Cogent's CEO is directly involved in trying to censor the Kiwi Farms

[Edict of Expulsion]

You can’t fix a legal problem with technical solutions. This was the hard lesson of Napster and the Pirate Bay and similar sites and services.

 

[dumbledore]

Total pollack Death

If not for Poles, you would't be able to access KF on clearnet for months, you ungrateful faggot.
Tell your American pussy companies to host KF, lets see how it turns out.

 

[Scotched up Scott]

And then he is instantly dismissed as a vexatious litigant and our enemies become emboldened even more by the fact that Null is now legally unable, even if he somehow acquires the necessary funds, to retaliate legally.

Not the winning play.

Yah that’s sadly how it would go. Null would file prose the judge would find the most minute error then toss the case and label him a vexatious litigant. Truely retard privilege is strong and well in current year.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

My solution would be to dissolve the KiwiFarms and have the users (or anyone who wants) make their own websites to discuss their particular cows.

The less concentrated and less related to the KF, the better. For example, imagine if you had one website for Greer, one for Fatrick, one for Dong Gone. It would be harder to use the same old "This website has killed people" argument because it would just be a site discussing the individual complaining that their public posts are being read.

Life is too short to spend it fighting trannies that are going to kill themselves regardless of whether or not KF exists. Even the content we get here has taken a tumble since most of the highlights are nothing but trannies doing tranny shit.

This is just my opinion though, I barely browse the Internet anymore besides a few boards here due to how shit it has become. I already downloaded everything that I wanted to keep from the Internet since it seems it will get even worse.

KF doesn't need to die before you can set up your own splinter forum or static pages for specific cows. Just do it. I recommend doing it anonymously.

You can’t fix a legal problem with technical solutions. This was the hard lesson of Napster and the Pirate Bay and similar sites and services.

Yet we can pirate pretty much everything decades later, with even more convenience (streaming), despite multi-billion dollar industries pushing back against it. I think Null did explain that pirate sites don't have the angry tranny complaint volume problem.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

There's a reason why every article says that KF is "mainly" about harassing troons or the LGBTQ+(meaning troons). I haven't seen a thread started on this forum about a trans person being normal and not being weird or crazy on twitter or the internet with a history of weird, sketchy or outright illegal behavior.

Well, that's because there is nothing funny and they don't need a thread. What we need would be articles thrown in the Thunderdome about how X troon was a pillar of society and spent all of its time in a proper non-tech or education job, was an active volunteer in an area that had nothing to do with troonism and you couldn't find any evidence in its past of being a sex pest. They just don't exist.

 

[Edict of Expulsion]

I think Null did explain that pirate sites don't have the angry tranny complaint volume problem.

The benefit of this site is that it is legal under US law though so actually going to legal route could be beneficial.

Hell, at least precedents would be set and the kike nigger faggots at the EFF would/should take notice.

Lawfare is the real retard war in the 21st century, prove me wrong.

 

[GenociderSyo]

There actually are articles in there from pro-trans sites. They just seem to choose the insane people even in their positive articles.

Someone asks something earlier I did not see a response to. Would losing cogent have an effect on tor? And is it possible to use these isps you have a positive relationship as intermediaries since cogent won't speak to you itself?

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

if there was a campaign for farmers to call FIRE and EFF and express their frustration at kiwifarms not being represented, would that be considered harassment? would it be beneficial at all?

 

[dick brain]

Plot twist: what if it has nothing to do with Dong Long-Gone and Dave Schaeffer is just a Roblox fart clown gooner?

 

[CockPockets]

What the fuck is josh supposed to do? No government agency seems to want to help him. He doesn't seem to have the money to fund proper legal actions. He is a complete outsider to these people that Pink Team massages with words to go against the forum. How is this supposed to be overcome?

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

It's already been said, but seeing if anyone with a platform will cover our story and what freaks like LFJ are trying to do would help. LFJ is like a vampire, he'll melt when exposed to the sunlight.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

if there was a campaign for farmers to call FIRE and EFF and express their frustration at kiwifarms not being represented, would that be considered harassment?

If we did that? Yes. Anything we do is considered harassment. I feel like people in this thread are making the mistake of assuming our enemies will adhere to normal standards of truth when trying to get us taken down. "this splinter site is only for 1 tranny so surely they cant say we're bullying them into suicide now!" They can and they will. These people don't just have disregard for the truth, they actively and vehemently oppose reality because it doesn't cater to their whims. There is no gotcha argument that will suddenly free us from their scrutiny.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Embrace the Greer null. Become the legal pest that files pro se suits all day just to fuck with them. You may even have grounds for a tortious interference case that would stop them from just dismissing it out of hand. Would be a funny way to tie it all together

You can't file pro se for a company. They are targeting KF, which belongs to Lolcow LLC so it would have to be Lolcow LLC filing the lawsuits. This has always been the issues with people like Greer. They can sue the site pro se, but Null has to hire a lawyer cause he can not represent his own LLC.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Boy I can’t wait for the EFF to either sit there and do nothing or otherwise publish another spineless mushmouthed article.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Why not just rebrand and re-form? Keep the site. Change all the necessary shit. Convert it all over to a trusted party that only Josh trusts? Like burn the barn down say "Kiwifarms died" then rebuild new better barn next to it and relaunch as KiwiForever or some shit. Make them start the process all over?

 

[Harvey Danger]

Why not just rebrand and re-form? Keep the site. Change all the necessary shit. Convert it all over to a trusted party that only Josh trusts? Like burn the barn down say "Kiwifarms died" then rebuild next to it and relaunch as KiwiForever or some shit. Make them start all over?

Because they'd spend 5 minutes updating the links and brand name in the complaint template, then go right back to the same playbook, with the same effectiveness.

This is not a marketing problem.

 

[The Silent Perjority]

UK.
.net site is already down.

 

[NerdShamer]

Not even porn but they keep calling this child porn when it's a fat kid watching a fucking shock video
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/my-video-about-chris-chan.151304/

CEO is probably an closeted pedo or something.

I'm not sure if deleting them will even satisfy Cogent because they refuse to talk to me, and the CEO is directly involved in trying to censor the forum.

Why should you delete them? Most of this shit is voluntarily posted and was originally posted elsewhere. And also, their CEO is trying to hide the fact that he's sexually attracted to watching retards fuck

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Because they'd spend 5 minutes updating the links and brand name in the complaint template, then go right back to the same playbook, with the same effectiveness.

This is not a marketing problem.

I mean less marketing and more like "Okay. Fine. I shut down Kiwifarms" and then all of a sudden here comes Kiwiforever which is "ran by a Josh trustee."
They would have to re-file everything wouldn't they? It took Dong Gone 7+ years to reach this outcome with a lot of it riding on the farms' reputation to gain any traction with ISPs.
If we kill the reputation. Dongless Douglas will have to start all over.

 

[Realistic]

two cents:

I've witnessed the transformation of the internet from a free platform to a tightly controlled and censored platform. What used to constitute as "normal" now constitutes as "offensive" or "appalling" and I don't know if it's because of the "right to forget" or Donald Trump or even because the troublesome people who used to get punished now run the internet, all I know is that free speech is under attack. You can't say stuff and then say that "I didn't do it" or twist reality around to make it look like the Kiwi Farms is a dangerous forum. If you said and did certain things on the internet then yeah, you're going to be talked about here whether you're trans or not.

Nobody should NOT be accountable. I've witnessed people do terrible things and get away with it due to influence/power or other factors and just because Amazon controls your internet, does it mean you should get away with it? Should you get away with exploiting children and indulging in fetishes because of someone's sexual status? Kiwi Farms may be a humor and gossip forum but to me, it's accountability because all it does is mirror behaviors you've done. Why do you get pissed off with your own actions? We're not making you do stuff, we're not putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. No, you are doing it yourself, God gave you free will.

The fact that this site has an unfair negative reputation is unfair and unjust and if people are going to use this site as a case example to censor the internet then we should be worried. Why? Because it means that the 1st amendment doesn't mean anything. That free speech is just going to be a saying for "you can say nearly anything just don't say stuff about who we protect". There's a reason why the United Stated of America is the way it is, it is because of the 1st amendment. Just imagine if we were like Canada and we blamed Kiwi Farms instead of 4chan for nearly every single thing.

I know I'm rambling at this point but I am deeply disappointed in people calling for a ban against this site. While I may not be interested in the drama here nor can I make a good lolcow thread (yet), I am hoping that this site prevails because this site shows the true nature of humanity even though I disagree with some stuff in the Autistic Thunderdome.

I'll be praying for the internet as a whole. I'll be praying that Kiwi Farms prevails and I'll be praying for all of those who don't know God at all.