starting to arm israel now would ruin all that.
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China and Israel have been in bed together economically for 30 years. Israel had been investing in China and vice versa long before China began investing heavily in Arab nations. Israel already has a long history of just refusing to condemn China despite U.S. and EU request.
 
How great it would be if a bunch of traitors and leftist tards quit government and generally outed themselves in the defense of terrorists and against the support of one of our closest democratic allies!
Huh.


Closest ally sends spies to steal US technology and sink US navy ships and shoots the surviros in the flotsam with no repercussions.

Israel has been caught, on more than one occasion, selling American defence technology and secrets to the Chinese. The Israeli government has a long history of making unauthorized, and often illegal, transfers of US arms and technology to foreign states. This has resulted, on more than one occasion, in huge costs for the American taxpayer as defense technologies have to be reworked or shored-up against possible incursions as a result of the Israeli undermining of American national security.
The Israeli government has been caught:

Placing spy devices near the White House
Planting spyware on the devices of American government officials
Carrying out massive economic espionage on American firms

And is believed to have stolen bomb-grade uranium from the United States
In addition to these questionable acts and crime, the Israeli government also harbors known criminals who face prosecution in the United States, and is one of the foremost global centers of online and cash fraud.
Israeli behavior is appalling, and the American nation gains nothing by having the so-called State of Israel as an ally.
 
Imagine if Israel really goes through with killing/starving 100s of thousands of Palestinians. All those years building up a holocaust guilt machine only for it to be destroyed in weeks.
I find it funny that people think this will do anything to the Holocaust narrative. Let me put it this way, if jews in Germany were constantly going house to house gunning down German families, burning homes, firing improvised rockets at them constantly over the years the Holocaust would just be a footnote in history.

The Palestinians civilians will probably get as much pity as German and japanese civilians in world war 2. Which is not much outside their own "teams".
 
The Israeli regime will continue doing fucked up shit to Palestinians, Hamas or at least its ideology will survive but now the West has to clean up Israel's mess. Islam will have an even greater foothold in the West and now with a freshly radicalized flavor.
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Bingo. That’s the plan. Muslims have lots of kids. The West and Jews do not have babies at the same rate. In fact, Jews have the highest population decline in the world. The Palestinians are banking on winning in the long term by demographics. Osama bin Laden even wrote about Muslims winning against the west by demographic warfare over conventional warfare.
 
in other news, Israeli airforce has decided this 1,400 year old mosque had some nefarious Hamas trickery inside of it so it had to go.

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rumor has it that both the mosque and the Porphyrios church bombings have been perpetrated by the rogue IDF recruit V. Vargstein, better known by their nickname "מי ששורף כנסיות ומוסלמים כאחד".
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Honestly, who gives a shit about Palestinians. They tacitly support Hamas, and are therefore responsible for this mess. They poked a bear, and now are shocked they are getting fucked up.

Fuck them, and fuck Isreal for hiding behind the holocaust.

Honestly, I blame the US and specifically Woodrow Wilson. He fucked everything up at the end of WW1 by driving nationalism as the key, and splitting up countries and causing sectarian violence. Further compounded by the decolonisation the US forced upon Britain and France after WW2. So frankly all you US cunts its your fault.
 
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Yes, because the western media have been fear mongering and condemning Israel for taking a year just to sanction Russia over Ukraine for no reason. Israel and Russia have zero interest in each going against the United States, European Union and NATO. Even the news media in the Islamic world are also freaking out over Russia close ties to Israel.

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China and Israel have been in bed together economically for 30 years. Israel had been investing in China and vice versa long before China began investing heavily in Arab nations. Israel already has a long history of just refusing to condemn China despite U.S. and EU request.
they do business together where it's profitable, just like they do with literally every other country on the planet. but when push comes to shove, russia will not abandon its large persian ally in favor of the tiny and weak jewish state. neither russia nor china have an interest in taking over the burgers current position as the big paypig of israel - the only reason the burgers do this is because burger politics are captured by jewish interests. china and russia do not have that problem, they are both very aware that propping up israel is a huge net negative - not only in terms of all the goods and money they'd have to pay, but also in terms of the diplomatic fallout that would result from the muslims of the world seeing them as the new Great Satan.
 
The 6 gorillion card is in danger of getting revoked.
I just don't see that happening. If everything Israel and the jews have done up to this point hasn't done it, why would this war change anything? They even let Hamas massacre a good deal of Israeli civilians first to really build up the international pity points.
 
Also, for the milspergs here, why is Israel bombing Gaza this much before going in?
Disrupting operations, destroying emplacements, killing leaders.

Mostly it looks like political and military face saving. A small army crossed one of the most guarded, militarized borders in the world. Top brass in the IDF want to save their jobs, and the governing coalition wants to save their political ass.
 
The Palestinians civilians will probably get as much pity as German and japanese civilians in world war 2. Which is not much outside their own "teams".
Seeing how harder and harder it is to justify the nuclear bombings and the historical revisionism that started with confederate statues now hitting WW2 monuments like a bomber's memorial in England, I don't think so.

Germany nearly became a agricultural land without humans due to a Jew in the state department managing to convince FDR it was a great idea despite De Gaulle and Churchill rightfully warning it was a genocidal plan that would leave Europe without it's main economic motor and dependent on the Soviet union and America forever:

While the Morgenthau Plan had some influence until July 10, 1947 (adoption of JCS 1779) on Allied planning for the occupation of Germany, it was not adopted. US occupation policies aimed at "industrial disarmament",[2] but contained a number of deliberate loopholes, limiting any action to short-term military measures and preventing large-scale destruction of mines and industrial plants, giving wide-ranging discretion to the military governor and Morgenthau's opponents at the War Department.[3][4] An investigation by Herbert Hoover concluded the plan was unworkable, and would result in up to 25 million Germans dying from starvation.[5] From 1947, US policies aimed at restoring a "stable and productive Germany" and were soon followed by the Marshall Plan.[3][6]

When the Morgenthau Plan was published by the US press in September 1944, it was immediately seized upon by the German government and used as part of propaganda efforts in the final seven months of the war in Europe that aimed to convince Germans to fight on.[7]
 
This entire situation really shows that the world is simply full of cucks who furiously jerk off to either side, depending on the kink they are most into. Get a fucking grip in reality and not your bias filled, hate/love mongering, retarded conscious. People will kill, protest and riot in the most loud and ferocious way possible, for the acts of some and the victimhood of others, from places they've never been or will ever be in or even think about in a daily basis, but when it comes to their own country and wellbeing, all they say is: "Welp... I guess I'll let them ravage my puny bum-hole. *shrug*"
Okay, faggot.
 
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