Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

I kinda doubt it, the Middle East is full of stuff like that from decades of outsiders supporting various factions, everyone backed Iraq against Iran for years once and nothing changed except a million dead. I predict a similar outcome with the Russo-Ukrainian War, as neither side happens to be military geniuses in this scenario.
To be clear, when I say "Russian by Proxy Oligarch" I very much mean "Some guy in local power selling out a warehouse of surplus hoping nobody will notice" not "Deliberately passing off ordinance via a 3rd party"
 
I kinda doubt it, the Middle East is full of stuff like that from decades of outsiders supporting various factions, everyone backed Iraq against Iran for years once and nothing changed except a million dead. I predict a similar outcome with the Russo-Ukrainian War, as neither side happens to be military geniuses in this scenario.
The lines on the map have changed quite a lot. Russia has already taken about 20% of Ukraine's territory and 75% of its natural resources. But it's exactly the same as the Iran-Iraq War. You're funny, please keep posting.
 
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When discussing the claims of either Russia or Ukraine being the source of weapons and rockets used by Hamas, please remember that:

1. The Mideast has been awash in weapons for over 50 years, and has had three major civil wars in the past decade where arms and ammunition of every type have been able to be stolen or lost without any kind of tracking and change hands multiple times over. Any one of them could easily wind up in Gaza with the right combination of opportunity, money, and ideological sympathy to Hamas.

2. Iran has openly boasted about supplying arms to Hamas and other terrorists, and they have quite the catalog to offer. Not only their own surplus of bought or captured weapons, but their own domestic made items which include copies of the AK-47, the AR-15/M16, and pretty much all of H&K's pre-1980 product line.

3. Hamas themselves have their own array of home-made rockets that they've built for decades, including ones built out of fucking water pipers. Because the Gazans are barbarian niggers that would rather kill Jews than have a functioning civil infrastructure.
 
To be clear, when I say "Russian by Proxy Oligarch" I very much mean "Some guy in local power selling out a warehouse of surplus hoping nobody will notice" not "Deliberately passing off ordinance via a 3rd party"
It's possible but you'd probably have to dig a bit to make it believable and distribute older models for plausible deniability. Seeing Hamas and Hezbollah with AK-12 rifles and Ratnik gear for example wouldn't exactly be subtle after all.
The lines on the map have changed quite a lot. Russia has already taken about 20% of Ukraine's territory and 75% of its natural resources. But it's exactly the same as the Iran-Iraq War. You're funny, please keep posting.
I said similar not exact, read the fucking post. They've been pushed back quite a bit though but if Ukraine wants to throw foreign vehicles at minefields and trenches with no game plan because "they'll send more" well that's on them. Definitely can rule out regime change for the time being though, which was actually the reason Iraq invaded Iran in the first place I think.
 
Is there any actual evidence that Russia is supporting Hamas or is that just conjecture because it's fashionable to hate anything east of Berlin today? Thank you social media!
Hamas is tied at the hip to the Iranians. Russian policy since Hamas got power in Gaza has generally been to attempt to mediate between the Fatah (PLO) government in the west bank and Hamas in Gaza. Russia occasionally talks to Hamas, but they tend to have more confidence and influence in the Palestinian Authority government in the west bank.

Relations between Russia and Israel are actually ok. Most of the people trying to pretend that Russia was somehow responsible for the Hamas attack on Israel tend to be in the American and European media.
 
Relations between Russia and Israel are actually ok. Most of the people trying to pretend that Russia was somehow responsible for the Hamas attack on Israel tend to be in the American and European media.
In fact most Israelis blame the conflict on Ukraine and the USA, as that’s apparently one of Hamas’ sources of weapons.
 
I'm going to imagine most Ukrainian's will turn down the cash in exchange for keeping their legs.
Combine this with the talks of Ukraine going after male service age refugees with legal threats though - So you've got one letter saying "Hey we have a support program to help cover your costs to return to your country right now" and another letter saying "Hey, we're collaborating with Ukraine on an extradition request for you a few months from now". Lotta folks gonna feel like they've got no choice.
 
He is the Ex-Spokeswoman though. He says he's been reassigned to the Army in Kiev. I suspect they told him to take the costume off.
Yes he's been banned from wearing the territorial army uniform and his 're-assignment' (the irony) likely consists of staying in a cheap hotel until he can book a flight back to the US. I think threatening to murder a sitting US Senator was a bit much even in clown world, but at least he had fun while it lasted.
 
Aren't they paying north of € 10,000 to sneak out at this point? Or at any rate males of military age were, wonder if they've started corralling women of military age now, too.

Women 18-60 with any kind of medical or pharmaceutical role cannot leave the country. These same women had to start registering with the Ministry of Defense for military service as of October 1st.
 
I'm going to imagine most Ukrainian's will turn down the cash in exchange for keeping their legs.

There are 4 conditions for this grant. None of them say you cant come back.


Just end this suffering already. So many people dying for land and cities either side will never be able to hold. If Russia pushes much further its just going to be endless guerilla warfare against them and if Ukraine pushes into Donbass and Crimea its the same. Its just a slaughter of people. I hope they can wake up.
 
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