Feminism discussion thread

[Tilapia]

Term, not team. Why share the word Feminism with tranny enablers? Why allow yourself to be called the same thing? Perhaps assert.

??? I have already answered this. Calling myself a "feminist" or a "liberal" does not mean that I agree with every retarded thing that other people who call themselves feminists or liberals say. It just means that my views, as a whole. on a wide variety of issues, more broadly align with theirs than, say, people who call themselves antifeminist or conservative. Again, use your fucking brain and accept nuance. Is this clear enough for you, or are you going to continue to act like you do not have any reading comprehension.

 

[Freya]

the thread is open to moids but the same rules apply as they do to any thread. don't come in to derail and sperg. certain posters learned this the hard way

When debasement and debauchery is considered not only female empowerment, but demanded of your female children there should be no surprise of a backlash.

The fact that its being debated at all is farcical, and don't be surprised when men in dresses hijack female roles.

trannies are men's fault, not ours. all the laws that used to exist against cross dressing were written by them

Well this thread is going about as well as expected with zero moderation.

there is moderation. it's on people in here to put posters they don't like on ignore and discuss things. i put the spergs on ignore and they bother me no more

 

[Feline Supremacist]

trannies are men's fault, not ours. all the laws that used to exist against cross dressing were written by them

Trannies are men. Men need to do the needful; HOWEVER we need to do the same with troonmaidens and fag hags. Too many women think its edgy and progressive to keep them around.

 

[Stan]

Oh no, the possibility of military service while in the military! Can't have princess in a war zone. That's not the equality you're interested in, is it? Wanna play soldier but not be one, and you go online and say you're just as fit as men for it? What a joke.

I was happy to go, but there’s this thing that happens when you have kids where the idea of them in a combat zone makes you very upset. At least it does if you love your kids.

You're immune.

All women are when it comes to you. But rape is a process by which all men keep all women in a state of fear, so I have to worry about all the other guys.

 

[AgendaPoster]

don't you see, that's just bantz. just like the boys do when they 'joke' about raping and murdering women.

it's all fun and games!

That makes you a flavor of anime avi /pol/tard, basically.
The vast, vast majority of men don't talk about rape and murder, of women or men, and we don't joke about that either. It's the Nicole Fuentes faggots of web that do it.
Don't be like Nicole Fuentes maybe

 

[Lurker]

That makes you a flavor of anime avi /pol/tard, basically.
The vast, vast majority of men don't talk about rape and murder, of women or men, and we don't joke about that either. It's the Nicole Fuentes faggots of web that do it.
Don't be like Nicole Fuentes maybe

"not all men". sure, dude!

 

[AgendaPoster]

For me dealing with every penis having moid trying to checkmate the feminists into conceding our beliefs is insanely tiresome and doing it for this long with bad-faith users who are barely controlling themselves to avoid a thread an makes me side with Amberheard for TMD

Beliefs can be wrong and based on prejudice or bias. If they cannot withstand scrutiny, they're probably good to go.
Beliefs that are based on observable and measurable reality should be the basis, not those based on emotion, fear and resentment, nor those based on frustration or religious lunacy.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Beliefs can be wrong and based on prejudice or bias. If they cannot withstand scrutiny, they're probably good to go.
Beliefs that are based on observable and measurable reality should be the basis, not those based on emotion, fear and resentment, nor those based on frustration or religious lunacy.

It's not necessarily the beliefs, it's the man-hate thread denizens who can't withstand scruotiny kek. You have them making additional threads for "discussion", within a couple posts they're already complaining to the jannies to have the thread locked down and any dissent or bants removed and stickerbombing every post made by an ebil moid or moid sympathizer while also complaining about moids using stickers, but no it's YOU who's oversensitive and a borderline lolcow, not these DMZ escapees.

It's hilarious that @AmberHeardSupporter of all people is the only one here self-aware enough to admit they're just trolling and sneeding to blow off steam. I can respect that.

 

[Stan]

Beliefs can be wrong and based on prejudice or bias. If they cannot withstand scrutiny, they're probably good to go.
Beliefs that are based on observable and measurable reality should be the basis, not those based on emotion, fear and resentment, nor those based on frustration or religious lunacy.

This strikes me as obfuscation and misdirection.
There are some men who think women shouldn’t have the right to vote. There are men here who think it’s clever to snarl rape jokes at women when they run out of meaningful things to say. There are men here who want to JAQ off all day trying to annoy feminists to redefining the movement into something they’ll accept. But the only thing they’ll accept is toothless 3rd wave feminism, and only if we’ll be nice and quiet and agreeable about it.
These men don’t belong in a feminist discussion thread .

Also, late but @Otterly I believe you are standing somewhere around Frequently Yelled Statement #2: “Feminism has gone too far!” So you can refer to my answer to that.

 

[AgendaPoster]

These men don’t belong in a feminist discussion thread .

You'll just get another safe space where a man, Null, is protecting you from the evils of some 15 yrs old incel with an Internet connection.
Your feminist discussion will die down almost immediately if there is no critical opinion. What elevated, high IQ feminist opinions have you heard from Amber or Lidl? Their discourse is gutter level and terminology is fully imported from the chans. You on the other hand are a journalist with some studies, a family and mentions on NYT and other mainstream outlets.
Not even Dworkin would sink so low.

 

[Lurker]

You'll just get another safe space where a man, Null, is protecting you from the evils of some 15 yrs old incel with an Internet connection.
Your feminist discussion will die down almost immediately if there is no critical opinion. What elevated, high IQ feminist opinions have you heard from Amber or Lidl? Their discourse is gutter level and terminology is fully imported from the chans. You on the other hand are a journalist with some studies, a family and mentions on NYT and other mainstream outlets.
Not even Dworkin would sink so low.

no one cares, women want a space free of men, stop whining about how "there's no critical discussion" in a thread that isn't intended for it.

edit: this refers mostly to the man-hate thread, though with the piss-poor arguments presented by moids in this one, it somewhat applies

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Not even Dworkin would sink so low.

Dworkin is far too bouyant to sink even if she wanted to. Oil floats on water after all.

 

[derpherp2]

no one cares, women want a space free of men, stop whining about how "there's no critical discussion" in a thread that isn't intended for it.

edit: this refers mostly to the man-hate thread, though with the piss-poor arguments presented by moids in this one, it somewhat applies

Give them time maybe they'll figure it out eventually.
Also that's three times I've somehow ended up here following threads. Jesus fucking christ.


Annnnd that's a four.

 

[Stan]

You'll just get another safe space where a man, Null, is protecting you from the evils of some 15 yrs old incel with an Internet connection.
Your feminist discussion will die down almost immediately if there is no critical opinion.

I disagree, having an angry peanut gallery of pissed-off men making rape jokes and publicly doubting whether women should be allowed to vote/are responsible for all of society's problems has a cooling effect on feminist discussion. Women will tend to circle up and point the spears out when we feel surrounded by men who would like to see all of our rights terminated.

I'm getting irritated with the clueless moids sticking their oar in to post their opinions "as a man". The men are constantly redirecting the conversation to themselves, how women need to sell them on feminism like a mother cajoles her son into doing his chores. That feminism is "emasculating" so we feminists need to fight for our rights politely so as not to bruise the male ego. Or Middleman, who is just going around in circles demanding definitions that he's been given about 8 times already in hopes that the answer will change if he keeps being a pest.

And I'm getting tired of you acting the champion and apologist for a bunch of bad-faith actors shitting up this thread. Stop trying to excuse this shitty behavior.

What elevated, high IQ feminist opinions have you heard from Amber or Lidl?

More than I'm hearing out of you. The best I've collectively heard from the men here are weak-ass platitudes about how women need to be nicer to men when they're campaigning against male oppression and that we need to "work with" the men who are deliberately ignoring us. That at some later date, if we ask nicely enough, the men might just give us our rights... that's never going to happen. I have tried peaceful and diplomatic means to recruit ordinary men into the movement all my life, and it doesn't really work. So it seems that feminists may have to use the only language men understand: force. This is why feminists nowadays target exceedingly badly behaved public figures (e.g. Harvey Weinstein, Justin Roiland) and cancel them, annihilate their careers. Men who will not join the feminist movement will be trampled by it.

Their discourse is gutter level and terminology is fully imported from the chans. You on the other hand are a journalist with some studies, a family and mentions on NYT and other mainstream outlets.
Not even Dworkin would sink so low.

Don't tell me what Dworkin would or wouldn't do, smeg. You don't know shit about her.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

Before I get banned for having a penis, I want to just ask, do y'all's husbands know you're posting on here? Do they really let you shitpost about feminism instead of getting dinner on the table?

 

[Stan]

Before I get banned for having a penis, I want to just ask, do y'all's husbands know you're posting on here? Do they really let you shitpost about feminism instead of getting dinner on the table?

I warned you all that DMZ was necessary

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Or Middleman, who is just going around in circles demanding definitions that he's been given about 8 times already in hopes that the answer will change if he keeps being a pest.

Feminism needs to clean house. Its not my fault the Biden admin is fronting mutilated men as women in the name of Feminism. Why aren't Feminists telling him to stop? Why are they here bitching about men instead of writing in to NOW? Or their legislators? Or the White House?
I just want to know which Feminism is good and which is bad. Apparently pro-tranny Feminism is bad, but for some reason it's from the same leaders general Feminism has urged us to vote for for decades. So confusing. So which one should I support?

And I'm getting tired of you acting the champion and apologist for a bunch of bad-faith actors shitting up this thread. Stop trying to excuse this shitty behavior.

You don't control the forums, the board or this thread. Criticism is discussion. Use Ignore. Try Ovarit. Start a group chat.

 

[Lurker]

Feminism needs to clean house. Its not my fault the Biden admin is fronting mutilated men as women in the name of Feminism. Why aren't Feminists telling him to stop? Why are they here bitching about men instead of writing in to NOW? Or their legislators? Or the White House?
I just want to know which Feminism is good and which is bad. Apparently pro-tranny Feminism is bad, but for some reason it's from the same leaders general Feminism has urged us to vote for for decades. So confusing. So which one should I support?

You don't control the forums, the board or this thread. Criticism is discussion. Use Ignore. Try Ovarit. Start a group chat.

lol feminism doesn't need to do anything, you just need to sit down and shut up. the nerve of moids to tell women what to do with their own movement kek. and we've answered your question like 9 times now, not our fault you're cripplingly autistic and unable to grasp nuance.

asking the same question 9 times after having it answered isn't discussion or criticism, it's just you being a dumb moid. have an original thought for once in your life.

 

[Stan]

Feminism needs to clean house.

Look, I don't walk into your shul and start rearranging the furniture, so how about you BTFO and learn about feminism instead of marching in with mud on your boots telling us what we need to change to make you happy, smeg?

You don't control the forums, the board or this thread. Criticism is discussion. Use Ignore. Try Ovarit. Start a group chat.

WTF does it say about the intellectual rigor of your comments (e.g. "you're immune [to being raped]") if you are advising other people who are trying to use the thread for its designated purpose to ignore you? GTFO

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

WTF does it say about the intellectual rigor of your comments (e.g. "you're immune [to being raped]") if you are advising other people who are trying to use the thread for its designated purpose to ignore you? GTFO

Maybe if you want indisputable intellectual rigor you'd be better off staying in your existing scrote-free hugbox thread instead of trying (and failing) to create a second identical one. You've been arguing with this guy over absolutely nothing for 15 pages, yes I counted, gimme my puzzle pieces now. I'm sure it's painful to accept advice from a moid but ignoring him is good advice since you seem actually frustrated.