'I'm so upset': This Gen Z worker went absolutely viral for slamming the 9-to-5 work day - Complains it leaves no time for friends, dating, working out. But does she have a point?

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Sabina Wex
Thu, October 26, 2023 at 5:00 PM EDT

Gen Z have officially entered the working world — and they aren’t too excited about it.
New grad Brielle posted a viral TikTok last week that has divided the internet. She explained through tears that her first 9-to-5 role leaves her no time to do anything but eat, sleep and shower. Brielle has to leave the house at 7:30 each morning to commute into New York for her in-office marketing job and doesn’t arrive back until at least 6:15 p.m.

“I’m so upset,” she says in the video, explaining that it’s not her job, just the 9-to-5 schedule itself. “How do you have time for friends? How do you have time to meet a guy?”
Her video blew up online, drawing some sharp responses initially. But many other replies were sympathetic, recalling the difficult first days of settling into a new lifestyle: “I had a crisis when I got my first 9-to-5 job. Literally I couldn’t believe this was life.”
So is Brielle complaining? Or is the 9-to-5 lifestyle really that bad?

40-hour work week​

In a follow-up to her viral video, Brielle explains how she feels about work: “That’s the whole 9-to-5 system: pushing the same rock up the hill.”
Brielle’s not wrong: the 40-hour work week was designed to be Sisyphean. It began in the Industrial Revolution to create schedules for assembly line workers, but in the late 1800s, 70 hours would have been common, says Benjamin Hunnicutt, a historian who studies the history of leisure and work, told NPR.
That was slowly whittled down until the 40-hour week became the norm during the Great Depression until it was enshrined in law in the 1940s. Economists and analysts expected the week would continue to shrink — John Maynard Keynes actually predicted that technological advances could see the workweek shrink to just 15 hours by 2030.
But that never happened. In fact, now, all workers are expected to fit into this assembly line mold — even if they’re working in marketing office jobs, like Brielle.
There has been a push for the four-day work week, which advocates like 4 Day Week Global argue increases worker efficiency. It hasn’t quite caught on in the U.S., but the recent “summer of strikes” has shown that workers of all ages do want to see drastic changes from their employers.

Poor equity​

In another follow-up video, Brielle explains that she wants to see a structural change to the 9-to-5 work schedule because it imposes inflexibility on workers that don’t always make it up the chain of command.
“It’s not fair that the only people that are benefiting [from 9-to-5] are the people that either run the corporations and can make their own schedules, so they just pile on the work to people that are less fortunate,” she says.
And while many would argue those workers are fairly compensated for their time, growing wages simply haven’t kept up with inflation. If you look at the minimum wage, you can see this is true: 1980’s minimum hourly wage was $3.10; today, it’s $7.25. This may sound like a big jump, but inflation means that a dollar in the 1980 is worth $3.68 in today’s purchasing power. If minimum wage accurately reflected inflation and cost of living, it would now be $11.40.
We’ve already seen trends responding to this, including Gen Z’s penchant for what they call “lazy girl jobs,” which require minimal effort while taking in a decent salary. When their paychecks aren’t covering both rent and groceries, it’s not hard to understand why employees are resisting the system.

Work-life balance​

Considering work and her commute take up nearly 11 hours of her day, Brielle has a point when she says she has limited time — and energy — for a social life after work. She adds that it’s even worse if you have kids or any other dependents.
But this lack of life is starting to see pushback from people like Brielle. A recent ResumeLab survey discovered that 73% of Gen Z will pick a job with a better work-life balance over a higher salary.
Brielle’s TikTok sums up the general feelings toward work culture right now. And it appears it’s not just Gen Z who feels this way, with many older workers agreeing with her in their comments. And perhaps these older workers would have said something earlier, but they didn’t have TikTok to share their message far and wide.
 
She’s an example of someone who does what society tells her to do and is unhappy with the results. So now that she knows the rat race is shit, it’s now up to her to decide where to go from here. That’s what being an adult is about. She’s a woman so she has the ultimate backup plan of being a stay at home wife and mother.

It’s easy to laugh at yet another zoomer chick who feels she was she was going to make lots of money doing as little work as possible while riding on as many cocks as possible but after watching the video I feel she’s the type that does just want to have a family so I’m a lot more sympathetic here.
 
i havent met a zoomer who doesnt touch their cellphone at least once in a 5 minute span. the kiwis saying most jobs can be finished in a shorter timeframe are also wrong; kids today lack skills and basic problem solving abilities to finish a complex set of tasks. you have to hold these retarded faggots' hands all the time, everytime because they forget the shit once they clock out. this kid lacks skills, and she knows it.

if anything the switch needs to be longer hours and a permanent switch to hourly pay from salary. tasks need a hard deadline, and a vitality curve to fire everyone who cant hack it.
 
I'm sure this thread's going to be swarmed with variations of "suck it up zoomie zoom, I worked 25 hours a day when I was your age!", but she's kind of got a point. When the 40-hour workweek was conceived, it was assumed you would have a wife to take care of the home, with possibly older kids pitching in. Now if you have a spouse at all they have to work too to keep their heads above water, and good luck putting your kids to work without getting CPS and OSHA so far up your ass you'll end up with papercuts on the back of your throat. It's no wonder so many couples are getting divorced these days, the men feel like they're getting a raw deal when they have to go to some shit job and still have to pitch in for at least 50% of the housework, the women feel like they're getting burned because they have to somehow juggle childcare, housework, and having a career. But I somehow doubt any journalist is going to open that particular can of worms.
You have a point, but the problem here is more about purchasing power, not being busy for 8 hours a day which is what the person in the article is complaining about. Now I wouldn't mind spending much less than 8 hours at work 5 days a week, but that still leaves me with quite a lot of spare time. The main problem for this person right now is that she has to spend 3 hours commuting to her job every day, and suddenly it isn't 8 hours work, 8 hours sleep, and 8 hours spare time any longer.
 
I used to work with this guy who was pretty much the definition of that shit. The shift at that place was supposed to be 8-4:30 with possible overtime if all the jobs weren't finished. That dude worked 8-6 Monday to Saturday every week all because he hated going home to his wife and kid. He was pretty much in love with the receptionist and would get all flirty and shit with her all the time but if his wife called or the few times his wife and kid showed up at work he'd get so miserable. It's not like she was unattractive or anything and the few times I met her she seemed nice. But he just did not want to go home he fucking hated it.
If he isn't lying the times you met her, she was in her public face persona that is all nice to other people. But at home and with the mask off she's probably bitch incarnate to him and others who can not hurt her public standing if they snitch on her. As much as Americans want to deny it, we also have a "face" culture like that of the Far East Asians.
 
if anything the switch needs to be longer hours and a permanent switch to hourly pay from salary. tasks need a hard deadline, and a vitality curve to fire everyone who cant hack it.
That's a good way to drive out any skilled veterans.
I certainly won't take a massive paycut because i'm vastly more efficient than your description, and can get things done in 1/4 the average time.
 
That's a good way to drive out any skilled veterans.
I certainly won't take a massive paycut because i'm vastly more efficient than your description, and can get things done in 1/4 the average time.
if everyones doing the samething, where are you going to go? you could spend the extra time training your replacements.
 
if everyones doing the samething, where are you going to go? you could spend the extra time training your replacements.
I've been considering picking up a wrench or hammer.
Piece-work can be billed up to $1200 a day, and the level of incompetence zoomers have with basic handiman work guarantees they will pay it.
Capital cost: Your daily driver traded in for a pickup truck, and about $1200 in tools.
 
And another thread where eternally butthurt millennials cry about how supposedly boomers made bank with no work, didnt have to commute, didnt pay off their mortgages into old age and of course they all had le trad wife at home doing the chores lmao
You can say a lot about boomers but not that they had it easy or didnt work hard, milleiturds and zoomies have nothing on that.

. this kid lacks skills, and she knows it.
I have been checking out GPT 4.0 and its not looking too good for 9-5 office wagies, especially zoomers who cant get the job done anyway.
 
I have been checking out GPT 4.0 and its not looking too good for 9-5 office wagies, especially zoomers who cant get the job done anyway.
Ever seen Tucker Carlson vs. Charlie Kirk?
Tucker contends that if the pace of change is not managed, and the dignity of the citizens is not the main goal of policy, the people will rise up and burn it all down.



Following this debate, Kirk became much more populist in his outlook.
 
I've been considering picking up a wrench or hammer.
Piece-work can be billed up to $1200 a day, and the level of incompetence zoomers have with basic handiman work guarantees they will pay it.
Capital cost: Your daily driver traded in for a pickup truck, and about $1200 in tools.
if zoomers wont pay, their landlords will.
 
If no one listens to them how do they have all the power
Elderly voting blocs defend social security and medicaid that they didn't earn, don't deserve and which is unsustainable. We have to cut the parasites off before the host is killed. As soon as the elderly are outvoted we're ending their benefits and instituting mandatory euthanasia. They can bootstrap themselves out of the grave since it works so well.
You're the one not listened to. What you do and don't tolerate doesn't matter.
Likewise.
You hope that death will hand you some power by default, eventually. Got some bad news for you...
I think he just hopes like me that elderly arrogant advice dispensers meet their end soon, but slowly and painfully.
 
Elderly voting blocs defend social security and medicaid that they didn't earn, don't deserve and which is unsustainable. We have to cut the parasites off before the host is killed. As soon as the elderly are outvoted we're ending their benefits and instituting mandatory euthanasia. They can bootstrap themselves out of the grave since it works so well.
Good luck with that
Likewise.
Oh no
I think he just hopes like me that elderly arrogant advice dispensers meet their end soon, but slowly and painfully.
I foresee no problems in your finding satisfaction once the old farts die
 
Tucker contends that if the pace of change is not managed, and the dignity of the citizens is not the main goal of policy, the people will rise up and burn it all down.
lmao schoools are molesting/"transitioning" peoples kids and people just let it happen, people are being flooded with niggers in their own hometowns where they grew up and they let it happen, the dog will be kicked until it whimpers away, there wont be an uprising just a slow, pathetic death.
Elderly voting blocs defend social security and medicaid that they didn't earn, don't deserve and which is unsustainable. We have to cut the parasites off before the host is killed. As soon as the elderly are outvoted we're ending their benefits and instituting mandatory euthanasia. They can bootstrap themselves out of the grave since it works so well.
Zoomers and millenials vote for state enforced homosexuality, twans whites and an unrestricted spic-nig cycle. Boomers are globally saving the day in elections, once they are gone is when the party is really gonna start.
 
Zoomers and millenials vote for state enforced homosexuality, twans whites and an unrestricted spic-nig cycle. Boomers are globally saving the day in elections, once they are gone is when the party is really gonna start.
Boomers violated Nuremberg and voted for covid lockdowns and jab mandates. They're not saving anyone or anything. It's good when the elderly die.
Good luck with that
Don't really need to do much. Once enough die, they're outvoted. Those who remain are without benefits and become just another gibbering homeless.
 
I found this other article: https://archive.ph/AzJcr
Apparently this is the only job she could get, and she's staying with a friend to save money. Can't blame her for being desperate.
Was she desperate for work or desperate for NYC? From the article:
In October, she started her first job since graduation, in the field of marketing, after a five-month search and a plethora of unanswered applications.

“It took me until October to hear back considering the job market is so competitive right now,” Asero says. “My student debt would make me feel guilty for not using my degree right out of college. I knew the schedule would be tough for me to get used to since most of my college was online due to Covid, but once I was offered this job I took it to get my foot in the door and gain experience.”

The 21-year-old graduated from the University of South Carolina in May 2023, a year earlier than the rest of her class, in an effort to cut down the cost of tuition. She was overjoyed to finally have a job, but taking it meant moving away from her friends and family in South Carolina to New Jersey. She’s staying with a family friend to save money on rent but commutes almost two hours daily into Manhattan, which she feels leaves little time to meet new people or make friendships in a brand new place.
Getting some "high status" marketing slot in a "glamorous" major metro area is competitive. Trying to find some company willing to take a gamble on a green person who has intangible production is competitive too. I know for a fact it's a seller's market if you're willing to grind out merchandising/marketing in a city like Charleston, Savannah, or Atlanta. It's even easier to find something if you're not looking in major cities only. Pay won't be as high but you generally end up netting more with the lower cost of living. However, you're going to be expected to pound some ground, "shake the trees," and do some actual work. You'll have to get your hands dirty instead of going from desk to break room to meetings.

It also makes me question her qualifications if she doesn't understand how to market herself. The entire premise is to put your "product" out there and not to rely on the customers coming to you. Unless and until you hear a definitive "no" you shouldn't be waiting on contact. This may not work for cushy jobs at mega-corporations but it will get you in the door on a lot of smaller/local things. Even then it works on smaller/local parts of said mega-corporations. "I'm working retail where I do X, Y, and Z to optimally market our displays" or "I'm helping [smaller, local company] increase their online footprint with appealing and marketable listings" sounds way better than "I'm waiting to hear back about my applications." Hell, flipping shit online you locally acquire is 90% marketing and shows you're a self-starter. If you're not "hungry" and cannot describe almost any job in terms that show you're using your marketing knowledge, what good could you be in convincing customers to spend real money? Nobody is expecting fresh graduates to change the market but they're all expecting more than doing nothing.
Technology has massively multiplied the labour output of an individual. Mass production has led to a massive decrease in scarcity. The rise of non-manual labour jobs has led to far greater ability to work into old age. We SHOULD be able to scale back our working hours in favour of more leisure and social life. But you have to accept that none of this is compatible with unrestricted immigration because an easy and cheap importable labour pool and competition for resources, prevents cutting back. Unless you reduce your immigrants to some kind of 2nd Class slave labour pool like Saudi Arabia does. Even then, that is untenable as well as cruel.
True but even with the massive benefit of technology she saw fit to output nothing for almost half a year. Nobody wants an employee that they'll need to assign other (higher paid) employees to babysit to make sure the job is getting done. If you don't know the goals and cannot take any initiative, what good are you? Was there really nothing in 700 miles/5 months for her to do?

I'd bet she's in a group of "churn & burn" new hires where demands are high, compensation is low, and they count on attrition to weed out the weak. They can gamble on the desperation because they expect most not to meet the goals in the first place. Even getting halfway there is a net benefit if they're paying a quarter of the wages. Who cares if she burns out if there's a fresh crop to replace her next year? She's like the incels who do nothing to put themselves out there and moan about the lack of interested women. You do nothing to make yourself attractive, complain about it, and the only interest you get is from the bottom-of-the-barrel? This should be unsurprising to anyone with a brain.
 
mao schoools are molesting/"transitioning" peoples kids and people just let it happen, people are being flooded with niggers in their own hometowns where they grew up and they let it happen, the dog will be kicked until it whimpers away, there wont be an uprising just a slow, pathetic death.
The niggers were the first victims of this shitty policy.
Tell me, how well is the government doing in keeping them in line?
As this shitty policy encroaches upon the job security and earning capacities of white people, do you expect them to behave with any less hostility to the concept of governmental authority?
Have you paid attention to the impact of pandemic policy on white normies?
 
She’s an example of someone who does what society tells her to do and is unhappy with the results. So now that she knows the rat race is shit, it’s now up to her to decide where to go from here. That’s what being an adult is about. She’s a woman so she has the ultimate backup plan of being a stay at home wife and mother.

It’s easy to laugh at yet another zoomer chick who feels she was she was going to make lots of money doing as little work as possible while riding on as many cocks as possible but after watching the video I feel she’s the type that does just want to have a family so I’m a lot more sympathetic here.

I have some sympathy for her because young people don't know anything. They know nothing. Everyone we've put in charge of teaching young people instructs them that the most important thing in life is your career, that marriage is stupid and weird, that women who have babies are failures at life, that living from one hookup to the next is healthy, etc.

Adulthood gets pushed back further and further. College is an increasingly childish, self-indulgent experience. And yet, our bodies age at the same rate they always did. Our brains are still what they were when our ancestors were discovering fire. We still have finite lifespans and reproduce sexually. And, moreover, the Earth does not give forth her bounty if nobody works. Adulthood happens, like it or not, and then these kids are hurtled headlong into the brutal discovery that you can't stay 17 forever, and they really have no idea how to cope.

It also makes me question her qualifications if she doesn't understand how to market herself.

Why should a woman have to market herself? What's the endgame here? That when she dies alone, the cats who eat her face are all $10,000 purebreds?
 
Why should a woman have to market herself? What's the endgame here? That when she dies alone, the cats who eat her face are all $10,000 purebreds?
Pozzed response: assuming she wants to earn like the men while being skrong & independent, she'll need to learn to be ambitious like them too.

Trad response: you want to lock down a solid husband. If you want the yoked husband that welds, makes things like fancy wood carvings, or whatever else, being able to actually sell that shit for him is very attractive. If you know how marketing works you can be a more discerning customer when you spend his wages to buy things for the home. You'll know how to put the best foot forward when it comes to getting the babies into the right preschool or how to entertain and impress important guests.
 
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