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Stop Blaming Women For Adult Men's Loneliness​

I’m going to keep this short. OK, not short, but as short as I can when considering all the related intersections.

Many professors and high-level thinkers of all political persuasions talk about how lonely men are. A few are even pointing out how dangerous lonely men can be.

They’re not wrong, and the crisis of male mental health is an indispensable subject, which is especially true if you’re raising boys.

Even if you aren’t in a parental role, we can agree that men deserve an emotionally satisfying life. Everyone does. Society has damaged men and boys by confining their emotional experiences through shame and violence. Addiction rates and rates of death by suicide or accidental overdose are shockingly high among boys and men, and it’s genuinely disturbing.

Yet, social media continues to comment on how hard it is for some men to meet women on dating apps and the role this plays in the male mental health crisis. The framing of these clips implies that not having access to the women they want to date is traumatizing men and is the primary contributor to male loneliness.

Scott Galloway cites a stat wherein men have to swipe 1000 times on dating apps to end up with one in-person coffee date.

I’m not saying his data is wrong (though I haven’t seen it with my eyes). I’m saying the recent emphasis on women’s rejection (orthe appearance of rejection) as one of the root problems of this crisis is dangerous. It’s a lie.

Here's why we must stop blaming women for adult men's loneliness.​

1. The myth breeds frustration & anger against women​

The male loneliness problem exists because men have taught boys and other men to push intimate and meaningful friendships away. This has been happening for generations.

Note on the video: Galloway contextualizes the dating aspects well, but the viral bits from his interviews are often edited to emphasize parts that feel very blame-y toward women when removed from their context. Galloway does great work drawing attention to the crisis of male mental health. In no way do I blame him for the situation.

Homophobia and bizarre-o mainstream standards of masculinity prevent cis-het men from having an intimate circle of friends — men or women — who support them. So, they don’t have guys who boost them up, who show up for them when times are hard, who come over to hang out on a lonely Friday after a breakup, or when they’ve lost a job. And that is painful.

There are exceptions to this, of course. Men in recovery programs often form deep, powerful bonds with one another. My friend Tom, sober for decades, says in many ways he’s lucky he was addicted because it gave him the opportunity to form friendships with men who show up for him. Recovery programs gave him a framework that had opportunities to show up for other men.

Tragically, most men haven’t been encouraged to do this, and they pass the tradition of masculine isolation on to their sons.

2. Enforced male isolation actively harms women, too​

For generations, American men have been told their wives and girlfriends should be their sole source of emotional support and intimacy. Maybe not overtly, with actual words, but they get the message. For men in the USA, talking to a buddy about your deep fears, core wounds, traumas, and disappointments is not manly. For many generations, it was inconceivable.

And do you know what that means on a practical level?

That means women are not just cis-het men’s life partners and the mothers of their children. We are their only real emotionally present friends, their therapists, their 911 emergency service operators during crises, their career counselors, their workplace relationship advisors, and even their drug and alcohol counselors (until they get into recovery) if they’re misusing substances.

Women are all of that, on top of being personal shoppers, housekeepers, personal assistants, laundresses, sexy fantasy women, and night nurses for their children whom we likely gave birth to, among many other things.

Obviously, not all men or relationships are like this. Many men also give richly to their wives and girlfriends and offer the same level of service in return: friendship, laundry, personal chef-ery, warm shoulders to cry into when times get tough, and even the occasional foot massage. Those of us with good husbands and boyfriends are grateful.

But, the difference in how men’s emotional needs are met in a relationship is still vastly different from women's.

Women probably have at least one non-romantic friend they can call when they need to have a deep, emotional talk or when they need intimate advice.

Society has (literally and figuratively) beaten the vulnerability required for those types of friendships out of American men. Their ability to be emotionally open gets covered by scar tissue after years of teasing or physical harm when they show “weakness,” it’s no wonder they’re suffering.

When I see meme after meme, interview after interview, intelligent men and some women who are experts in the subject say, “Men are lonely, and the high standards of successful women are the problem!” I am enraged.

3. This is not a ‘women problem’​

It may be a tech problem, it may be a modern society problem, it may be a masculinity problem, it may be a parenting problem, it may be an economic problem, it may even be a problem with modern education — and I think it is probably all of them.

But it is not a women problem.

Sure, if a woman tells a man not to have intimate friendships or mocks him when he is vulnerable, that’s her fault. If a woman is being homophobic, that’s on her. And, yes, women complied with patriarchal masculinity for generations, too. They didn’t have much of a choice.

However, we’ve been growing, changing, and expecting more from ourselves and our female friends for a long time. Nearly every woman I know would LOVE for men to have deeper friendships with guys and active relationships with therapists. They’d love for their husbands to come home from a weekend retreat with his buddies feeling emotionally refreshed and healthy.

So stop — please stop — centering conversations about male loneliness and the crisis of masculinity around the perception of mass rejection by women. It’s not accurate, and it’s not fair.

4. It misinforms and distracts from the crisis​

We urgently need to support the effort toend the male mental health crisis. If you are the mom of a son like I am, you have a duty to help him build a healthier emotional lifethan his father or grandfather may have had; one with rich and deep friendships, one where he can feel safe seeking help when needed. One where addictive substances or other maladaptive habits aren’t the only tools he has for dealing with trauma or emotional pain.

We are never under any obligation to date more guys or to go against our intuition about giving men access to our time, bodies, resources, or emotional selves. Even if we did, it wouldn’t help.

Because male loneliness is an inside job: inside masculinity, inside men in general, and inside the individual man or boy who struggles.
 
Scott Galloway cites a stat wherein men have to swipe 1000 times on dating apps to end up with one in-person coffee date.

I’m not saying his data is wrong (though I haven’t seen it with my eyes). I’m saying the recent emphasis on women’s rejection (or the appearance of rejection) as one of the root problems of this crisis is dangerous. It’s a lie.
Women are rejecting men and leaving them to die alone and childless.

Women most affected.
 
Women are rejecting men and leaving them to die alone and childless.

Women most affected.
It's socially/legally crucifying any attempt rather than simply rejection. Sometimes an attempt doesn't even have to be made. Look at all the bullshit rape allegations.

I've stopped pretending that women and men are equal. As far as agency goes, most women are only slightly more aware than animals.
 
It's true tho. Women aren't responsible to get your lazy autistic ass out of the house and away from your computer.
A man approached a woman in a Starbucks for friendly conversation, and the SB employees intervened, thinking the guy must be some kind of creep. Thanks to feminists, every man is a potential rapist. That's why some men purposely separate themselves from anything traditionally masculine, so women think they are safe. It's why some men have trouble approaching women, or have just given up. It is correct that it's not all women's fault, but it is completely the fault of feminists.
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help him build a healthier emotional lifethan his father or grandfather may have had

Both had access to cheap tobacco and beer, and a place to go after work every day to enjoy them with other men before coming home. They self-medicated their blues away in an all male environment for an hour or so an evening as the norm, not to mention many professional men drank and smoked in pubs at lunchtime. You'd have to be a billionaire to replicate that now, and you'd still be struggling to find a pub that doesn't think it's a restaurant that serves drinks on the side, decored into bland tedium to appeal to women.

If you remove status, earning potential, and each and every social outlet to appease an imaginary new female customer base, a fistful of cracked opiates and never ending video games start to develop an appeal. Quite where this crazy woman got the idea men are demanding to fuck her is entirely besides the point; perhaps she knows a lot of trannies?
 
1. The myth breeds frustration & anger against women
The male loneliness problem exists because men have taught boys and other men to push intimate and meaningful friendships away. This has been happening for generations.

Note on the video: Galloway contextualizes the dating aspects well, but the viral bits from his interviews are often edited to emphasize parts that feel very blame-y toward women when removed from their context. Galloway does great work drawing attention to the crisis of male mental health. In no way do I blame him for the situation.

Homophobia and bizarre-o mainstream standards of masculinity prevent cis-het men from having an intimate circle of friends — men or women — who support them. So, they don’t have guys who boost them up, who show up for them when times are hard, who come over to hang out on a lonely Friday after a breakup, or when they’ve lost a job. And that is painful.

There are exceptions to this, of course. Men in recovery programs often form deep, powerful bonds with one another. My friend Tom, sober for decades, says in many ways he’s lucky he was addicted because it gave him the opportunity to form friendships with men who show up for him. Recovery programs gave him a framework that had opportunities to show up for other men.

Tragically, most men haven’t been encouraged to do this, and they pass the tradition of masculine isolation on to their sons.
False, society has a problem where any sort of male bonding has the soulless husks see them as gay; this hasn't made men push intimate and meaningful friendships away, we just don't broadcast them like others do. Because intimate and meaningful doesn't require fireworks and fanfare, it's between you and them; nor do we tend to have large groups of "friends" either. I can count my friends on one hand; these are the people where we invite each other to family events, weddings, use each other for support when relatives die or other problems, and have no problem giving a hug and saying "I love you man," all without an trace of sexual intent. But we don't do it everywhere and it's not a spectacle, nor have these idiots bothered to talk to any men about it and thus manifest their preconceived notions into their work. As for being encouraged to do this, it's not something to be encouraged per se, it just happens naturally and only needs to be pressed onto others or kids if there are signs of shyness or social awkwardness; but not something where everyone needs to have "the talk" or whatever. There's also the sense that men are less likely to want to burden others with their problems; especially if our friends are married and have children of their own, we recognize that their family takes precedence (as they should) and don't want to bother them with "I can't get a date, boo hoo hoo."

2. Enforced male isolation actively harms women, too
For generations, American men have been told their wives and girlfriends should be their sole source of emotional support and intimacy. Maybe not overtly, with actual words, but they get the message. For men in the USA, talking to a buddy about your deep fears, core wounds, traumas, and disappointments is not manly. For many generations, it was inconceivable.

And do you know what that means on a practical level?

That means women are not just cis-het men’s life partners and the mothers of their children. We are their only real emotionally present friends, their therapists, their 911 emergency service operators during crises, their career counselors, their workplace relationship advisors, and even their drug and alcohol counselors (until they get into recovery) if they’re misusing substances.

Women are all of that, on top of being personal shoppers, housekeepers, personal assistants, laundresses, sexy fantasy women, and night nurses for their children whom we likely gave birth to, among many other things.

Obviously, not all men or relationships are like this. Many men also give richly to their wives and girlfriends and offer the same level of service in return: friendship, laundry, personal chef-ery, warm shoulders to cry into when times get tough, and even the occasional foot massage. Those of us with good husbands and boyfriends are grateful.

But, the difference in how men’s emotional needs are met in a relationship is still vastly different from women's.

Women probably have at least one non-romantic friend they can call when they need to have a deep, emotional talk or when they need intimate advice.

Society has (literally and figuratively) beaten the vulnerability required for those types of friendships out of American men. Their ability to be emotionally open gets covered by scar tissue after years of teasing or physical harm when they show “weakness,” it’s no wonder they’re suffering.

When I see meme after meme, interview after interview, intelligent men and some women who are experts in the subject say, “Men are lonely, and the high standards of successful women are the problem!” I am enraged.
You've never hung out with dudes who decide "It's 11PM, I'm bored, wanna cruise?" And you just drive around aimlessly and talk about whatever. Not awkward forced conversation about weather or work; but shit like you're gonna propose, or you were gonna keep it a secret but we're having a kid, or your mom's in the hospital and it's not looking good, etc etc. Or church, or anything possibly seen as a male social club, because we don't talk about that shit with just anyone. Again, no fanfare or fireworks, this shit isn't gonna be out in the open. And we turn to wives and such because that's part of the package, but some still go to their male friends, because that's what they'll need. And no, we're not gonna fucking tell you about it either.

3. This is not a ‘women problem’
It may be a tech problem, it may be a modern society problem, it may be a masculinity problem, it may be a parenting problem, it may be an economic problem, it may even be a problem with modern education — and I think it is probably all of them.

But it is not a women problem.

Sure, if a woman tells a man not to have intimate friendships or mocks him when he is vulnerable, that’s her fault. If a woman is being homophobic, that’s on her. And, yes, women complied with patriarchal masculinity for generations, too. They didn’t have much of a choice.

However, we’ve been growing, changing, and expecting more from ourselves and our female friends for a long time. Nearly every woman I know would LOVE for men to have deeper friendships with guys and active relationships with therapists. They’d love for their husbands to come home from a weekend retreat with his buddies feeling emotionally refreshed and healthy.
You're correct, partially, it's a societal problem, and women are half of that, they share part of the burden as much as men do. Them being given access to endless attention from the world has gone to their head and boosted their narcissism; that is part of the issue and specifically one aspect of the problem that is female centric. You're again missing that women don't get the same pageantry that their female friendships do; and I don't know why the fuck you'd want "active relationships with therapists." That's a sign that there's more wrong with you than whatever males you find yourself around.

4. It misinforms and distracts from the crisis
We urgently need to support the effort toend the male mental health crisis. If you are the mom of a son like I am, you have a duty to help him build a healthier emotional lifethan his father or grandfather may have had; one with rich and deep friendships, one where he can feel safe seeking help when needed. One where addictive substances or other maladaptive habits aren’t the only tools he has for dealing with trauma or emotional pain.

We are never under any obligation to date more guys or to go against our intuition about giving men access to our time, bodies, resources, or emotional selves. Even if we did, it wouldn’t help.

Because male loneliness is an inside job: inside masculinity, inside men in general, and inside the individual man or boy who struggles.
Woman claims it's her responsibility to make better men, but then decides she has no obligation to help men. While I can't in good conscious say you belong in a home the moment you become infirm (because homes are fucking horrible); you better hope your children don't resent you or your insanity and do so.
 
I remember having an argument in the comments of some io9 article a few years back that was “shipping” Captain America and Bucky, and I said it was gross to fetishize male friendships like that. Lotta people jumped on my ass to bitch, which just showed me that it’s gonna get harder and harder to be emotionally open with friends, lest people think you’re touching weiners…
 
I’m going to keep this short. OK, not short, but as short as I can when considering all the related intersections.

Don't start articles this way. It's a surefire way to make readers skim the article because they believe you'll be blathering. Someone didn't pay enough attention in English 101. :roll:
Scott Galloway cites a stat wherein men have to swipe 1000 times on dating apps to end up with one in-person coffee date.

I think that's overinflated stats. Unless they are swiping past a lot of trannies. I think that could be a factor.
Homophobia and bizarre-o mainstream standards of masculinity prevent cis-het men from having an intimate circle of friends — men or women — who support them. So, they don’t have guys who boost them up, who show up for them when times are hard, who come over to hang out on a lonely Friday after a breakup, or when they’ve lost a job. And that is painful.

I'm not male so I can't say I know 100%. But guys do have friends right? If you're afraid of being called a homo for hanging out with your bros when you're down then I don't know what to tell you. No one thinks you're gay for that. Have a beer and cry it out. You aren't gay because you have feelings.
For generations, American men have been told their wives and girlfriends should be their sole source of emotional support and intimacy.

I don't feel that your significant other should be your best friend. Maybe if you were friends before that or something. But you shouldn't just be automatic besties because you're dating or married. If you cloister yourself around one person and rely on them only for support then you may be left out in the cold if the relationship goes south. Don't isolate yourself like that.
But it is not a women problem.

It's not. It's not my fault or any other woman's that you are lonery. I feel like society has changed a lot very quickly. Social media's connectivity is mostly an illusion. It's not a replacement for face to face contact. Everyone is so used to dating apps and Facebook statuses ect... That they forget how to connect irl. You're gonna strike out a lot offline too before you find the right person. It's just that online it comes with less baggage because you aren't directly facing the person. A failed match in an app is just a failed match in an app. You can forget it exists and move on.

Well maybe if men would just step up and be 6' 4" millionaire supermodels, they'd be good enough to catch the interest of a fat dumpy unemployed 40 year old single mother.

This is the same problem with the sexes reversed. Women just get dumped on for being single at a certain age or having kids while not married or in a relationship. Maybe we should just focus on the reason why people are so disconnected from each other in a world that's more connected than it ever has been before.
 
No one asked for a compilation of your retarded opinions. Stop trying to add noise to a conversation. I don't care if a woman has an input here, but I'd rather it be an intelligent woman than your average she-brainlet who thinks her dumb opinion is worth anything.

You clearly don't understand the problems men are facing, yet you feel it necessary to share your uninformed opinion on the matter. You are a sterling example of what's wrong with modern women and their entitled behavior.
 
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